November 03, 2004

ZOGBY CALLS IT FOR ...

Zogby's final election prediction: Kerry beats Bush 311 to 213 ... and Bush wins the popular vote. Whoa! How would Margo Kingston ("how bad is it that Bush could win the White House but lose the popular vote?") and Phillip Adams ("the candidate who'd lost the popular vote got the glittering prize") cope?

Meanwhile, a Sydney Morning Herald online poll has Kerry in front 64%-35% (a News Ltd poll has Kerry leading 61%-34%).

Australian readers without cable TV: Nine is now presenting CBS coverage (featuring Dan "Microsoft Word" Rather) and Seven has NBC. The ABC is showing a documentary about enzymes.

UPDATE. British gamblers are plunging for Kerry:

During yesterday afternoon British time, Senator Kerry was even money to be voted president, slightly worse odds than the 8-11 on offer for the re-election of President George W Bush.

However, a flurry of bets meant Senator Kerry's odds were slashed to 1-3 a few hours later, with Mr Bush pushed out to 9-4.

"If money talks, Kerry wins," Warren Lush, a spokesman for Ladbrokes, one of Britain's biggest chains of betting shops, said.

"We have taken a huge amount of money on the Democrats in recent hours."

Posted by Tim Blair at November 3, 2004 10:08 AM
Comments

First figures coming through on the election site at CNN.com: Bush on 34 EV to Kerry's 3 - 57%:42%.

Yeah, I know it's the "safe" states, but anyway...

Shit, how is one supposed to work when this is happening out there...?

C'mon America!

Posted by: JPB at November 3, 2004 at 10:34 AM

some of us Australians are in offices without televisions at the moment - there's always ABC Newsradio over the web, but can anybody recommend a good website for following the count?

I expect Bush to win because I just can't see the US electorate, especially the South and the middle parts, going for a North-Eastern Brahmin Democrat. It's a simple theory but I've put a lot of faith in it. Interesting to see what happens.

Posted by: Ben P at November 3, 2004 at 10:35 AM

First figures coming through on the election site at CNN.com: Bush on 34 EV to Kerry's 3 - 57%:42%.

Yeah, I know it's the "safe" states, but anyway...

Shit, how is one supposed to work when this is happening out there...?

C'mon America!

Posted by: JPB at November 3, 2004 at 10:36 AM

cspan.org has an election map that is active. I don't know how timely the data is but I expect they will be current but not reaching.

Posted by: John at November 3, 2004 at 10:38 AM

Sorry about the double post...the security measure seemingly bounced me off first.

I guess it didn't happen after all.

Posted by: JPB at November 3, 2004 at 10:39 AM

ta John - I also noticed JBP's mention of CNN. common sense really

Posted by: Ben P at November 3, 2004 at 10:43 AM

Sorry Tim B, but like all Italians I must swap horses at least once in every tight race. Last night, I let the Mother of All Flip-Flops Begin.

Posted by: Jack Strocchi at November 3, 2004 at 10:52 AM

That dickhead Kerry, I feel, is going to lose. Though Bush may not be perfect, if he carries the south and wins Ohio along with Pennsylvania, he should be alright.

Posted by: Emily at November 3, 2004 at 10:56 AM

My recommendation is to listen to Hugh Hewitt at www.krla870.com. His regular radio show is on for another hour, and then he's going to be on the rest of the night talking about the election.

Posted by: Polly at November 3, 2004 at 10:57 AM

For all of our Australian friends and good -- and relatively quick loading -- electoral map can be found at C-SPAN

Posted by: Andrew at November 3, 2004 at 10:59 AM

Tradesports.com is going mad. Should I have a dabble? Bush vote %age is up in the states that called!?!

Posted by: Rob Read at November 3, 2004 at 11:01 AM

Tradesports were commenting a couple of weeks back about one punter out of NY who was backing kerry to the hilt........ any guesses ??

Posted by: Shaun Bourke at November 3, 2004 at 11:07 AM

Dear Emily I concur as to the nature of Senator Kerry's head. May I suggest that the word wanker might be worked into the description?

Hugh Hewitt has appeared to be the voice of reason early on.

Posted by: John at November 3, 2004 at 11:11 AM

YO! PEOPLE! Realclearpolitics.com has live! results from both Florida and Ohio! This is from their state election boards. Don't worry about the betting sights, the futures markets are not affected. If anyone likes, I will post as to how to get onto the "real" market info.

Posted by: YoJimbo at November 3, 2004 at 11:14 AM

55:44 in favour of Bush in FLA with 18% of the vote counted!

Could that be true?

If so, it'll be ta-ta's to Kerry very very soon...

Posted by: JPB at November 3, 2004 at 11:16 AM

Live means realtime! Sorry if I confused. You want the CME Globex markets etc. That is where real and unbiased money if flowing throughout the world.

Posted by: YoJimbo at November 3, 2004 at 11:17 AM

Bush is up by 7 points and over 300k in the popular vote in Florida with 31% of the precincts reporting. Looking good so far.

Posted by: Randal Robinson at November 3, 2004 at 11:48 AM

'Kerry beats Bush 311 to 213 ... and Bush wins the popular vote.'

That's possible but very unlikely. Their figures on Ohio and Florida suggest a Bush win in at least Ohio yet they give both to Kerry.

I spot bias.

Posted by: Ral at November 3, 2004 at 11:50 AM

With 11% of the vote tallied nationwide, Bush has an 11 point lead (55-44). And mostly from Eastern states.

With 41% of the Florida vote in Bush has a 5 point lead (52-47).

With only 6% of the Ohio vote in, Bush has a 13 point lead (53-46).

This doesn't even look close.

Remember, If Bush takes Florida AND Ohio, game over man!

Posted by: Robert Blair at November 3, 2004 at 12:14 PM

Robert Blair says:

With only 6% of the Ohio vote in, Bush has a 13 point lead (53-46).

Robert, I can certainly understand your excitement - but 53 minus 46 is only 7, not 13!

Still, it's looking good! Especially in FLA - good running commentary on that on Jay Cost's blog.

Posted by: JPB at November 3, 2004 at 12:19 PM

Here's an election map. Just refresh every quarter hour or so:

http://news.yahoo.com/electionresults

Also, NationalReviewOnline is liveblogging:

http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/

Posted by: Rebecca at November 3, 2004 at 12:21 PM

Hang in there mates, we still have a long way to go but it's looking good so far!

Posted by: DanNY at November 3, 2004 at 12:28 PM

The S & P 500 futures are UP in US and Asia trading. The dollar is UP in Asia. The Asian markets are UP. Tokyo closed.

Posted by: YoJimbo at November 3, 2004 at 12:44 PM

Florida with 50%. Bush 51.8. Kerry 47.3 Ohio with 14.28%. Bush 52.35. Kerry 47.16.

Posted by: YoJimbo at November 3, 2004 at 12:48 PM

Gee, those exit polls were certainly bogus, weren't they?

Was it a poll of university students, or something?

Posted by: Quentin George at November 3, 2004 at 12:54 PM

Bush up 57-42 with 10% counted in my currently adopted home state of Wisconsin...toss-up state my ass. (Yay!)

Posted by: PW at November 3, 2004 at 01:09 PM

Anyone brave enough to call it for Bush yet? ;-)

I reckon it would take more that an intervention by the French Foreign Legion now to swing it Monsieur Kerrrrrie's way...

The trends are unmistakable - just look at the prevaling swings in FL and OH.

I'd be almost pulling that South Australian champagne out of the fridge now, if I weren't at work at the moment...so it'll have to wait till tonight!

Posted by: JPB at November 3, 2004 at 01:20 PM

I was calling FL for W as of three hours ago (hell, three weeks ago). Nice of the networks to wait til they were really REALLY sure this time before calling it for JFKerry.

I am disappointed that W didn't win in the Iowa / Minnesota / Wisconsin region. I'd thought he wuz robbed in Wisconsin last time and could pull it out in all three this time. I especially didn't want it to "come down to Ohio" given how gawdawful the Republican leadership is over there.

Posted by: David Ross at November 3, 2004 at 03:12 PM

Suckers

Posted by: Le clerc at November 3, 2004 at 06:10 PM

Poor Margo, she was unhappy before the Australian election, extremely unhappy after it so HOW DOES SHE FEEL NOW? Perhaps she can cry on Philip's shoulder or perhaps they can both head off to Cuba where I'm sure they'll be appreciated.

Posted by: Anthony at November 3, 2004 at 08:30 PM