October 06, 2004


All the election predictions you can stand, beginning with pro and semi-pro pundits:

• Glenn Milne: Coalition by 4

• Paul Bongiorno: Coalition by 0 ("My prediction is a hung parliament, but then a minority Howard government with the support of independents, Bob Katter and Peter King.")

• Stephen Loosley: Labor by 4

• John Hewson: Coalition by 6 ("Wentworth could go Labor.")

• John Laws: Coalition by 6

• Ray Hadley: Coalition by 4

• Don Chipp: ALP by 6

• Gerard Daffy: Coalition by 6

• Wil Anderson: ALP by 5

• David Speers: Too close to call.

• Piers Akerman: Coalition by 5

And now: bloggers, commenters, lurkers, and random others ...

• John Quiggin: "The odds are significantly in Labor's favour."

• Currency Lad: "Mr Latham won't win because he doesn't deserve to win."

• Paul Batey: "Howard is gone. ALP by 18 seats."

• Guido: "It is probable that Howard will remain Prime Minister."

• Southerly Buster: "I certainly hope the Man of Steel is defeated."

• Chris Sheil: "A Latham landslide."

• The House of Wheels: "Coalition to be returned with a small majority (4 seats or so) in the House of Representatives, Greens/Democrats to control the balance of power in the Senate."

• Sam Ward: "Any of you lefties who really, honestly believe that Labor will win are welcome to put your bills up against mine - at even money."

• Graham Freeman: "ALP by 6-8."

• Gianna: "If Howard gets in again, I think it may just break the heart of this Lefty blogger."

• Cy Zilla: "Go Mark. Get over the line mate."

• Professor Bunyip: "John Howard needs to be voted for, make no mistake about that. But when he gets back, if he is ever to be trusted again, there are many expensive promises that need to be broken double quick."

• Ken Parish: "The Coalition will win on Saturday and be returned with a very slightly reduced margin."

• Fat K Files: "John Howard will be returned but it will probably be very, very close."

• Martin Kidd: The senate will remain annoying and fruity, while Howard will be re-elected."

• Tony the Teacher: (way back on September 2, 2003) "Labor's chip-chip tactics WILL win them the next election. But not with Crean at the helm."

• Stephen Kirchner: "My election forecast of 83 seats for the Coalition was originally posted at Quiggin. Quiggin said he would give a prize to the most accurate forecast, but never said what it was!"

• Gubbaboy: "Coalition by 14 seats."

• Murph: "Coalition by 6 in the Lower House. Greens control balance of power in the Upper House. Massive collective embolism by SMH readers."

• Troy Nelson: "Liberals: 72. Labor: 60. Nats: 13. Greens: 1. Independants: 3"

• Paul Bickford: "Labor to pick up a couple of marginals in NSW and VIC, possibly Parramatta and a chance of rolling Turnbull with a split vote and green preferences. Chopped to bits in QLD and TAS, due to the combination of Qld Labor being on the nose and possibly involved in (another) induced suicide, Ivan Milat/Molly and idiotic green preference chasing in Tas. Loss of up to three seats in both states. Rest maybe status quo. Coalition by 10. Greens to possibly pinch a luvvie seat in Sydney or Melbourne from Labor (hope it's Tania Plibarsek). Family First to clean up in the upper house- Greens to maybe pick up two Democrats seats, Democrats to lose all seats up for election, and party status. Howard to have control of the upper house for the first time with support of God-botherers. Margo Kingston pulls out remaining hair, flies broom into the AMP building. Phillip Adams goes on eating binge due to depression, causes Hunter Valley famine. Assorted media gobshites desperately flail around for hatred of reffos type reason to insult and belittle the electorate for their obvious stupidity."

• Bernard Slattery: "Coalition to win 84 seats; Labor, 64; Independents, 2. Coalition to have majority in Senate. Greens to poll heaviest in blue-ribbon Labor seats, meaning their influence on anything is five-eighths of FA. My prognostications are based on hunch alone and are therefore about as reliable as a Morgan poll."

• Mike Jericho: "Latham to win by a small margin. I don't want him to, but the leftward drift is probably too great."

• Jim Mackintosh: "Coalition by 23 seats more than Labor. Coalition will pick up Stirling, Hasluck, Bass and Brisbane; but will lose Dobell and Herbert. Labor will regain the seat it lost to the Greens. The three independents will remain in place. That is Coalition 85, Labor 62, Independents 3."

• Alan Anderson: "An eight-seat win for Howard."
• Scott: "The Coalition will win. In fact they will maintain their comfortable majority and win 82 seats (exactly what they've got now). John Howard will nearly lose his seat. Margo Kingston will discuss the election results in a column that will be amusing for both its childish whining and poor grammar. I will be too hung over to care about any of the aforementioned."

• Todd: "Coalition win by 24."

• Jack Strocchi: "The Coalition of the Willing parties will coast to electoral victory in spite, not because, of their Hawkish foreign policies."

• Jim: "Coalition by 23 seats more than Labor. Coalition will pick up Stirling, Hasluck, Bass and Brisbane; but will lose Dobell and Herbert. Labor will regain the seat it lost to the Greens. The three independents will remain in place. That is Coalition 85, Labor 62, Independents 3."

• JDM: "Latham is new and shiny, and people might just feel like a change."

• Margo Kingston: Coalition by 10.

• Peter Wilkins: Coalition By 24.

• Clive Robertson: ALP by 5

• Fight Fire with Fire: "The Coalition to win with a clear majority of 6 to 8 seats."

•Tom Paine: "The Coalition by six seats, with the Greens holding the balance of power in the Senate."

And me? I'm less confident about this than I was a couple of weeks ago, but I still think Latham will win. Hope I'm wrong.

UPDATE. Centrebet is now paying $4.00 for a Labor win (earlier today it blew out to $4.50). The Coalition is currently at $1.20.

Posted by Tim Blair at October 6, 2004 05:04 AM

tim, you need to consult the Magic Eight Ball.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at October 6, 2004 at 05:08 AM

My only prediction is lots of inner-city Sydneyites complaining next week, 'I don't know anyone who voted for the Coalition..!?

Posted by: jafa at October 6, 2004 at 05:16 AM

I'll put five dollars on Kucinich.

Posted by: Ken Summers at October 6, 2004 at 05:32 AM

Just a reminder if foreign policy is your issue of why you should
vote for Howard

Posted by: Astro at October 6, 2004 at 05:34 AM

Yeah, foreign policy like "it's alright for Indonesia to bomb us".

Or to say "we have the right to pre-emptively strike at terrorists", sit on your hands for the 2 years since the Bali bombing and then create a policy on the run during an election campaign.

Rudd vs Downer - it's a no-brainer.

Posted by: Shaun at October 6, 2004 at 05:45 AM

Sorry above link does not work:

Posted by: Astro at October 6, 2004 at 05:45 AM

Howard. If Latham were about to win, CNNi would be all over it ("another of Bush's Coalition Partners is about to fall")
Stay strong. Me, I'll have my eye on the Afghan elections.
To paraphrase LT. GEN DeLong(with his hattip to Steyn): "this ain't like Vietnam, where you can come home with your tail between your legs. This is for real.)
OK. Excerpting myself from your election.

Posted by: gimpy at October 6, 2004 at 06:36 AM

Mr Howard said more than a year ago that if there was no other choice, he would authorise a pre-emptive strike. No policy on the run there. I'd suggest reading what both parties would do to protect Australians and then start pointing the finger!

Posted by: Lofty at October 6, 2004 at 06:41 AM

I hope you're wrong and that you're just saying this to get more attention from Margo.

Posted by: Melissa at October 6, 2004 at 07:21 AM

My money says that the loony left will lag behind by the number of ballot boxes they cant't stuff before the need to whack off overcomes them!.

Posted by: conjob at October 6, 2004 at 07:44 AM

All I've done is read Blair, Bunyip and a few others (MAAARGO). Now, I discover that I'm actually getting interested in OZ politics, which is strange for Texas. Our politicos suk (and are boring), besides we're all upside down up here, as all with brains know that the Aussies are upright (and true and reliable, so are not about to just fall off the Earth!). No matter who wins in the individual or National elections, we wish you the best of luck, since you surely deserve it.

Posted by: Gerry at October 6, 2004 at 08:39 AM

Coalition 3-0. Howard-Bush-Blair. The Afghan and Iraqi elections will take care of themselves. Although I am pro-Tory, especially on domestic issues, the election of this trio will send a powerful message to the world. Take care of yourselves around election time and be well Australia.

Posted by: YoJimbo at October 6, 2004 at 08:57 AM

I like Latham's ideas about bringing power back to the unions and geting rid of the workplace relations acts, which the Liberal government was reponsible for. The only good that ever came from individual contract was the ability to keep award wages down and inflation in its place but what about unemployment? We have a major unemployment problem in Australia, its time we looked at expansionary policies like more government spending and overlook the debate about a budget surplus. Finally about Howard's interest rates debate, we all know that the RBA sets interest rates and theres no way that inflation will increase that much in the short term for interest rates to rise substantially. I say its time for a change its time to vote labour...I m jus sick of these Liberals giving first preference to middle class and business class indiviuals who can afford private health insurance and that... what about the working class individual who doesn't have a stable job and has to work two casual jobs just to get by.

Posted by: Eraser at October 6, 2004 at 09:12 AM

Perk up Tim
If the Libs can take Bass and one other timber seat it makes Labour's task impossible.
Labour then has to win 2 more on the mainland to maintain the status quo and another 1 to stay in the game.
Win 3 for a gain of 1. That's bad maths for Lifelong.

Today Howard can blindside Lifelong with forest policy. He can get hold of the timber workers votes by promising timber jobs not generous redundancy. He can keep the doctors wives with the right 50,000 ha. No room for error tho.

Posted by: TT at October 6, 2004 at 10:03 AM

The Coalition will have a nett loss of no more than three seats and will be returned. Bad news for a right wing deathbeast like yourself, Tim.

But cheer up, Howard will walk within 18 months. Cue the Abbott and Costello Show. By 2007, the Coalition will be as electable as something I just stepped in. The Libs will join their coalition partners in the slow ride to political oblivion. So it's not all bad news, eh?

One thing: Let's all agree to attack the Greens whenever the chance arises over the next three years. I'll be damned if I'm going to let these hemp-wearing hippie clowns stride about the political stage without scrutiny.

Love your work.

Posted by: Peter Hoysted at October 6, 2004 at 10:40 AM

AAARGH! My predictions are identical to Mago Kingston- does this mean our brains are wired the same way? Next I'll lose all grasp of basic rules of spelling, grammar and punctuation; looks like it's Fairfax or the maximum security home for the perpetually bewildered for me.

Posted by: Habib at October 6, 2004 at 10:41 AM

I suspect that the amount of coverage this election receives in the US will be contingent on the result. If Labor wins, the result will be front page news in the LAT, NYT, WaPo, etc. Therefore, if I wake up Saturday and I don't read anything about the election in the paper, I'll know that Howard won.

Posted by: Sean at October 6, 2004 at 10:44 AM

I think howard will win with a slightly reduced, or the same majority. Having said that, in the next election the coalition will get heavily shot-down. As any experienced, knowledgeable economist would tell you, the government of the time has only a miniscule effect on interest rates. And interest rates will rise after this election - believe it! With people having massive mortgages due to the housing demand caused in part by the coalitions 1st home-buyers grant, a comparatively small increase in interest rates now will seriously hurt people (more than when house prices and mortgages were lower, but interest rates were higher in the 90's). People will continue to be taxed heavily to provide government surpluses, while at the same time domestic foriegn debt (which under howard has tripled) will continue to rise. At this point, any multitude of things could go wrong - my point being the coalition will win, but better be ready for a test over the coming term...

Posted by: donkey at October 6, 2004 at 11:01 AM

The Coalition will win, they are further ahead than Newspoll suggests as Newspoll always lags,
and there will be a massive swing to the Coalition in the final days.

The Coalition needs to hammer this home massively.

Posted by: klien at October 6, 2004 at 11:07 AM

You have mischievously mistaken my campaigning for a prediction tim, but what the heck: like you, I do predict a Labor win, but in the small to comfortable range rather than one of landslide dimensions. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: cs at October 6, 2004 at 11:08 AM

I hope you are wrong too.

Posted by: Kathy K at October 6, 2004 at 11:10 AM

How can CS cross his fingers when, judging by his blog, both hands are permanently occupied whacking off?

Posted by: superboot at October 6, 2004 at 11:42 AM

Generally when I make predictions I make a complete ball up and get it all wrong and the oppsite happens. So bearing that in mind I predict the following:

- Latham to win a Australian election and immediately withdraw troops from Iraq
- Kerry to do likewie after winning a landlide
- Saddam Hussein to win Iraqi elections
- I'm sacked from my job and end up working for much less pay in some terrible new job

Posted by: mike a. at October 6, 2004 at 12:03 PM

Generally when I make predictions I make a complete ball up and get it all wrong and the oppsite happens. So bearing that in mind I predict the following:

- Latham to win a Australian election and immediately withdraw troops from Iraq
- Kerry to do likewie after winning a landlide
- Saddam Hussein to win Iraqi elections
- Margo is appointed Editor of the SMH
- I'm sacked from my job and end up working for much less pay in some terrible new job

Posted by: mike a. at October 6, 2004 at 12:06 PM

Howard to win although I won't be voting for my Lib MP - Andrew Southcott, a safe-seatwarmer if ever there was one. Labor candidate is Chloe (daughter of Mem) Fox, one of the spoilt pseudo-intellectuals who infest the ALP these days. What a poor choice.

If I were in the most marginal Lib-held seat, Adelaide, I'd probably vote for Trish Worth since I'd rather have a moderate voice like hers in government than out.

Hindmarsh too close to call but probably retained by the Libs.

Sadly, Trish Draper (the Member for Makin Whoopee) will probably retain her seat despite being the most deserving of getting tipped out.

Hoping to see Malcolm Turnbull fall on his arse and make a particularly virulent concession speech. Ditto Pauline "Dancin'" Hanson.

Peter Garrett will probably win but it's just more nails for his credibility coffin anyway.

Greens to hold BOP in the Senate possibly with a Family Fist, er, First senator in there as well.

Posted by: GoodFace at October 6, 2004 at 12:08 PM

Coalition to win, I think by more than a narrow margin. Latham presents as nuts (and is).

"Eraser" above seems unaware that unemployment is much lower under the Coaltion than it was under labor.

Posted by: Sue at October 6, 2004 at 12:16 PM

Howard to win. Libs to win Bass, and every other seat in the country to remain status quo.

Posted by: John at October 6, 2004 at 12:18 PM

Labour by alot more than most think.

Latho's looking the goods. Growing in stature. The Rodent, he's a man of the past!

Posted by: Clive at October 6, 2004 at 12:26 PM

Do not despair, dear Tim, the Coalition is bound to win.

Eraser sounded like a 5th columnist to me. He/she would have been better off talking about underemployment, or precarious employment, or the whopping percentage of under 20K PA positions among the jobs created in the last 8 years.

While the Liberals will win I'll tip this smokie -

Labor to win Moore (currently held by Mal Washer). It's not a marginal, but it will fall.

Tanner to lose Melbourne to the Greens.

The Coalition may poll as little as 49% but they will hang in there.

Socialist Alliance to poll less than 0.5% nationwide, and less than 0.05% in Western Australia. Which, given the campaign they've run, is more than they deserve.

Posted by: Giovanni Torre at October 6, 2004 at 12:32 PM

Sue, this is due mainly to the implementation of work for the dole (which im not against) and the increase in part time and casual positions rather than full-time positions (which i am against)...

Posted by: donkey at October 6, 2004 at 12:36 PM

The Coalition are the better for Government. But F*** them! For the first time in my life I am voting Labour all the way.

Howard led a hate campaign against ordinary decent Aussies, stealing our SPORTING TOYS!

Then the slush fund of 'Australians for Honest Politics'... puke. Trying to bring the rest of Australia's standards down to the moral gutter of Labor and Liberal preselections.

To defend my honour, but against all my political and economic beliefs I am voting LABOR.

Posted by: ChrisPer at October 6, 2004 at 12:52 PM


Posted by: rosceo at October 6, 2004 at 01:12 PM

I want Guy Sebastian to win! We luv u Guy!

Posted by: OMG WTF LOL BBQ at October 6, 2004 at 01:19 PM

Coalition to win Bass and Braddon (or Lyons). That will be the difference. Latham will lose the election because of his forestry policy.

The plunge on Michael Ferguson (Lib)in Bass has been Fine Cotton like.

Posted by: Pig Head Sucker at October 6, 2004 at 01:45 PM

am voting Labour all the way

No surprise that people to dumb to spell "Labor" would vote for it.

Posted by: superboot at October 6, 2004 at 01:48 PM

I don't follow Oz politics much, but I'm somewhat familiar with Chris Sheil's work.

If he says "landslide for Latham", then you can rest assured it will be a landslide all right...for Howard.

Posted by: timks at October 6, 2004 at 01:51 PM

Reps: Howard narrowly
Senate: Pauline to have balance of power
Hang on tight!

Posted by: graboy at October 6, 2004 at 02:06 PM


I also live in Boothby about 50 metres from a bulk-billing only doctors surgery. Chloe Fox pamphleted the whole street with anti-Liberal notes implying it was impossible to find a bulk-billing doctor under Howard, leaving most of the people in the apartment complex with a smile on their face. If Ms Fox actaully wanted to represent the electorate, she might start by checking just how close some of them live to the non-existent bulk-billing doctors!

Posted by: Dylan at October 6, 2004 at 02:08 PM

I got $20,000 on good odds on Micheal Ferguson (Lib candidate for Bass) just before I announced the Tasmanian forest policy.

So while Little Johnny goes back to work after the election I'll be off to Vegas with a lazy $100 G's to play with ... Bob might be joining me - he might be tree-hugger, but he sure knows how to shoot craps ...

Posted by: Latho at October 6, 2004 at 02:17 PM

My tips, for what they're worth . . . .

ALP to hang on to Melbourne - I live in the seat, and will be voting Liberal, with 2nd pref to family First and 3rd pref to Greens, just to spite Lindsay Tanner. They won't pick up any more seats in Melbourne. Christian Zahra may hang on to his seat (forgot what it's called), which is notionally Liberal following a redistribution.

ALP may pick up Parramatta, and might help Peter King over the line in Wentworth, which I don't think will upset John Howard too much.

Nothing for the ALP in Qld or WA, but will probably pick up Adelaide in SA.

ALP to lose one or two in Tasmania.

Coalition to win in lower house.

Senate pretty much the same as now . . . . more Greens, fewer Democrats, and probably a Family First senator or two filling in holes otherwise left by Len Harris and Brian Harradine.

Longer term - Howard to hand over to Costello soon after passing Bob Hawke as second-longest serving PM. Likewise, John Anderson hands over to Mark Vaile. Costello, Vaile and Abbott rejuvenate the government. Labour learn that they have to get someone who's actually run something out in front, so they draft Peter Beattie as federal leader and the 2007 election might just be a contest.

Posted by: steve at October 6, 2004 at 02:42 PM

Beattie may be indicted by 2007. He's in deep shit over Greg Maddock topping himself. If the Qld CJC wasn't so tame he'd be facing charges now- my brother is acting for the Maddock family, and there may be a private prosecution of the Cheshire Cat and Terry "apple through a tennis racket" Mackenroth.

Posted by: Habib at October 6, 2004 at 02:57 PM

"We all know that the RBA sets interest rates and theres no way that inflation will increase that much in the short term for interest rates to rise substantially."


The RBA sets rates in response to ecomonomic indicators. So what do you think influences those?

But while we're saying 'Governments don't do nada re interest rates', and 'Howard lies', go look up the impact of Government Bond prices.

Of course Governments can influence interest rates.

Only an ignoramus or a partisan hack would say otherwise.

Posted by: UB Xardox at October 6, 2004 at 03:09 PM

Enmore Station prognosticators see it thus:

Uptight Bastard Joe: ALP by 8
Boy Genius Jeff: Too close to call

Dunno about you, but election time is just another reason to get hammered for mine.

I never over drink, I tell 'em it just evaporates from the glass.


Posted by: Joe at October 6, 2004 at 03:11 PM

Spell Labour any way you want....just as long as you know what it means if Lifelong gets up.

Posted by: TT at October 6, 2004 at 03:12 PM

Habib — "Fairfax OR the maximum security home for the perpetually bewildered"?!

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 6, 2004 at 03:30 PM

I agree with Sue, unemployment has decreased currently at 5.9% well below the 10% levels of the 90's, but can we say that the decrease has come about due to coalition policies or is it due to the economic boom that the howard government has presided over. We all know that in a boom unemployment falls.
What worries me is the increase in teenage unemployment and the long term unemployed. There ae different types of unemployment and the one that has increased is structural unemployment although cyclical unemployment has fallen.
Major labour market reforms have to be introduced in order to increase productivity and demand in the economy to combat this problem. What I'm saying is that the coalitions labour market programs have not worked and its time to try a different approach.

Posted by: Eraser at October 6, 2004 at 04:41 PM

Howard by two this time, Labor up next time.

Posted by: David Blue at October 6, 2004 at 04:57 PM

God.....this is where the nasty little neocon cretins come to curse and howl. Don't worry, you'll all get jobs spruiking for Rupert one day.....Labor by 20.

Posted by: Sean at October 6, 2004 at 05:49 PM

I'm really a loveable neocon cretin Sean.

Posted by: Peter at October 6, 2004 at 06:04 PM

Bet you are Pete, just as I am a little gropable lefty.

This is election is way to close for my liking, time to break out the heavy artillery.

{the wind starts howling, thunder off in the distance, my eyes light up like the rear of a 4WD}

I'm warning the pollsters now.

Don't make me break out the "malocchio curse", ok.

If it looks close I'm going to use it to get Latham up. It's never failed me before and if it gets too close, Johnny is going to cop it.

Save yourself something Collingwood FC has had to endure this year. Sorry Tim, it was me. I've decided to fess up about it. I was at a Swans game and accidentally "malocchioed" them by mistake. I'm a Sydneysider, I hate the Swans. Always next year.

Before you all blame me for Souths, it wasn't me. Someone over at Redfern has been playing with the curse, without parental supervision.

Take a hike Johnny, save yourself the "malocchio".

Posted by: Joe at October 6, 2004 at 06:17 PM

My predictions:

2% swing to ALP, but Coalition retain the majority of their marginal seats. Coalition win by 4 seats. Greens to hold balance of power in the Senate. Family First to pick up 1 Senate Seat on preferences.

Latham to stay on as leader of the ALP. Howard to announce his retirement prior to the next election in October, 2007. Costello to beat Abbott for the Liberal leadership. Latham to be elected to power in 2007 by defeating Costello with a good campaign in the marginals.

AFL: 2005 premiers Port Adelaide, 2006 premiers Brisbane, 2007 premiers Sydney.

NRL: 2005 premiers Roosters, 2006 premiers Bulldogs, 2007 premiers Penrith.

Posted by: bdm at October 6, 2004 at 06:58 PM

Coalition is surging and will win by 24 to 30 seats.

Coalition will pick up 5 in Tasmania and a 10 or so in WA and QLD
Latham will never be Prime Minister. The worst campaign in living memory, this greasy slimy turds will be flushed down the toilet.

Posted by: klein at October 6, 2004 at 09:48 PM

Predictions are useless, with most just trying to big-note themselves by being Mr Nostradamus.

Having read this thread, I won't make any new prediction, but I do prefer this analysis over others.

I hope Steve is proved right.

Posted by: ilibcc at October 6, 2004 at 10:14 PM

Interesting to see how the tips on the Independents pan out.

But, going by Andrens 25% in Calare, and neither Katter nor the other one who I have forgotten will lose their seat.

Can't see King getting in.

Posted by: Andy at October 6, 2004 at 11:30 PM

All of these opinions and predictions are interesting and well-considered, but if Kucinich wins I'll be one rich dude.

Posted by: Ken Summers at October 7, 2004 at 01:03 AM

If little Johnny makes it again Im leaving the country. Sorry, John but you will not increase our technically skilled until you improve our lot. We're screwed to the wall now.
Labor by 2

Posted by: Ice B at October 7, 2004 at 03:03 AM

I hope Labor can pull this one out. 8 years of 'Honest' John is 8 years too much. If he wins again it will be a black day IMO.

Posted by: ILRed at October 7, 2004 at 04:48 AM

thanks for the link. must have been becos I sneered at a prominent Margo booster a short while ago ;-)

Posted by: mister z at October 7, 2004 at 09:38 AM

Neat post. It's amazing to see how each pundit's hopes and fears affect their predictions - some a lot, some not much.

Posted by: Alan Green at October 7, 2004 at 10:21 AM

It is about time Labor got in, Mark Latham is young, fresh and Positive. There are so many things I cannot stand about John Howard,
Where do I start? Here is my top ten.
1. Implimentation of GST
2. Uneccesary War in Iraq
3. Dreadful treatment of refugees in detention centres and allowing Australian detainees overseas to remain in prison without being charged.
4. The Children Overboard scandal
5. Policy to ruin the Forests of Tasmania
6 Constant ability to 'omit the truth from important issues.'
7. Constant sucking up and getting into the political bed with George Bush. This is Australia not the United States of Australia!
8. Funding of rich schools.
9. The desire to sell off Telstra and,
10. The erosion of Medicare.
Need I say any more!

Posted by: Helen Houghton at October 7, 2004 at 03:18 PM

9. The desire to sell off Telstra

That's bad? Wow, there are actually people who prefer their phone company to be a money-grubbing, state owned monopolist rather than a private one exposed to and forced to respond to market forces?

Posted by: PW at October 7, 2004 at 03:30 PM

people are too dump tp understand john howard brought terrorist threat to australia and now there is no way out.

Posted by: sweety at October 7, 2004 at 03:44 PM

Not another word needed, Helen- you've convinced me that John Winston's the man!

Posted by: Habib at October 7, 2004 at 03:44 PM

Pray tell, Sweetie, whre is this "dump tp"? Is it a native-american inspired hippy residence in the middle of the Kyogle municipal refuse tip? I know Howard is harsh on welfare cheats, but to send terrorists to attack their humble hovels is a bit rich- i may have to rethink my voting decision.

Posted by: Habib at October 7, 2004 at 03:48 PM

I live in the marginal seat of Greenway in Sydney's north west. Last election you would have classed this area west but now there are thousand's of "McMansion's" being built in the area. Ed Husic the labor candidate is pretty much unknown in the area. Hes sent about 5 leaflets whereas the Liberal Candidate Louise Markus has sent a few a week. Another advantage for liberal is that Greenway is fast becoming the bible belt of Sydney. Louise Markus is a prominent member in the local Hillsong Church which has tens of thousands of members. And after saying all this i would bet this once very safe labor seat will go liberal and it was just the other week that shadow defence minister and former opposition leader, Kim Beazley said "If we dont win Greenway, we will lose the election" therefore i say the Coalition will win the election

Posted by: john parker at October 7, 2004 at 05:39 PM