October 22, 2004
A NEW BEGINNING
Remember Richard Neville’s pre-election fish poem?
Dancing in the street, everyone’s singing
Birds are chirping, the fish are grinning,
Buds are blooming, our heads are spinning
The end of Howard … is a new beginning
Well, the end of Howard didn’t happen, but those fish are happy anyway, as Richard explains:
As the world heats up, the one hundred million people who live at the waters edge will want to know why the world’s biggest polluter turns its back on Kyoto. US efforts to control the future of oil has upped prices, already forcing fishermen in Asia to hang up their nets, sell their boats and … then what?
Richard is too stupid to realise it, but current high oil prices are having exactly the effect he and all other Kyoto fantasists wish for. Why isn’t he applauding this halt to Asian sea-plundering? The fish, Richard! They are grinning!
(Via Tex)
Posted by Tim Blair at October 22, 2004 04:53 PMI just had a look at his site. What a frigging idiot...does he have a booze/drug problem, or is he just seriously mentally impaired?
Oh, I get it: He's just another leftist off with the fairies...
Posted by: JPB at October 22, 2004 at 05:02 PM"Why isn’t he applauding this halt to Asian sea-plundering?"
Because he's a fucking idiot.
Posted by: Keith at October 22, 2004 at 05:09 PMMy idea is to start an inter-generational war in Ausrtalia where Generation X starts attacking the Baby Boomers. Most do not know that Gen X is marginally higher in number than the Baby Boomers. I highlight Richard Neville as a person emblematic of the problem I speak of:
Posted by: Harry Heidelberg at October 22, 2004 at 05:14 PMVoices in his head, everyone’s singing
‘The Liberals won!’, the bells … the bells …. are ringing,
Mouth is drooling, pinhead is spinning
The end of Neville … to the asylum, wheels spinning.
Bugger. Pinhead is GRINNING.
(But of course - sniff - ALL the greats rhyme the 3rd and 4th line with the same word, word...)
Posted by: Sweet sweet Bundy at October 22, 2004 at 05:20 PMJeepers, what will Neville and his pals make of the recent news that Denmark wants to claim oil and gas mining rights on the North Pole seabed, as these become accessible due to the retreat of the polar ice shelf? As a greenie nightmare, this is so extreme as to approach parody.
Posted by: cuckoo at October 22, 2004 at 05:25 PMthe fish are grinning
Hmm..how exactly does a fish grin? As far as I know, they don't have the facial muscles to accomplish such a feat.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 22, 2004 at 05:54 PM...and wait, he goes from wanting fish to "grin" to being upset that they are no longer being hooked and eaten by Asian fishermen?
Or is their impending death supposed to be whats making them grin?
I'm so confused...
Posted by: Quentin George at October 22, 2004 at 05:56 PMI really don't understand how stopping cows from farting could make that much of a difference to 'global warming'. It's been happening for millions of years without humans being blamed for it (but we should take care to pollute as little as possible).
Though I reckon if you could get all the cows to fart at once on one side of the world it might knock the world off it's axis....
or something.
Posted by: Kae at October 22, 2004 at 06:07 PMHmm..how exactly does a fish grin?
-Anyone who has seen the little mermaid knows fish not only grin but sing and dance in elaborately choreographed dance routines.
I want to know how the fish find out who won the election.
perhaps Richard Neville should go live Under The Sea...There'll be no accusations, just friendly crustaceans under the sea.
Posted by: robw25 at October 22, 2004 at 06:13 PMTim
You ARE being charitable. he is both stupid and a delusional self-absorbed fantasist. Stupid sod does not even realise that the ESA NO2 surveys show that the bulk of heavy industrial pollution is now generated by China.
Guess what country is unaffected by Kyoto?
MarkL
Canberra
You beat me...also India. Third world carbon doesn't count, especially if you're the original sandalled Dicky.
Posted by: TT at October 22, 2004 at 06:51 PM
I believe John Kerry was at one time among a number of US politicians that favored a higher federal tax on gasoline.
Now of course, it's all Bush's fault that the price of gasoline is up.
And robw25, living under the sea is your solution to everything! Well, it's not going to happen!
Posted by: JDB at October 22, 2004 at 06:57 PMI for one, would be delighted to see Richard Neville and his fellow hippies sleeping with the fishes. In fact I can't wait.
Posted by: Clem Snide at October 22, 2004 at 07:36 PMlike kyoto itself they care more about the opposition ans slowing the growth of the USA (or inequity as they see it) than the environment.
Posted by: Scottie at October 22, 2004 at 08:20 PM[Drooling idiocy deleted by the Management.]
Posted by: Elvis Bungee at October 22, 2004 at 08:44 PM[Drooling idiocy deleted by the Management.]
Posted by: Drooling idiot at October 22, 2004 at 08:45 PM[Drooling idiocy deleted by the Management.]
Posted by: White House squatters at October 22, 2004 at 08:47 PMLooks like Andrea is going to have some deleting and banning to do when she gets up!
Posted by: debbie at October 22, 2004 at 08:55 PMWell, that took care of that. By the way, it was all the same person, and his or her IP address (70.56.122.57) resolved to Tucson, Arizona. Someone's been getting a bit too much sun, I guess.
Posted by: Andrea Harris at October 22, 2004 at 09:44 PMRichard Neville and other smelly hippies:
Why don't you all fade away?
Don't try and dig what we all say
The things you do look awful cold
Hope you die before I get old.
How appropriate that a post on Dick Neville attracts moonbats like flies to a piece of shit.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 22, 2004 at 10:42 PMHang on . ... who's buying the boats then? Other fishermen??
Posted by: Graeme at October 22, 2004 at 11:56 PM"...and his or her IP address (70.56.122.57) resolved to Tucson, Arizona."
Oh, Crap, another U of A professor. You can tell by the Kucinich stickers and idiotarian slogans on their cars. (The students ride bikes, of course.)
Oh, well, there are about 10,000 of us here who make things that go "Boom!" It's fun to watch the hippies' reaction when you tell them that.
When are the members of the Church of Environmentalism going to apologize for their misguided, junk science founded Eco-Imperialist War they have been waging upon the world these past thirty years?
And, will they apologize for the enormous death and distruction which has resulted on behalf of their Eco-Imperialist War?
Posted by: syn at October 23, 2004 at 12:08 AMJohn Howard is to blame for high oil prices.
If he hadn't urged GWB to invade Iraq, the price of oil would still be about $22 a barrel.
Posted by: Just Peace at October 23, 2004 at 12:31 AMMmmm ... mmmm 'Just Peace' - John Howard eh?....
Your ideas are intriguing and I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Posted by: Sweet sweet Bundy at October 23, 2004 at 01:15 AMJust Peace:
You're right! Why, if Howard hadn't hoodwinked Dubya, then China would not have industrialized, creating a demand for cars and power that has resulted in a massive jump in energy demand for 1.2 billion people.
And, if not for Howard, Japan's economy, moribund for most of the past two decades, wouldn't also be slowly improving, resulting in, you guessed it, higher energy demand!
Sheesh, and if not for Howard's efforts, India's economy, too, wouldn't be improving resulting in increasing energy demand for a population that has probably now topped a billion as well.
Oh, Mr. Howard, you have a lot to answer for!
Posted by: Lurking Observer at October 23, 2004 at 01:21 AM"Dancing in the street, everyone’s singing
Birds are chirping, the fish are grinning,
Buds are blooming, our heads are spinning
The end of Howard … is a new beginning"
"When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child. Now that I have become a man, I have put away childish things."
When I was a child, I was a socialist. Now that I have become a man, I have put away childish things.
Grinning fucking fish!!!!
Time to decide, people. Do you want our society to continue to survive or do you want to join the fucking grinning fish
Posted by: jlchydro at October 23, 2004 at 01:42 AMWell, I'd like to know why China and India, the world's biggest pollutors also aren't in Kyoto.
Posted by: Sandy P at October 23, 2004 at 02:28 AMJohn Howard is to blame for high oil prices. If he hadn't urged GWB to invade Iraq, the price of oil would still be about $22 a barrel.
And, of course, many thousands of Iraqis who are currently alive would now be dead, slaughtered by Saddam Hussein's goons. Which would be perfectly all right with you, I suppose, as long as oil prices were low.
So your argument is basically "Hell, yes, blood for oil! As much blood as necessary -- just not my blood!"
Posted by: Harry at October 23, 2004 at 02:41 AMNot only that, but it's the Asians who are driving up the damn price!
Posted by: Darwin Finch at October 23, 2004 at 04:05 AMDear Just for Peace:
Have you ever heard of supply and demand. Production of oil around the world is at all time highs. The high price of oil is in part because of the great expansion in the Chinese economy. When you have a limited supply and increasing demand the price goes up.
Why do you think that peace loving countries like Russia and France had illegal oil exploration contracts signed with Sadaam. Why do think Russia, France and China have exploration contracts with the peaceloving Arab Sudanese government whose only desire is to be left alone to settle their own internal problems (government sponsored genocide) with their black Christian population.
I feel sorry for closed minded people such as you.
Posted by: davod at October 23, 2004 at 04:15 AMNeville's a lousy poet. For that first line to rhyme with the rest, it should have ended "everybody's SINNING." That might have made for a more interesting poem.
Posted by: BarCodeKing at October 23, 2004 at 05:31 AMSo now its John Howard who is the sinister influence behind GWB?
Hmm, wait, add Rupert Murdoch to that list...suddenly its not a cabal of Zionists, but a cabal of sinister Aussies....
Posted by: Quentin George at October 23, 2004 at 09:21 AMTim you are part of the dying breed, the old conservative dinosaurs who don't change when the times do.
To put childish teenage-level comments under pictures of people who want to say they are sorry for what is going on in Iraq is just disgusting. Sorry, you know only what FOX has told you, and very little of what is going on in the world. Time to grow up, change, or die out like the T-Rex.
Yeah Tim is a dying breed, which is why John Howard won the election handily, a ridiculous stunt by the "Guardian" is laughed off the face of the planet, and GWB is well on his way to 4 more years.
We old dinosaurs are'nt extinct yet, not by a long shot.
Posted by: debbie at October 23, 2004 at 09:59 AMHey, everybody! I've got a fishy poem!
Fish heads fish heads
Roly poly fish heads
Fish heads fish heads
Eat them up
Yum
In the morning grinning happy fish heads
In the evening floating in the soup
Ask a fish head about Richard Neville
They won't answer because they're not dumb
I took a fish head to a Michael Moore movie
Didn't have to pay to get it in
They can't protest the war they don't wear burkas
They're not good marchers they don't sing duets with Barbra Streisand
Roly poly fish heads are never seen
jetting around the world to warn about greenhouse gasses.
Yeah.
The constipated Falwell religious Right has its mirror in the dingbat, "let's go inside, they're just showers", Disneyland religious Left.
The soft and squishy are otherwise inoffensive, so why do they instinctively want to deliver us to evil?
It's The Day the Fish Came Out! And nobody took that movie seriously, the fools...
Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 23, 2004 at 10:44 AMAsk the KUWAITIS if we did the right thing in Iraq.
****Funny also, the left should be happy with the higher gas and oil prices. They were always saying that we did not pay near enough to the real cost. Now with higher prices they are not happy. They are TRULY transparent.
Posted by: Jim at October 23, 2004 at 11:01 AMThat Arial from the Little Mermaid is Hot! I would put a grin on that fish.
Posted by: Dog at October 23, 2004 at 11:52 AMAh! I wondered when someone was going to bring up the "Fish Heads" song. I may even have the video on tape somewhere...
Posted by: Andrea Harris at October 23, 2004 at 12:16 PMGary and the Samoyeds:
Q. What's the difference between civil engineers and mechanical engineers?
A. Civil engineers build really big things. Mechanical engineers blow up really big things built by civil engineers.
Posted by: JorgXMcKie at October 23, 2004 at 12:16 PMYou just don't get it, do you...
John Howard organised 9/11 ... what do you think he was doing in Washington that day.
John Howard is the evil mastermind of the war on terrorism™.
Thats right sports fans - Jedi John was behind it all - ofcourse the UN was on to him the whole time, but alas, when the weapons inspectors arrived he just waved his hand and said "These are not the warheads you're looking for"
Posted by: robw25 at October 23, 2004 at 01:00 PMWasn't Lleyton Hewitt in Washington the same day? The plot thickens!
Posted by: Quentin George at October 23, 2004 at 01:10 PMNo, you don't understand, John Howard used the top secret globalhawk technology that was developed by Australian scientists, to take remote control of the airliners that were used to flatten the World Trade Center and punch a hole in the Pentagon. There weren't any hijakers at all, that was a false trail, cleverly devised by ASIS and DSO to fool the FBI.
Posted by: Just Peace at October 23, 2004 at 01:45 PMSandy P
Well, I'd like to know why China and India, the world's biggest pollutors also aren't in Kyoto.So did US Senate Republicans, which is why they told the Kyoto delegates to fuck off. Posted by: Spiny Norman at October 23, 2004 at 03:25 PM
I don't understand a single word of what you are talking about.
Please help me to see clearly. (No, I am not that young, LOL)
Someone says something. Richard Neville. Never heard of him.
He says something. He sings a song and explains something.
And our dear Tim Blair (never heard of him either LOL) answers by saying he is too stupid to realize something.
Kyoto?
The treaty, drafted in 1997 at a U.N. conference in Kyoto, Japan, seeks to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide and other gases that are widely seen as a key factor behind global warming.
Under the pact, industrialized countries are supposed to cut their collective emissions of six key gases to 5.2 percent below the 1990 level by 2012.
(copied and pasted from somewhere I forgot. sorry.)
There is so much to say about it, but, it's saturday, and I want to go hiking, so...
Obviously, it concerns 'industrialized' countries. Are China and India 'industrialized' countries ? I mean, rich like America, some European countries and of course Australia (by respect for Tim) ?
Have they been invited in 1997, when they were only producers of cheap goods to help rich people from rich countries maintain their high and top quality life styles ? (This is a sincere question... I don't know the answer.)
This is the main argument from the USA not to join the treaty. Ok, so I continue.
The goal of this treaty is to cut collective emissions of six key gases (because the others are not killing enough people?) to 5.2 percent below the 1990 level.
Once again, I don't have the information and no time to search for it, but I am ready to bet that China and India can not reach this goal by 2012, 2022 and even 2032 !
Why?
Because there is so much to produce for their own people (in order to reach a level close or even higher than the new 'poor' level of rich people) and for rich people from rich countries (in order to let us keep a high and top quality life style.)
Ouch.
Conclusion 1. Who really cares about oil and other natural ressources? fish and plants? about meat and animals? about water and oceans? about our future? The human being (me included) is coming... and keep smiling, because we already live in a rich country.
Conclusion 2. Some rich countries are willing to spend millions of dollars, political tricks and soldiers to tame evil countries, but once freed, they have to grow up in a clean way, and not to emit any pollution that could bother our temperate climates and our children's lives, something we (our ancestors) have not been able to do by ourselves (ex. The infamous 'London Fog'). Gee, something missing.
Conclusion 3. Everyone -sane- admits there is one and only one Earth, and we have to live together. Am I still sane if I state that, if everyone on Earth reaches the 'poor' level of our rich countries, the Earth goes hot or cold, up or down, shake shake shake or just >boom
Once again, please apologize my poor English and help me find where I turn bad. My last post.
Posted by: Oliver at October 23, 2004 at 05:33 PM
Oliver: "Once again, please apologize my poor English and help me find where I turn bad. My last post."
Oliver, you "turn bad" on numerous illogical precepts.
(1) Carbon dioxide presently is about 350 ppm (parts per million) of the atmosphere. That is 0.035%. However, carbon dioxide does not keep building up, rather it is absorbed by chlorophyll utilising life-forms, such as trees, flowers and the such-like, as well as the oceans.
(2) The energy issue of the left, for the last 40 or more years, is the "injustice" of the US having less than 5% of the world's population, and using on average 25% of the world's energy. Oliver, you will recall these statistics being hammered into your head early in your indoctrination.
(3) The trouble was that all this did was generate a big yawn. Of course the US is going to use more energy - as a First World nation, why not? It would not be First World if it went back to the average, would it?
(4) You would have noticed, Oliver, that the "global warming" argument has morphed into a "climate change" argument over the last couple of years. An historical perspective may assist us here. Up until about 1975-1980, the consensus amongst the environmental fear-mongers was that a new Ice Age was about to descend upon us - remember the albedo effect, the calculation of the New Ice Age being able to bury the Sears Tower in Chicago? This did not occur, and as a result of the political imperative of the proponents of global devastation because of the evil USA, they had to change tack, and "global warming" was born. Here, the EnviroNazis could support their agenda of destroying the USA by junk science, and this sowed the seeds of Kyoto in 1997.
(5) You will note that all of the "climate change" proponents are scientists/activists on the public payroll. This is a classic example of the "Peter Principle" at work - all of these publically funded scientists have no reason at all to debunk the "global warming" theory, purely from self-interest. They would be out of a job.
(6) No-one, despite all the "Hockey Stick" theories and the recent Hawaiian atmospheric measurements (For Christ's sake, how can any valid measurements of atmospheric CO2 be derived from the Ring of Fire, with volcanoes spewing out tonnes of sulphurous carbon dioxide gases???)no-one can prove with any degree of scientific certainty and empirical evidence that we are facing a Day After Tomorrow crisis.
(7) Oliver, for your own edification, I suggest that you research the seven "greenhouse" gases, and establish for yourself which is the most prevalant. Even supposing that the "greenhouse" theory is true, you will find that the predominant "greenhouse" gas is good old H20 - water vapour, or "clouds" to those in FairyLand.
What do you and your ilk propose to do about this??
OK, I've vented my spleen. This is Spleenville, after all.
According to this article, the "hockey stick" scenario might actually be wrong due to a mistaken mathematical formulation. Oopsie.
Anyway, to Oliver's question on the "industrial" status of China and India; he sounds like he still thinks of those nations as bucolic agrarian communities where people tend the crops with primitive wood-and-stone implements and spend the rest of their time engaging in colorful folk dances.
Posted by: Andrea Harris at October 24, 2004 at 12:11 AM>Sorry, you know only what FOX
>has told you
A lefty spoke the "you watch FOX" line!
Everybody drink a shot!
Posted by: Dave S. at October 24, 2004 at 03:16 AM