Tim Blair

I am a member of the SwiftBoatVets and POWs for Truth Forum in the USA. We have been working on diverting these addresses that The Guardian has been attempting to spam from Ohio. I want to say a big THANK YOU to all of you for your efforts as well. We have also managed to bring this to the attention of FOX News. Last night this was what one of their reporters, John Gibson, had to say on the subject.

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Rule Britannia?

Thursday, October 14, 2004

By John Gibson

Wednesday, I told you about the campaign by The Guardian newspaper in Great Britain to influence voters in the U.S. election.

The Guardian is encouraging readers to write to individual voters in Cook County, Ohio. On Thursday, it published three letters written to voters by prominent Britons.

First, spy novelist John Le Carré, whose real name is David Cornwell. In his letter to an Ohio voter he says:

"Probably no American president in all history has been so universally hated abroad as George W Bush: for his bullying unilateralism, his dismissal of international treaties, his reckless indifference to the aspirations of other nations and cultures, his contempt for institutions of world government, and above all for misusing the cause of anti-terrorism in order to unleash an illegal war."

The Ohio voter might remember that the sacred international treaties includes the one in which European judges wanted to put American soldiers on trial for war crimes.

Then there's this excerpt from Lady Antonia Fraser, prominent historian, lesser Royal and wife of prominent anti-American playwright Harold Pinter:

"If you back Kerry, you will be voting against a savage militaristic foreign policy of pre-emptive killing which has stained the great name of the U.S. so hideously in recent times."

And this from Richard Dawkins, a professor at Oxford:

"Don't be so ashamed of your president: the majority of you didn't vote for him. If Bush is finally elected properly, that will be the time for Americans traveling abroad to simulate a Canadian accent."

You simulate a Canadian accent by asking for beer a lot and ending ever sentence with "Eh?"

Now, it's one thing to have smarmy Brits looking down their nose at you on the BBC and in the newspapers — we can always try to ignore the condescending attitude. But writing to individual U.S. voters and telling them how hideously they have behaved; that Americans better start learning Canadian; that this war we fought in our own defense was illegal, and that we are lawless rogues terrifying the planet?

The message is, "Be sure to mind your betters."

I want to see those Cook County, Ohio voters who will find all this persuasive.

That's My Word.

Watch John Gibson weekdays at 5 p.m. ET on "The Big Story" and send your comments to: myword@foxnews.com

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Again, THANK YOU!

Tim, you're kidding, right? I mean, even the Guardian isn't so arrogant as to send something this stupid to total strangers in Ohio, is it? Please, Tim, tell me you were kidding, that this is a parody. Please.

Not to be picky, John, but it's CLARK County, not Cook.

I just love this story and I just want to thank all who commented in yesterday's post for making laugh so hard.

Cheers

My blog has received an advanced copy of one of these Guardian reader missives. Enjoy!
Dear Americans

John Le Carré, double agent?

Well, he bothered to put a copyright notice underneath his Guardian letter, so perhaps he regards it as just another work of fiction that flowed from his pen...

Tim,
The "condescending abuse" link is dead.

This project is either the most appalling display of smug ignorance I have ever witnessed or the most diabolical idea Karl Rove ever had.

Em,

Link fixed -- thanks.

I'm beginning to think this whole Operation Clark County is just another brilliant scheme by uber-Machiavellian dark lord Karl Rove. In fact I'm a little suspicious about Rove's plan appearing here first. Hmmm...has anyone ever seen Tim Blair and Karl Rove together in the same room? Just askin'.

Dear Sir or Madam at The Guardian:

The Guardian's unilateral election interventioniism in a foreign country is nothing short of cowboy journalism and quite outrageous. How could your British publication instigate a direct-mail campaign to subvert American democracy without a multilateral coalition of allies and UN final-final-really-final approval? The Guardian is seriously mistaken if it believes having the sympathies and encouragement of mere birdcage liners, such as the NYT and The Age, is enough to legitimize its enterprise.

For the sake of international stability and appeasement, you need to immediately secure the blessing of Kofi and Kojo (they accept both Euros and dinars) and the collaboration of your real allies, LeMonde, Pravda and The Palestine Daily. Please do this postehaste or risk becoming an isolated global pariah. You wouldn't want the voters of Clark County also to shun you because you failed to internationalize your anti-Bush letter campaign; it should be enough they laugh at you for your usual editorial excrement.

Thank you for your attention.

I sent an email to the political editor of the Guardian thanking him for his paper's interest in the election and the guidelines for England to apply for United States Territory status to begin that long road to statehood and sufferage that they obviously long for.

I mean, really. I am an Ohioan myself, and I can't imagine how anyone could possibly think this would work with your average Midwesterner. "Gosh, if it weren't for the fact that the author is a 'furriner', I'd think this letter was a really creepy stalker kind of thing to get in the mail. Maybe I ought to give that Kerry guy another look, based on the condescending opinion of this complete stranger."

And Kyoto would have prevented the hurricanes? That ties in well with Edwards' latest claim that by the simple act of electing Kerry president, paraplegics will walk again and lepers will be made clean.

Of course, my county has voted Republican since Abraham Lincoln in 1860, so I may be off base with the swing counties up north.

By the way, I am not sure Samia Rahman's invocation of the Founding Fathers is a good move, considering their fairly well known position concerning keeping the damned Redcoats out of our buisness.

The only time a European should be writing to an American about unemployment rates or any other economic statistic is when the European wants advice.

Once again flipping the bird at leftists worldwide. 3 words come to mind- Kiss My @ss!!!!!!
I hope Bush's landslide victory causes great gnashing of teeth, wailing and moaning across the globe. Watch out, Iranian Mullahs, you're next!

I love this. Who couldn't?

God bless the dems for their insatiable desire to entertain us with their imbecility.

P.S. God curse the internet! It's gotten so good, no one gets any work done.

By last night, more than 7,000 people had requested the name of a voter.

When do you think Rahman & Co. will realize the majority of those 7,000 requests are from Tim Blair readers?

DeKalb-

That was a brilliant satire. Please tell me that you sent that to all of the Guardian addresses.

God curse the internet! It's gotten so good, no one gets any work done.

Darwin, sure got that right. :-)

Yep, and thanks, Dave S!

As Churchill said, "How retarded of a people do they think we are?"

Despite living in a healthless, coatless country we've somehow managed to stumble upon 90% of the world's inventions over the last 150 years. Is it remotely conceivable that France et al would have created the internet (before Al Gore did)?

Being lectured about human and civil rights by a Muslim and a female no less, is akin to my five year old telling me how mean I am because I made him clean his room. Sure would like to have a subscription to her magazine. Does it have centerfolds?

That letter from Sammy Rahman is just too good to be true. Please, Tim, say you did not make it up. As a Bush supporter, I wish every voter in the US could get that letter!

Actually, I find the concept of a "Muslim lifestyle magazine" extremely intriging.

"...many foreigners’ feelings of helplessness while they watched the unfolding of the U.S. election."

That's a really bizarre thing to say. It's as if I were to talk about my "feelings of helplessness as I watched a family of complete strangers go about their business without asking my advice." Guys, if you want to be states no. 51, 52, 53, and do on, just apply. The worst that can happen is we tell you "no thanks."

Even though I'm a US citizen, I live in a state (California) that is so uncontested my vote has no chance of swaying the election. So, for all practical purposes, my vote doesn't count either. In fact, if you look at the electoral college maps, the three most populous states in the US (Cal, Texas & New York) are completely out of competition.

Despite that fact, I don't see any handwringing from the Guardian editorial staff about how MY vote (the vote of, like, you know, an actual citizen) doesn't count. And yet, they still want to piss and moan about how unfair it is that **they** don't get to influence the US election.

Filthy imerialist scum.

I hold those Guardian pricks directly responsible for this.

NOTE FOR DARWIN fINCH

The French did invent a form of internet - Minitel - it represented the peak of 70s era technology. It is slow, rigid, text-based and fossilised.

Could that be this Samia Rahman?

In reply to the letter, written by Samia Rahman:

“I, like you, would feel disappointed to learn that since the Republicans came to power in 2000, unemployment has soared by a third, the number of people living in poverty has increased by nearly three million and the erosion of standards in education has become a startling reality.”

Where did you say you took your degree in economics?

Once upon a time I was a government economist, and I’m pretty familiar with government economic statistical series, and all I can say about this absurd statement is that the author can’t even do Arithmetic.

Populations increase over time, the size of the labor force increases over time (including the increase due to illegal immigration), and those are the numbers that must be used as the divisor in determining the magnitude of employment.

The number of unemployed is of course the dividend in that calculation: the magnitude of unemployment is measured by a ratio of unemployed to the total labor force. How bad unemployement is in an economy is NOT determined by the simple number of unemployed, but ONLY by comparison to the size of the economy. One person unemployed would be a notable fact if true in an ecoomy of 300 million, but a huge crisis in an economy of 2.

So, by the standard used in economic SCIENCE vs. demagoguery, the magnitude of unemployment in the US is BELOW what it was in 1996 when Clinton campaigned on numbers WORSE than under George W. Bush.

If anything, unemployment is overreported.
1) due to the IMPORTING of new labor into this country. The job creation process is so efficient here that new labor comes into the country on a scale dwarfing any other country. And until new labor finds a job, it is counted as unemployed.
2) due to the phenomenon of the “virtual office,” allowing people to start more and more business from home using modern telecommuniations and computers. These are not counted by the old labor metrics.

What is your answer to these economic facts?

The standard of living argument is another ignorant and/or dishonest attempt to compare apples and oranges.

As Gregg Easterbrook of the non-conservative New Republic and the non-conservative Brookings Insitute has written in THE PROGRESS PARADOX, government bureauracacies have been re-defining “poverty” upward constantly ever since statistics have been kept.

So, the fact is that the “basket” of goods used as the defining criteria of “poverty” has changed. It is and has always been a relative measure. Poverty in the U.S. is now defined by how MANY TV’s one has, how many cars one has, and how many square feet one’s home is.

Here’s the truth, from unndisputed statistics reported by gov. bureaus:

46% of all the poor own their own houses. The average home owned by the poor has three-bedrooms, a garage and a porch or patio.
The typical poor American has more living space than the AVERAGE (not “poor”) citizen living in Paris, London, Vienna and other major European cities.
76% of US poor have air conditioning, vs 36% of ALL Ammericans 30 years ago.
75% of US poor own a car; 30% own two or more cars.
97% of the US poor have a color TV; over 50% own two or more TV’s.
78% own a VCR or DVD player; 62% have cable or satellite TV.
73% own microwave ovens, over 50% have a stereo, and a third havean automatic dishwasher.
Americans have so much food that the nutrition crisis here is of overweight children and adults.

“I would also be alarmed by your president’s breathtaking disregard for the environment, demonstrated by his pulling out of the Kyoto agreement to stem global warming, a phenomenon that may well be the cause of the freak hurricanes that lashed Florida in recent weeks.”
Where did you say you got your degree in climate science?

I’ve been an economist, and I earn a living in applied physics.

The burden of proof is on you: cite a reputable scientist that has said the Florida hurricanes (back to levels of 30 years ago, tying numbers in one season/one state from a century ago) had anything to do with global warming.

By-the-bye, please explain a theory of global warming that takes into account the 30-some ice-ages in the last million years, the inter-glacial warming trend, and solar-cycle correlations with general warming and cooling trends.

Also, take your pick - superstitious fealty to Kyoto pop-science, or employment.

And while you are making Bush the villain of voting down Kyoto, remember that it was voted down by the US Senate 95-0. 1997: Kerry voted NO to Kyoto. You need 2/3 of the Senate to ratify a treaty in the US system – and that is before it goes to the House. IT’S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN NO MATTER WHO IS PRESIDENT—NEVER….

Now who are you blaming for killing Kyoto?

Has anyone noticed how Americans are the usual recipients of the Nobel prize for disciplines other than peace (which everyone knows Americans know or do nothing about except for the great stagflator Jimmy Carter) or literature (which, of course, Americans know absolutely nothing about)?

And when someone other than an American wins, he or she usually works or teaches (which is not quite the same thing regardless of what Glenn Reynolds might say) in the US?

I wonder when was the last time a Frenchman won a Nobel Prize? Actually, I wonder when was the last time any French person did anything that made a positive difference in anyone's life?

"Actually, I wonder when was the last time any French person did anything that made a positive difference in anyone's life?"

Do their ticklers count?

Sutherland, that was magnificent. I hope you actually sent it to the silly twit.

Ron W: I had a great answer and then realized you said a "positive difference" caused by Frenchmen. Jeez. What a buzz-kill. I guess maybe champagne and some of that stinky cheese? Those were a long time ago, though, weren't they? At one time I might have said Brigitte Bardot, but look what's happened to her (oops, double buzz-kill).

Oh, yeah. FRENCH FRIES!!! The perfect food.

"Sure would like to have a subscription to her magazine. Does it have centerfolds?"

If that "Muslim lifestyle magazine" does have a centerfold, I'll bet it features goats.

Great post, Sutherland. Poverty in America has been re-defined so much that it's difficult to identify the truly needy.

One nit: the Sense of the Senate Resolution regarding Kyoto failed by a vote of 99 to 0, an even more lopsided margin than you indicate.

Not surprised to see that John Le Carre has joined in the Guardian's 'let's take back the colonies' putsch. Le Carre (real name Cornwell - but that's so common) has always written a thin thread of anti-Americanism into his novels, particularly evident in 'Tinker, Tailor, Soldier Spy' where Le Carre uses his doppelganger, Bill Haydon, to rail against America and its influence on post-war affairs. The theme is repeated in other Le Carre novels, subliminal sometimes, but always there.
Of course Le Carre would probably deny that his protest was anti-American and insist that he was merely anti-Bush but I think that Le Carre, like most who have responded to the Guardian operation, are haters who have seized the opportunity to vent their anti-Americanism. Bush is merely a convenient figurehead.

Le Carre's strategy is working! Bush is up by 4.

I live in Ohio. Thank you for the links to the email addresses of those ignorant SOB's at the Guardian.
I find it interesting that all of a sudden these elitist jounalists want to contact the good people of Clark County (I live in Belmont County). For anyone who reads this, I will tell you that Clark County is a mostly rural place. You know the type of place where people own guns because they like to shoot deer, turkeys, pheasant, and racoons. They also go to churches, for the most part are anti-abortion, and proudly send their sons and daughters to the US military to do the job that much of the world refuses to do. It is in the heartland of our great country. The reason that some of them will vote for Kerry is because he has promised to steal money from the people who work to contribute to our country's economy, and redistribute it to the third generation welfare recipiants.
For the Guardian to think that these people share their leftist views or even give a damn about what Europeans think of G W Bush shows their ignorance and their arrogance.
God Bless America, and all of it's allies!

"many foreigners’ feelings of helplessness while they watched the unfolding of the U.S. election."

Good. They're supposed to feel helpless to influence US politics. Its why they are foreigners. If they don't like it, they should move here, start paying taxes, and become citizens.

Then they can feel nauseous about US politics, instead of just helpless.

Hi Tim:-

Just thought that if any of your readers wish to make a comment to Samia Rahman from the Muslim lifestyle magazine, just fill in this comment form and please keep it polite.

Hmm.

A Muslim lifestyle magazine? Why not a deathstyle magazine. Dont they just love death more than life ?

From: Nigel Wanker, Concerned Citizen of the World
To: Hiram Buckshot, Resident, Clark County, OH
Subject: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Dear Mr. Buckshot,

I am writing you as a concerned Citizen of the World, hoping that I can prevail upon you to vote for Senator John Kerry and against (I cry as I type the hated name) Bush in the upcoming election, in which I have no VOICE and no REPRESENTATION, even though it AFFECTS US ALL! My Muslim friends have made it plain that only when Bush INVADED IRAQ did they take up carbombing, beheading, blowing up children, etc as a means of protest, because they have been CRUELLY DISENFRANCHISED by NOT BEING BORN AMERICAN! I have little doubt that you'll join your Fellow Socialists, Multi-Cultis, Vegans, Anti-Globalists, Friends of the Earth, Anti-Frankenfoodists, members of the Society to Protect All Things Fluffy, and Right Thinking People in General to stand against the evil that is YOUR CURRENT PRESIDENT! If you do so, the world will FORGIVE YOU and welcome you back to THE WORLD COMMUNITY.

Sincerely,

Nigel Wanker
Academic, Writer, and Concerned Citizen of the World

In case anyone was wondering why I thought that a Muslim lifestyle magazine might feature goats in a centerfold, well, this is why.

These UK Bush-haters are about as smart as AUS Howard-haters and will have the same electoral effect if they don't shut-up PDQ.

Jesus H. Ker-ist, Muslim Lefties telling Good Old Boys to vote DEM.

This stuff is beyond parody.

Muslim & Lifestyle not really two words you see juxtaposed often. Aren't they mutually exclusive?

And to think that until now I thought John Le Carré was vastly overrated. The man's a genius!

If you want to send just one zinger email, copy the list below just like it is and paste it into the TO: line. Works just great.

erp

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jonathan.fredland@guardian.co.uk,
clare.dyer@guardian.co.uk,
polly.toynbee@guardian.co.uk,
dan.glaister@guardian.co.uk,
ian.katz@guardian.co.uk,
isabel.hilton@guardian.co.uk,
james.fenton@guardian.co.uk,
stephen.brook@guardian.co.uk,
simon.tisdall@guardian.co.uk,
malcolm.dean@guardian.co.uk,
steve.bell@guardian.co.uk,
eric.allison@guardian.co.uk,
matt.wells@guardian.co.uk,
dan.milmo@guardian.co.uk,
richard.norton-taylor@guardian.co.uk,
alan.travis@guardian.co.uk,
conal.urquhart@guardian.co.uk,
mberlins@aol.com,
mike.hough@guardian.co.uk,
audrey.gillan@guardian.co.uk,
ewen.macaskill@guardian.co.uk,
lee.glendinning@guardian.co.uk,
jason.burke@observer.co.uk,
michael.billington@guardian.co.uk,
owen.gibson@guardian.co.uk,
david.brindle@guardian.co.uk,
lyn.gardner@guardian.co.uk,
adrian.searle@guardian.co.uk,
jonathan.jones@guardian.co.uk,
claire.cozens@guardian.co.uk,
judith.mackrell@guardian.co.uk,
jason.deans@guardian.co.uk,
dominic.timms@guardian.co.uk,
jonathan.glancey@guardian.co.uk,
alexis.petridis@guardian.co.uk,
john.fordham@guardian.co.uk,
andrew.clements@guardian.co.uk,
tim.ashley@guardian.co.uk,
nancy.banks-smith@guardian.co.uk,
editor@guardianunlimited.co.uk,
politics.editor@guardianunlimited.co.uk,
editor@mediaguardian.co.uk,

I sent the following

Dear James,

I picked your name out of a hat so to speak, as your christian name is the same as my husband's. What this is about is the Guardian's strange offer to "try to educate the voters" in Clark Cty Ohio.

Excuse me?? Do you guys have a clue who we are and how we think? I really do not believe so.

It is not our problem that Europe (and the Guardian) are trying to retain the long dead "colonial" attitude that blacks and moors can't possibly understand and take advantage of things like freedom to chose their leaders, real education, free speech, and the ability to follow their own agenda. That is YOUR problem, and yours to learn how to deal with. Afghanistan has held their first ever election, schools are open for all, and the seed is planted. Soon Iraq will follow that path to free expression and the new wave will move on. It matters little to us that the Guardian, Kofi Annan, the French, German, Swedish, etc governments disapprove. What matters is that the middle east, one of the last bastions of repression, at last has a chance of crawling out from under the colonial misapprehention that "these people because of their way of life and religious beliefs cannot survive without a strong (repressive and all too often brutal) government".

Will Europe etc be proven wrong? You betcha!! It is far to late to put the genie back in the bottle now. Freedom is on the march..........with or without four more years of George Bush. The Iraqis and Afghanis will see to that, if nothing else.

The worst prejudice of all is the "soft prejudice" of lowered expectation. Are you of the Guardian perhaps suffering from that lowest form of prejudice - the old outdated colonial belief in the "white man's burden"?

Sincerely

Catherine Bell

Dear English Pen Pal:

I sure was surprised to see your letter in the mail today cuz I was just expectin the newsletter from the grange. I had to ask my cousin Cletis where this England place was and he guessed it was somewhere up near Columbus but then my buddy Doug said it was a foreign country over by China. Anyway I ain’t never had a letter from so far away before so I was as tickled as a kitten on a hay bale to get it.

Now I been scratchin my head tryin to figure out all this election stuff so I was mighty glad to get some advice on the matter. I don’t know what all this talk about war mongrin and imperialism is about but I was sure proud to hear that you thought America was so good at it. I figured this was a point in President Bush’s favor but then you said he was the one responsible for all them hurricanes down in Florida and I have to say that set me back a bit cuz my Creationism teacher never mentioned nothin about that in school.

Anyways I’ll be lookin for more good advice on this matter and if I can get my truck runnin again I’ll be sure to head down to the polling place at the proper time.

Your new American friend,

Dale

Here's my contribution, sent to those on the e-mail list above:

Subject : [Systems Administrator]Cook County e-mails

It has come to my attention that an organisation I have no control over is attempting to influence the US elections - an issue that concerns the whole world.

I am therefore writing to you in the name of us, the disempowered and disposessed, and cause a real change in the editorial stance of The Guardian.

Your paper's actions have an effect throughout the world: yet we, who don't read the thing, have no voice in what it says. This is manifestly unjust.

I therefore demand in the name of Justice a say in the editorial and political content of your newspaper. All stories and editorials should be submitted for vetting here in Australia, and only those we deem worthy of publication should be allowed to go into print. This is simple jutice. Now this may not be in your paper's best interests, but we must all make some sacrifices. And compared to many parts of the world, such as North Korea and the Sudan, Guardian employees are vastly overpaid anyway.

I thank you for your paper's courageous stand in writing to the voters of Cook County in Ohio. Without your example, I never would have written this letter. I am encouraging several million readers of weblogs I contribute to in various parts of the world to follow my example, so the People's Voice Shall Be Heard.

OT so I'll be quick. Laid in a stock of Yellowtail Shiraz to celebrate Howard's win. When I open this wine, should I let it breathe or will it just make a break for it if it gets its wind back?

"The American Revolution was fought for a reason," Ms. Rosicka remarked.

LOL!

Thanks for the info. I had no idea it was this warped out there. Unfortunately, my letter to the editors is unprintable on such a fine upstanding website such as this.
Thanks again from Missouri, USA. God Bless!

"'The American Revolution was fought for a reason,' Ms. Rosicka remarked."

Game. Set. Match.

Guardian gets the verbal beat down from those supposedly ignorant folks in Clark County.

Randal R.

Enough, enough. LOL thanks.

God bless Linda Rosicka. I don't care what party she's in, she's a true American.

Those Midwestern gals are no-nonsense.

What's it all matter? American's aren't stupid this time round. They'll figure out all the ways Bush has ruined America domestically that they don't need international help:
http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=64326

Then all you unevolved Bush supporters can creep back into your holes and nurse your hatred for a world that wants freedom and tolerance and peace.

We at The Diplomad suggest that all Americans send copies of their income tax IRS 1040s to the Guardian and ask them to have their readers pay our taxes, serve in our military, obey all of our laws, and do everything with say in exchange for us letting them have a say in Clark County.

No representation without taxation!

"No representation without taxation"

Unless you're part of the elitist Neo-cons who just love passing bills to reduce the tax of the very wealthiest Americans.

Way to go - suckers.

commonscents said: "nurse your hatred for a world that wants freedom and tolerance and peace."

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*gasp*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*chortle*

Really, warn me before you lob a hilarious stupid-bomb of that magnitude again.

Certainly we ill-informed fiefdom bound colonial barbarians needed the guidance of our
erudite and divinely guided lords at "The Guardian" to execute a profound task as electing a president.

Obviously the concepts of freedom and tolerance and peace don't sit well with goldsmith.

But we have to do our bit to save you lot from yourselves. Your anger at the freedoms people have won makes sense in the context of your narrow world views.

Freedom of choice, sexuailty, association and civil rights are anathema to you all. You don't value freedom, and you certainly don't value democracy if it involves minorities and women and students voting.

It's all just cheap talk from you when the real passion behind support for Bush is because he will wage war against other races, and a women's right to choose and any other right people have that you just can't stand.

Bush is just a burning light for all those latent KKK peeps out there - which explains why no matter how incompetent Bush has executed the war or managed the economy you will still support him beyond the bounds of rationality.

What I relish is that even now with his administration in power doing everything it can to throttle democracy you're all still too cowardly to admit you're just xenophobic. It tells me that deep inside there is still some goodness in your soul holding you back.

I just hope you poor, lost, scared souls find yourselves before you get consumed by the other side.

common nonsense said:

"American's aren't stupid this time round."

That's exactly the point we are making on the Graudain contest! They think we are, hence their letter writing campaign.

Your Euroweenie allies are really screwing up here. Instead of dropping your feces here, you ought to drop the Graudain a line about their strategy....oh, wait, a lot of us already have.

Never mind! :-)

"But we have to do our bit to save you lot from yourselves. Your anger at the freedoms people have won makes sense in the context of your narrow world views."

Hmmmmm....so Afghans voting in an open election makes us angry? Iraqis standing on their own pisses us off? The Liberals winning big in Australia makes us incoherent with rage?

And when a foreign news organization attempts to influence open elections, our response of thousands of e-mails to the crapulent paper is an act of violence?

Commonsense, your screen name is an oxymoron.

I love the irony of posting such drivel under the name "commonsense".

Rove plant!

Actually, I find the concept of a "Muslim lifestyle magazine" extremely intriging.

In this month's issue of ULULULULU:

-20 fresh new summer bomb recipes
-Washing out those stubborn bloodstains
-Should I have a seventeenth child?
-Whiplash is OUT; stress leave is IN.
-Yasir's passion for Saddam cools
-Greater restriction is the new fashion for this season's burkhas

The Real JeffS:

Come on mate - you must have the wool pulled over your eyes if you're trying to tell me Afghanistan is a glimmering new democracy! Warlords control most of the country except *parts* of Kabul - and you should know full well the administration rushed to get this 'vote' so they could have gits like you say "Look - they voted, so Afghanistan is now a democracy!". You're either disingenuous or very simplistic on this one mate.

I agree with commonsense. Reinstall the Taliban! Unless perfect democracy is delivered in under a year, its not worth doing at all.

Up with theocracy!

With a little editing, commonsense’s comment becomes an excellent rebuttal of fundamentalist Islam:

"Obviously the concepts of freedom and tolerance and peace don't sit well with you.

"But we have to do our bit to save you lot from yourselves. Your anger at the freedoms people have won makes sense in the context of your narrow world views.

"Freedom of choice, sexuailty, association and civil rights are anathema to you all. You don't value freedom, and you certainly don't value democracy if it involves minorities and women and students voting.

"It's all just cheap talk from you when the real passion behind support for jihad is because it will wage war against other races, and a women's right to choose and any other right people have that you just can't stand.

"I just hope you poor, lost, scared souls find yourselves before you get consumed by the other side."

Take that, Islamists!

Quentin George - your mates in the US already did install, train, and supply the Taliban in case you inconveniantly forgot.

Now the same mob along with tribal warlords are *once again* being financed by the US military, because they can't afford to be bogged down in more fighting as the condition in Iraq drastically deteriorates. So nothing's really changed has it? It's all just PR spin for you to regurgiate to whoever you think gullible enough to believe the "Freedom and Democracy!" line.

*yawn*

"But we have to do our bit to save you lot from yourselves. Your anger at the freedoms people have won makes sense in the context of your narrow world views."

Hmmmmm....so Afghans voting in an open election makes us angry? Iraqis standing on their own pisses us off? The Liberals winning big in Australia makes us incoherent with rage?

JeffS, I think commonsense is talking about our perceived anger about him being allowed to post such drivel. ;) You think an imbecile like him cares about Iraqis and Afghanis? Nah, those brown people don't matter to commonsense. Patriot Act! Library records! AshKKKroft! BusHitler! That's where the action is for smallminded people like him. I'm looking forward to not hearing from you on Nov 3rd, "commonsense".

Oh Tim - I absolutely agree with you on that one. It can be applied to fundamentalists within both Islamic and Western society.

You just fail to see that you are of the Western variety.

It's all just PR spin for you to regurgiate to whoever you think gullible enough to believe the "Freedom and Democracy!" line.

Yep! That's the plan. Clever you! You've caught us out.

Clearly you are too learned to be able to glean anything extra by hanging around here.

Goodbye!

You just fail to see that you are of the Western variety.

Ahahahaha!

Oh, commonsense, you are a funny guy.

Quentin, you mean you don't regularly hack people's hands off, stage public hangings of minors and cover every female around you with large black pieces of cloth and forbid them to speak? What kind of RWDB are you?

As an Ohioan, I felt it was my duty to reply to the e-mail listing above for the Guardian Newspaper. If anyone cares, here's what I sent.

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Having lived in the great state of Ohio my entire life, and having read some of the condescending "messages" that some of your readers have already sent to some of my fellow citizens of the Buckeye state, I thought a proper response was in order.

Most Ohioans are well aware of the "world's" opinion on President Bush and the real numbers involving unemployment rates in our country. The rate in the U.S. is currently floating around 5 and a half percent, about what it was during the fourth year of Clinton's presidency. We know all of the "terrible" things "he's" done economically. Most of which can be traced back to the Clinton presidency, when the recession that hit our country officially began. Something that I was all too aware of in my former place of work, but something that has been entirely dismissed by "outside" observers like you and your readership. We're well aware, thanks to the mainstream media, of "how bad we have it."

Taking that in account and for what it's worth, if you don't like our President or how we vote, Ohio doesn't give a shit.

I've lost friends in the military since the war on terror began. I have one friend who knew a dozen people who perished in the WTC. I watched the interstate by my work place get shut down because two young Muslim men decided that parking their car, taking the plates off of it and taking a taxi out of town wasn't suspicious looking two weeks after our country had been attacked. Doesn't sound like much? Try telling that to yourself when you watch the nuclear haz mat team show up and start blocking the roads off. Feelings of international solidarity aren't ignited when a Al Qaeda nutcase is found with plans to blow up a shopping area we regularly attend. In case you didn't know, blowing people up is a bad thing - even if its Ohioans or Israelis at a bus stop.

I don't expect the politicians in England to understand that, apparently defending yourself against an armed criminal in your own home is a crime in most instances. What's even sadder is that England and all of Europe is under the same threat. Hopefully, it won't the sacrifice of 3,000 of your fellow citizems to wake up like we did. At least Tony Blair understands that.

I'm sorry, but my life and the lives of my fellow Ohioans are more valuable to me than any feelings of impotence you apparently have in the lack of involvement in our political process. If an American newspaper tried this same stunt, you would be outraged and you should be. What goes on in your country is your own business. Once our borders and nation are reasonably safe, maybe Bush can make all of you happy and quit wrecking your lives. I, like most Americans, am ready for a nice healthy dose of isolationism after seeing the reactions from our "friends" after we dump a couple dictators. For now, I'm happy to have a leader who considers keeping his fellow citizens alive against a 30-year old terror threat more important than international ridicule.

Look PW, I've got to have a bit of time off with my twelve year old arranged bride. Me and her are going down to stone the adulterer before morning prayer.

Then we are planning to bring down Western Civilization.

ALLAH AKBAR!

This is what I wrote to the numerous addresses provided above by erp (thanks erp):

I understand your strong desire to influence the American Presidential election. I also understand you support an effort to call voters in the battleground state of Ohio. With all due respect, kindly see to your own affairs and bugger off.

The British Empire surrendered her role in this country's affairs quite a while ago and it has been a beneficial happenstance. Granted, your forebears thought us incapable of running a country and therefore took it upon themselves to burn our capital to the ground; all is forgiven on that account. And we're glad you've got enough time in your day to worry about us. But you'll be happy to know we've done quite well since last your troops visited. Please restrain any current notion you have to venture into our politics as we seem to have a hang on this self-government concept.

Your current intention to involve yourselves "over here" should be limited to investment at the NYSE. And we'll try diligently not to involve ourselves "over there" on your continent. We've got other matters to which we must attend.

Thank you kindly for (ceasing) your attention to this matter.

Cheers,

Chris D. Birkel

Boss Hog - have you ever read le Carre's The Quiet American? The book where the British journalist 'hero' arranges the death of the American CIA agent who had saved his life?

Amd why does he do this? Well theres a beautiful Vietnamese girl's 'love' at stake, and well - he just decided to choose 'humanity' (the VietCong) over those nasty troublemaking Yanks..

Although I liked both the book and the movie, Le Carre made his sympathies very clear. I think its mainly sour grapes because Britannia doesnt rule the waves any more.

Hm. This "commonsense" troll seems to be the same one that slimed into Bill Whittle's blog last week. Guess it's desperate for attention, and projecting like there's no tomorrow.

Its a great idea, How to piss people off and get them to vote for Bush. The Guardian no`s.

They must be working on some way to block the mailings. I attempted to use the mass mailing list and all letters except to Monbiot were bounced. His came back with a smarmy note about how busy he was and would be unable to replay personally, but he just might be available to make speeches for your group. This might have gone through to a couple of the staff, however:

Comrades:

As a Bush backer (having been converted from your politics by that commedia dell' arte figure, Nobel Peace Prize recipient Jimmy Carter), I want to extend my heartfelt gratitude for your assistance in re-electing W.

No matter the party affiliation, Americans truly detest English arrogance, condescension and rudeness. I say that as a first-generation American of British stock who has traveled extensively and often in your green and pleasant land, which is spoiled only by the presence of such as yourselves. It's quite specifically the English who get the American wind up. I notice Southern English even get the Northern wind up. "Toffee-nosed bastards" seems to be the general opinion from the Midlands northward, inevitably so in Wales and Scotland.

I do detect the fine Italian hand of Karl Rove behind this entire operation, and I wonder just who it is on staff (editorial or reportorial) has been suborned. Clark County is, of course, almost sublimely irrelevant, so no matter what your efforts are, they will be of no consequence, as Rove in his genius understands. It is, as we say, the principle of the thing. As word gets out -- and you folks must be even more provincial than we thought to believe that all Americans are naive semi-literates -- your imperialist intervention will only anger Americans of both parties and can thereby do your cat's paw Kerry no good. Were your memory not so afflicted by the sclerotic arteries of age, you would recall that some centures ago, we kicked out German Geordie and his Redcoats. You lot can as well be described as Red coats, so have a care if you plan to visit.

Again, many thanks for your assistance. And if an American can return the interventionist favor, get the hell away from the EU while the UK still has a small chance of surviving. There are some splendid things on that little island, even if The Guardian is not one of them.

And Antonia fraser, whose father i believe campaigned fot years fro the release od Myra Hindley, monster who killed and tortured children in horrific ways!
what kind of backgorund is that?
Well i figure that a foreing rag, interfering directly in the election process of the US must constitute an offence. Hopefeully prosecituion will come after the elections.
remember
the wolf howls of the left when Bush declared he backed howard? was'nt that raised in the house?

Hm. This "commonsense" troll seems to be the same one that slimed into Bill Whittle's blog last week. Guess it's desperate for attention, and projecting like there's no tomorrow.

C'mon Pat, you gotta love trolls like commonsense. I mean the cry "you are as fundamentalist as Al Qaeda" just cracks me up.

Don't bother mailing Robin Grant.
We're talking interior decorating / 'great help around the house' grade wanker.
He's a treasure and a cute possum but not likely to be credible with your average CC voter who probably thinks that Rob's fascination with whether it is / is not a sin to look at ya showering partner's penis, is beyond irrelevant.
Checkout the @perfect site from Tim's Robin Grant link.

your hatred for a world that wants freedom and tolerance and peace.

The world doesn't want freedom and tolerance and peace. It wants Saddam Hussein to be allowed to murder dissidents, Sudan to slaughter blacks, Iran to execute gays, Cuba to torture journalists, Zimbabwe to abuse human rights, and North Korea to starve its populace.

Or, if it doesn't want that, it at least doesn't want to lift a finger to stop it.

Then there are those of us who actually care about human suffering. We want to end those things. And we recognize that the only way to stop them is to use force, because people who AK-47s to shoot little girls in the back are not going to stop because we ask them to nicely.

We wanted to end tyranny it when we were called liberals, and those leading us were Gladstone, Roosevelt, and Kennedy. And we still want to end it today, when we are called neoconservatives and those leading us are Blair, Howard, and Bush.

And yes, we're the same people. The reason we are neoconservative is because we were liberals; we crossed the aisle when the worshippers of Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Pol Pot seized control of the left.

When the left stopped believing in liberty and instead began idolizing tyrants, we liberals had nowhere else to go. The only path left was a popular front with the conservatives of the Anglo-American, Burkean tradition. Though they have their faults, the methods of the police state are foreign to them, and that's enough for now. When the slaughterers of millions are upon the ash heap of history, there will be plenty of time to contend with the opponents of gay marriage.

"Boss Hog - have you ever read le Carre's The Quiet American? The book where the British journalist 'hero' arranges the death of the American CIA agent who had saved his life?"

The sentiment's right but the quote is wrong. If memory serves me right it was it was Graham Greene who wrote "The Quiet American". I've never been really sure if Greene was displaying anti-American bias in his plot or was merely commenting on the changing world order, i.e. the 'new' world taking over the obligations of the 'old' world and the naivety of the new players. But Greene's novel was set in a period which existed over 40 years ago and can't be judged by today's realpolitik.
I think that the essential difference between Bush and Kerry is that Bush understands the realities of the 21st Century - that the top dog can't hoped to be liked - whereas Kerry believes and appeals to the ingenuous belief in the American hoi-polloi, that one can command *and* be liked.
As I quoted here (I think) a while ago:
'The hatred of your country is not because it attacks theirs; it is because it keeps theirs safe. Never seek popularity. You can have supremacy or be loved but never both. What is felt towards you is ten per cent genuine disagreement and ninety per cent envy.
Once the Romans had that dubious honour. They had responded to the hatred with ruthless force of arms. A hundred years ago the British Empire had been the rooster. They had responded to the hatred with languid contempt. Now the Americans have it, and they rack their consciences to
where they had gone wrong.'
Although it is disguised with high minded ideals, ethical grandiloquence and mealy-mouthed mea culpas the anti-Bush rhetoric from the American left and minor Eurotrash is nothing more than envy. The thing to keep in focus is that anti-American initiatives, such as the 'Guardian' stupidity, emanates from the very noisy minority. Remember that the main support for Bush is from the established Anglophone democracies (excepting Canada, of course) who have been tempered in the crucible of civil war and world war. As far as Canada is concerned, well what can one say? Blood tells and the Franco-recessive gene has proved malignant in recent years. If there is one valid charge that can be levelled against the American martyr, Benedict Arnold, it is that he failed to conquer Quebec in 1774. BTW, Arnold, who went over to the British, because he believed that the American Congress was compromising itself by giving hostage to the French, is beginning to look more and more like a true American patriot.

"What I relish is that even now with his administration in power doing everything it can to throttle democracy you're all still too cowardly to admit you're just xenophobic. It tells me that deep inside there is still some goodness in your soul holding you back."

OK ‘commonsense’ I think I may need a translator for this paragraph, the words by themselves all make sense but the way they are strung together makes the whole a non-sequitur for me.

How does the ‘administration throttling democracy’ have anything to do with us ‘being too cowardly to admit xenophobia’? How does ‘being too cowardly to admit xenophobia’ indicate some goodness in a person let alone that goodness holding them back? Back from what?

Maybe you meant that the throttling of democracy by the government tells you that there is some goodness holding us back....from something.

Frankly I am baffled. Care to expand on it a bit?

PS In the earlier post although you managed to mention KKK, neocons, tax cuts to the rich, racist, incompetent, xenophobic you forgot Halliburton, BusHitler and stupid.

Commonsense: Look at me, look at me .. I am going to ejaculate enough spoof to repopulate a small planet when Bush wins. Oh my god it will be THAT good.

I echo was WL says above, by the way.

...but I'm really as bad as those nasty Islamists.

...really.

Andrea,

They're doing it again.

"commonsense", "thecommongood", "highlyevolvedmorallysuperiorhumanbeing", "welleducatedpersonwhoknowswhatsbestforeveryoneelse", "socialworkertryingtosavetheworldfromsillypeoplewhothinktheyarecapableofmakingtheirownchoiceswithoutmyexperthelp". Some of these monikers I made up. Save us (and our keyboards) please from all the others, lest we puke.

Anyone has John Le Carré's or Dawkins email address or anyone else mailing on behalf of Al Guardian? I suppose we ought to send them an email.

Jorgen

commonsense, it took me a while to stop laughing to type this. Ah, another "Please me NOW, imperialistic neocon!" buffoon.

Thank you!

tim wrote:
>With a little editing, commonsense’s comment becomes an excellent rebuttal of fundamentalist Islam

LOL!

Commonsense,
The more you accuse us of the usual characteristics you think us RWDB's have, the more you polarise people.
You are not going to convince anyone of the righteousness of your ideology by labelling us xenephobic, rascist bigbadmeanies etc, we know we aren't, you are just further convincing us that people like you dont have clue about who we are and what we stand for.
You are typical of the usual shrill self-righteous pretentious elitist prats that infest the loony left. You became convinced of your political righteousness when you were young and havent bothered developing it since.
Methinks YOU are the close minded one mate. Try finding out WHY we believe what we do, what the facts are that back our opinions up and the motications behind them.
Quit assuming thats it's because we're all ignorant gun-toting christian fundamentalist xenophobic hicks. It's insulting (although were used to it and find it quite amusing) to us, and demonstrates what a fool you are.
Cheers
RhikoR

PW, I think you do imbeciles a disserivice by labeling "commonsense" as such. I appreciate your thoughts here (clearly, it does hate anyone who might be free or working for freedom), but clearly commonsense suffers from both a low IQ and some sort of mental condition (or could those symptoms be drug induced?).

It might be better to describe it with qualifications, such as "cretinous fool", "drooling idiot", "narrowminded twit", or "air brain jerk".

That's my opinion, anyhow. Thanks for the comments, BTW! LOL!

Le Carré may have "made a name for himself writing novels of spies and double agents," but he's made an ass of himself ever since.

Well said, RhikoR! I wasn't in the mood to be eloquent myself. But a nice job of slapping down that troll.

I have one vote for the banning of "commonsense." Any more? I was just going to ignore him; I figured he was more entertaining than irritating. I was sure he was a spoof of a troll, not a real troll. (By the way, Dog, I think you meant "spooge." Not to mention -- TMI! Ew.)

Found Dawkins email: simonyi.professor@oum.ox.ac.uk

Jorgen

Dawkins's email, IIRC, also compares Bush's foreign policy to Tony Martin's. I don't think he realizes that if the Ohioans know that Tony Martin was jailed for shooting burglers after being repeatedly broken into and getting no help from the police, that they, like most Americans, would naturally take Mr. Martin's side.

commonsense is being stupid, Andrea, but not abusive. I don't see a need to ban he/she/it.

Yet.

Dear non-U.S. citizens wishing to influence the presidential election.
I have a Pay-Pal(tm) account. Please send me money and I will vote for Kerry. In the case of multiple contributions or Bush winning, there will be no refunds. This offer ends November 2, 2004.

One of the marketing mottos for Ohio tourism is "Ohio: The Heart Of It All". Who knew? Now I live in the center of global political intrigue, which is bound to help tourism. After the election, I invite you all to my house to pop a bottle of fine Lake Erie champagne to toast the reelection of our worthy and misunderestimated President. Of course, one sip will remind us all of the only reason that sane people continue to put up with the French. Cheers!

"The American Revolution was fought for a reason," Ms. Rosicka remarked.

A wonderful sentence anyone in Clark County can cut and paste into a reply email...

What's really dumb is thinking that American's that dumb. What condescending bullshit.

http://www.johnlecarre.com/

The official LeCarré home page. They have Contact AND Guestbook options, hint hint...

Nice job, Richard! And I wasn't the first one to post there on Clark County.......

If we've just listened to the Brits, we would still be a Brit colony, may even be part of Euro, if they would have us. How nice, what a happy family! The world 'hates' us, what's wrong with the world?

I used to read the Guardian for about 6 months after 911 and actually enjoyed some of it. I thought Julie Burchill and David Aaronovitch were both good. Then Burchill left and I got bored sending flaming emails to Monbiot and Milne. Haven't been back in years. Like I told Monbiot in an email, the saddest day of his life was when the Berlin Wall fell west to east and not east to west. He said "no" it wasn't. Bullshit.

OT: DeKalb County.

Georgia or Indiana?

IN A LETTER TO THE WALL ST JNL re AN ARTICLE BY ELIOT COHEN, A NEW JERSEY READER SAID:
"I DOUBT THAT MR. COHEN WOULD BE WILLING TO FACE THE UNPLEASANT RELAITIES OF: AN ARAB-MUSLIM WORLD COMMITTED TO OUR DESTRUCTION; A WILLINGNESS BY EUROPE AND U.N. TO LET IT HAPPEN; A DOMESTIC LIBERAL AND RADICAL AIM TO FIND AMERICA AT FAULT; AND A POPULATION THAT WISHES TO PRETEND THAT WE ARE NOT IN A WAR TO DEFEND OUR CIVILIZATION. IMAGINE HOW UNPLEASANT IT WOULD BE TO CONSIDER THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN A LOSING WAR, WHICH WILL NOT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY UNTIL AMERICA EXPERIENCES HEAVY LOSSES ON HER SOIL, AND THAT WE HAVE BEEN MISTAKEN IN OUR POLITICAL ANALYSES FOR DECADES.

That is my understanding about our peril and the impossibility of a Kerry presidency.

Wrote and sent this to the Guardian last night(or should I say very early this morning).

Warning: Don't read these Guardian letters with a couple glasses of wine, at midnight, if your excitable like me. I was pissed this morning. If enough of them send do these things, Bush will take Clarke County by 10 points!

I know they won't publsih it, but it would make great fun if they did!

An Open Letter to Samia Rahman,

I almost hate to write this letter, because I support my President, and I would love to see you send letters like that to "undecided" Americans. There is no surer way to swing their vote in his direction that receiving a letter like that.

First of all, you state that, "I suspect you never voted for Bush in the first place." Well, there's a little better than a 50/50 chance they probably did vote for him, genius. It was one of the closest races in the country, and he won. He's the President.

Secondly, unemployment hasn't "soared by a third" (as you say) in our country. Our unemployment rate is currently 5.6%. It rose a half of a percentage point in the two months following 9/11 alone. Top that with the recession, and the decline in the stock market, and guess what? A 5.6% unemployment rate isn't so bad. Compare that with France, 9.5%. Germany 9.2%. The European Union's unemployment rate hovers at 9%.

Though it may make you may feel superior to state "the erosion of standards in education has become a startling reality," your saying it just doesn't make it so. Our standards of education have actually increased, and curricula and testing prove this.

We did not sign onto Kyoto, because it was not in the interests of our country. Just ask John Kerry. He didn't like it either, and voted against it. Our president job is to look out for the bests interests of our country. Though you'd like to try and get a "simple American" to believe that the mighty Kyoto could have stopped the hurricanes, Americans realize that the freak hurricanes are just that. Freaks. Talk to a meteorologist, and maybe they can tell you a few things about this.

Your comments about social decline are absurd. Where are you getting your information from, and what leads you to make such an erroneous, outrageous statement? I don't think someone who comes from a society that is busy chopping peoples heads off should be wagging fingers and speaking of social decline.

As for our "perpetual insecurity." It's not perpetual. It's temporary. Thanks to our Republican Administration, we're well on the way to rectifying that. Our Republican Administration did not create our "Insecurity," some crazy islamo-facists did.

Here's a hint, if you want to have any effect on an American, Democrat or Republican, don't spout off on protecting the rights of terrorists, or the people that support them. Neither side of the aisle is going to cry a river over that.

We are not "misrepresented, exploited and cowed ... in the name of a so-called democracy." We enjoy free speech, we demonstrate, we make our points of view known, openly and freely, without fear of retribution. You have to look pretty hard to find a "cowed" American. I don't know what they are feeding you on that side of the pond, but you don't seem to know anything about this country.

Finally, we are not a "so called democracy," we are the Democracy that all other democracies have admired and aspired to. The Democracy that people risk their lives to reach.

Though I don't think I like you, Samia, I do want to say that America loves Great Britain!

Sincerely,
Anne Matthaei
New York, USA

Dee (or someone tell Dee) that Le Carre didn't write, "The Quiet American", it was another Yank hater Brit leftie, Graham Greene. Hollywood leftists made a movie of it. Greene is with the worms.

"Your comments about social decline are absurd. Where are you getting your information from, and what leads you to make such an erroneous, outrageous statement? I don't think someone who comes from a society that is busy chopping peoples heads off should be wagging fingers and speaking of social decline."

Actually, the people responsible for this social decline are all voting for Kerry.

C'mon Pat, you gotta love trolls like commonsense. I mean the cry "you are as fundamentalist as Al Qaeda" just cracks me up.

True, there is that.

My favorite is still "Then all you unevolved Bush supporters can creep back into your holes and nurse your hatred for a world that wants freedom and tolerance and peace."

This has to be originated by Karl Rove. It's like the mechanized phone calls at 02:00AM from Candidate X asking for your vote. Hard to believe our betters could be so stupid!?

Why not let commonsense know how much we appreciate his/her amusing repartee? The email address looks bogus, but I'll give in a try anyway. Such good work shouldn't go unrewarded.

erp

commonsense@isuncommon.com

Just as I thought commonsense's email address is bogus. Mine isn't though and if he/she would like to email me, I'll let him or her know what I think of an English lefty lecturing me about peace and freedom. Hilarious.

contact me at: erp617@yahoo.com

I think it will backfire on them.

Seems they have forgotten our ancestors all LEFT those class-based countries so that we did not have to live in a collective society, dependent only on the benevolence of elitists.

Sounds like they are trying to blame Bush for all THEIR problems! Perhaps Kerry has promised that he can fix everything there too if he is elected!

erp, don't hold your breath. "commonsense" is a typical troll, flinging feces and then scampering home to hide behind the INTERNET, and reflect on how brave it is.

Thanks richard! I will send him some thoughts.

>http://www.johnlecarre.com/

The Guardian says

"Samia Rahman is deputy editor of the Muslim lifestyle magazine emel. She is writing in a personal capacity."

If you write in a personal capacity why do you divulge the name of your employer ?

@Jim Treacher:
"Actually, I wonder when was the last time any French person did anything that made a positive difference in anyone's life?"

Do their ticklers count?

LOL! Do we know that the French invented the French Tickler? Just as Congress renamed French Fries, we should rename the Tickler, the Freedom Tickler!!!

"Then all you unevolved Bush supporters can creep back into your holes and nurse your hatred for a world that wants freedom and tolerance and peace."

Yeah, I really felt the peace and tolerance of the world every morning when I was driving by the big as the side of a barn, chared around the edges, hole in the side of the pentagon every morning.