August 12, 2004

A BALANCED VIEW

Noted madman Richard Neville writes:

Truly, America is the most bloodthirsty nation on the face of post Stalin earth. Itís military, itís government, its corporate carpetbaggers are sinking into such a swamp of deceit, denial and depravity that fair minded people the world over, including its own better informed citizens, can but recoil in horror. Itís as if the heart of darkness has become an American franchise, a Satanís Starbucks, specialising in torture, invasions, illegal incarcerations, aerial bombardment (wedding parties a specialty) and war crimes.

Side dishes include cluster bombs, Geneva Convention busting, mini nukes and Ė in the words of disillusioned marines - "shooting anything that moves", often women and children. Military outlets ring the globe and will shortly span the stars. Its movie & media industry is, for the most part, a relentless engine of propaganda.

(Via Tex, who reminds readers: "Richard isn't just some conspirazoid headcase on the web. This idiot is actually a well-known and respected media commentator." All true, despite his problem with "it's".)

Posted by Tim Blair at August 12, 2004 09:01 PM
Comments

"Satan's Starbucks"

Cool. I'd go there. I'll bet they make one hell of a double espresso.

Posted by: Conrad at August 12, 2004 at 09:12 PM

"This idiot is actually a well-known and respected media commentator."

I guess sanity isn't one of the job requirements for media commentator.

Looking at his website I'd swear he was a founding member of the tinfoil hat brigade.

Posted by: Chris Josephson at August 12, 2004 at 10:01 PM

It doesn't get much better than a "media commentator" seriously asserting that Hollywood and the media are the Bush administration's propaganda wing, that's for sure. Maybe he should stop watching that perpetual loop of F9/11 so reality has at least a small chance of entering his consciousness.

Posted by: PW at August 12, 2004 at 10:28 PM

Its movie & media industry is, for the most part, a relentless engine of propaganda.>/i>

I'm still laughing!!

Posted by: c at August 12, 2004 at 10:30 PM

Newk Neville the slimy little prick.One of those neat little next gen neuclear bombs will do the trick.

Posted by: gubbaboy at August 12, 2004 at 10:32 PM

Neville is well-known, but I doubt he's respected anywhere outside the Sydney Morning Herald.

That's the paper that accommodates Margo's Zionist conspiracy theories.

Posted by: The Mongrel at August 12, 2004 at 10:41 PM

What a tragic condition this fellow must be in to write with such despair. How sad.

Posted by: zzx375 at August 12, 2004 at 10:44 PM

... and he can't punctuate to save his life. Somebody should tell him the difference between its and it's.

Posted by: PJ at August 12, 2004 at 10:57 PM

... oh, wait, somebody had already noticed that. Sorry.

Posted by: PJ at August 12, 2004 at 10:58 PM

If only idiots like him knew the long discussion I sat through the other day with a marine who was saddened because the militia are using people's houses and cars (with people in them) to fight and our marines are facing a moral dilemma because they don't want to hurt innocent Iraqis. I explained to this marine that the difference between us and them is that he would even hesitate for one minute to protect an innocent. The terrorists would not. It pisses me off that someone who writes like that is a 'respected' media person - but it doesn't surprise me.

Luckily having 140,000 soldiers in Iraq - that means a whole bunch of family members stationed around the world know better. But I'm sure it hurts them to read such bullsh*t from uninformed people.

Posted by: Kathleen A at August 12, 2004 at 11:10 PM

"[M]ost bloodthirsty nation on post Stalin earth"? Am I the only one who hasn't forgotten Mao & Co.? Poor Richard needs to read something beyond the almanac.

Posted by: chris in st. louis at August 12, 2004 at 11:11 PM

The True Price of Liberty - That no level of idiocy disqualifies one from voicing an opinion worth less than the electrical impulse it took to generate it.

I love liberty and all but... damn Richard, that's steep.

Posted by: fidens at August 12, 2004 at 11:32 PM

Its movie & media industry is, for the most part, a relentless engine of propaganda.

WTF? Can anyone name a pro-Bush movie that has come out any time in the last few years? These people are in an echo chamber.

Posted by: Crusader at August 12, 2004 at 11:59 PM

Now, a nuclear cluster bomb - that would be cool.

Posted by: R C Dean at August 13, 2004 at 12:02 AM

Requirements for being a media commentator seem to have gone down recently. Richard Neville can suck my white American ass.

Posted by: swassociates at August 13, 2004 at 12:15 AM

Side dishes include cluster bombs, Geneva Convention busting,

$100 says he can't name another country besides the US that actually abided by the Geneva Convention rules of warfare since they were written.

Posted by: Roger Bournival at August 13, 2004 at 12:42 AM

"Its movie & media industry is, for the most part, a relentless engine of propaganda."

Very true. ANTI-American propaganda, but propaganda nonetheless.

Oh, and I are an engineer but even *I* how to use apostrophes.

Posted by: Gary and the Samoyeds at August 13, 2004 at 12:46 AM

Roger the US was not a signatory to the document so it does not have to abide by them.

Clearly this "journalist" is a bigoted idiot. I mean these few paragraphs they are actually funny.

Posted by: Andrew Ian Dodge at August 13, 2004 at 12:48 AM

I donít find them funny. I find them beyond sadÖ.into frightening.

Because I know not just the willingness of many free people to believe such crap, but, a subtle but significant difference, the craven and passionate HUNGER of people to believe this crapÖ. an almost sexual need to do so.

For it tells me that, though I believe freedom in America is so embedded as to be secure, freedom on this planet may have reached itís apogee. As it is rolled back, millionsÖ.. MILLIONS of free people on earth will shrug their shoulders, or even snicker at an idea itself.. ďgetting itís commuppanceĒ or whatever.

And the USA will NEVER be strong enough to secure freedom for such people. Never. We are approaching a time when we will decide it is immoral to do so. And such people will liveÖ.. and they will dieÖ. with the consequences. As will their children.

And by the way, a huge step in that direction will take place over the next two weeks, after the Athens festival of anti-Americanism is done. You watch.

Posted by: Andrew X at August 13, 2004 at 01:05 AM

"nuclear cluster bomb - that would be cool"
MIRV

Posted by: Rob Read at August 13, 2004 at 01:07 AM

From his websit'e, an essay tha't begins with this:

"Itís all around us, isnít it? More than ever in our face and on the news, and Iím not just talking about famine, war and ailing friends. "

This isn't writing; this is dictation.

Posted by: Lileks at August 13, 2004 at 01:08 AM

"that fair minded people the world over, including its own better informed citizens"

This is a way of making sure people that think they are well informed and fair minded (and who doesn't?) don't do any fact checking.

I think that's why you see a lot of people here who have jobs where you constantly have to check your mistakes (i.e. engineers, IT, physics) whereas the Arts are over-represented on the surrender to Islam side.

Posted by: Rob Read at August 13, 2004 at 01:11 AM

America is the most bloodthirsty nation on the face of post Stalin earth

Let me see, post Stalin, that would be from the mid fifties onwards.

In no particular order:
1) Mao and his merry friends.
2) Pol Pot and the Murder of one third of the Cambodian Nation.
3) Saddam's Iraq, Two invasions of Neighbours, gasing of Civilians, Torture.
4) Argentina's dirty war.
5) Syria: Deaths of tens of thousands of opponents, support for terrorists including Hamas, PKK and others, Invasion of Israel several times.
6) Rwanda: A million people macheteed to death.
7) Russia / Soviet Union, Prague 1968, Afghanistan, Chechnia, The Gulag.

I could keep going all day, but it would be a little difficult to place the USA ahead of these examples without a brain as twisted as Chomsky's.

Posted by: Jon at August 13, 2004 at 01:35 AM

When any criticism of Islam is officially verboten, the plebs' anger has got to be turned somewhere. Both America and Israel serve as the publicly sanctioned scapegoats.

It's a pity the likes of Neville don't learn to judge other countries and other peoples by the same standards they judge America and its citizens. They might even begin to notice places like the Sudan.

Posted by: Blue Beard at August 13, 2004 at 01:40 AM

This effete little fucker needs to get out more (no, not out of the closet) but to places like Aceh and West Papua, Darfur in West Sudan, Chinese occupied Tibet, Chechnya, North Korea and Zimbabwe just to name a few. I know exploiting the dead in these conflicts is not nearly as fashionable for someone so shallow, and there's no anti-U.S. fun to be had but gee, all these murdered people are just going to waste Richard!!!
YOU UGLY CUNT! And that last remark is no more shocking than his outrageous demonisation of an entire nation of people!

Posted by: Brian. at August 13, 2004 at 02:03 AM

Bigoted demonization, plain and simple. I half expected him to offer a 'final solution' to the 'American problem.'

Re-write this with the Religion of Peace franchising suicide bomb outlets and sharia and you'd be accused of inciting the mythical 'anti-Muslim' backlash.

Posted by: Cosmo at August 13, 2004 at 02:07 AM

Speaking of wierd mutants, Tim, what's the story on those giant mutant ants burrowing beneath Melbourne? Any sign of James Arness yet?

Posted by: mojo at August 13, 2004 at 02:19 AM

Dear Mr. Neville,
To paraphrase former Dallas Cowboys football coach Jimmy Johnson when told by someone that the hapless opposing team was upset by him running up the score.
"Well, if they don't like it they should stop us from scoring."
God, it's great being a cowboy Texan!

Posted by: BC at August 13, 2004 at 02:21 AM

(You forgot something, Lilek's.)

Posted by: c at August 13, 2004 at 02:23 AM

Richard Neville is correct.
1)...in the words of disillusioned marines - "shooting anything that moves"...

2)...movie & media industry is, for the most part, a relentless engine of propaganda...

1+2= this .

Posted by: BC at August 13, 2004 at 02:37 AM

Actually, there is a bit of good news here. When a frothing Leftist admits that Stalin's regime was bloodthirsty, this is progress, is it not?

Posted by: c at August 13, 2004 at 02:56 AM

Forget Neville. As with Margo, he too is on the hydro'.

They probably have the same dealer - who's a fascist.

Posted by: jafa at August 13, 2004 at 03:50 AM

I think this is by an order of magnitude the funniest thing I have read in some time. I had a girlfriend in college who broke down that way one time at me, but she was totally drunk, PMS and I had been caught fooling around with another girl when I was rowing at the head of the charles.

Which basically appears to be this guys state of mind 24/7.

This guy is special. Thank you, Tim

"A little sunshine in a dull newscycle"--the new spleenville motto....

Posted by: rod at August 13, 2004 at 03:56 AM

Most of you are too young, but John Kerry and I remember that little Vietnam dust up. The same kind of rhetoric oozed out of the left then, too (in fact, as I recall, John Kerry was the author of some of it). In times of great conflict (like now), the rocks get rattled, and all sorts of things crawl out. I don't know whether to be relieved that this is all it is, or disheartened that this same kind of crap still goes on.

Posted by: Rebecca at August 13, 2004 at 04:09 AM

I'm not familiar with Neville, but why do I get the impression that he's the type of guy who would have written the same article 50 years ago if anyone had dared defame Stalin? The only change would have been to put the word "Hitler" in place of the word "Stalin".

Posted by: timks at August 13, 2004 at 05:41 AM

In reviewing my post above, I should make clear that this man's nodding aqucaintance with reality is only trumped by his hatred for the US.

I suspect he will be running the Guardian soon enough and get a job at harper's magazine.

Posted by: rod at August 13, 2004 at 05:59 AM

The little bastard is on to us! But too late, too late! Dubya gets another 4 years - it's in the contract. Bwahahaa...

Posted by: Satan at August 13, 2004 at 06:15 AM

Jeebus. What a douche!

Posted by: BarCodeKing at August 13, 2004 at 06:40 AM

I always thought folks in this state should get away for a few months or years to either a Soviet gulag or Vietnamese re-education camp in order to put things in prespective again.

Posted by: J_Crater at August 13, 2004 at 06:42 AM

"I always thought folks in this state should get away for a few months or years to either a Soviet gulag or Vietnamese re-education camp in order to put things in prespective again."

I've had the same thoughts. I think residing in one of the 'less bloodthirsty' countries for about a year would do people like this some good. I'd suggest the Sudan or N. Korea for a start.

There is always the possibility though that people like him are so out of touch with reality that they'd look upon such countries as peaceful paradises.

Posted by: Chris Josephson at August 13, 2004 at 07:22 AM

Richard Neville was one of a trio of loveable scamps who achieved fame in the 1960's by challenging censorship with magazine called "Oz."
He's been living off it since then.

Posted by: david at August 13, 2004 at 07:44 AM

So has Starbuck's officially replaced McDonald's as Most Hated Symbol Of American Hegemony?

You know what I hate? Tune-Up Masters. They're everywhere. Fuckers.

Okay, so maybe they're only everywhere in the US, but so what? If Neville's thrown logic, facts, and consistency out the window why should I have to make sense, huh?

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at August 13, 2004 at 08:03 AM

despite his problem with "it's".

God, that is one of my pet peeves. Someone said (I think it was a guitarist in a heavy metal band) that if the US were imperialist then Canada would be the 51st state.

Posted by: Cool Tester at August 13, 2004 at 08:21 AM

I could keep going all day, but it would be a little difficult to place the USA ahead of these examples without a brain as twisted as Chomsky's.

Are you kidding me?

1) Mao and his merry friends.
Had to be done to save the Revolution from millions of counter-revolutionaries, all paid by the CIA!

2) Pol Pot and the Murder of one third of the Cambodian Nation.
Brutality necessary to show US that Cambodia was not a pushover, like Vietnam!

3) Saddam's Iraq, Two invasions of Neighbours, gasing of Civilians, Torture.
The CIA installed Saddam! Encouraged him to beat up on Iran! Arranged for him to invade Kuwait so the US could steal all the oil!

4) Argentina's dirty war.
Incited by CIA!

5) Syria: Deaths of tens of thousands of opponents, support for terrorists including Hamas, PKK and others, Invasion of Israel several times.
Syria provoked by unflagging support of Israel!

6) Rwanda: A million people macheteed to death.
The US stood by and did nothing!

7) Russia / Soviet Union, Prague 1968, Afghanistan, Chechnia, The Gulag.
A necessary response to US militarism!

Halliburton! PNAC! Imperialism! Capitalism! Globalization! Isolationism! Racism! Ia! Ia!

Posted by: Angie Schultz at August 13, 2004 at 08:23 AM

Cool Tester,

Jon Schaffer of Iced Earth to a Canadian interviewer:

"Do you think 9/11 will be viewed as the first event in the US empire's decline and fall?"

"No. This is not an empire, first of all. If the United States was an empire, your country would be our 51st state."

Posted by: c at August 13, 2004 at 08:30 AM

God. Canada as the 51st state. The mind boggles at the thought.

Really. Think about it. Marching across the 49th Parallel to occupy Quebec? Or even (shudder!!!) Ottawa???? And all of those Canadian $2 coins....we can't even use the $1 coins the Treasury Department keeps on foisting off on us. What we would do then?

I'd rather occupy Antarctica -- the trip is longer and the weather sucks, but there few loonies down there.

Posted by: The Real JeffS at August 13, 2004 at 09:01 AM

It's truly amazing who gets to be a well-known and respected media commentator these days. Well, well known anyway.

Posted by: Miranda Divide at August 13, 2004 at 10:04 AM

G'day Miranda,

That was actually a cogent and valid comment - aren't you feeling very well.

Posted by: Russell at August 13, 2004 at 10:26 AM

Iraq 4 Portugal 2!!!

Watching soccer on TV, relaxing, downing a couple of pints...of blood!!!
(Well, I was thirsty.)

Go Iraq! Go USA! And kudos to the Aussie military for flying the Iraqi squad to Athens.

The community of nations who actually give a toss about Iraq and it's people (e.g. certainly not the Left) will continue to support you.

Posted by: JDB at August 13, 2004 at 10:50 AM

c:

Do you have a link for the Jon Schaffer quote?
Thanks.

Posted by: m at August 13, 2004 at 10:50 AM

Thank fuck I'm on the side of the good guys and having a great time.

Cheers

Posted by: Razor at August 13, 2004 at 11:25 AM
You know what I hate? Tune-Up Masters. They're everywhere. Fuckers.

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at August 13, 2004 at 08:03 AM

Darn it, Steve! You made me spew a Satanic Starbucks™' Brimstone Blend™ double dark espresso with extra cayenne right out my nose! YYYYEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOWWWWWWWW!!!!!!! ;-)

Posted by: Mary in LA at August 13, 2004 at 11:32 AM

m,

I am too mentally deficient to do a proper link. Could you try this? (I sent this article to my daughter whose friend is a heavy metal lead guitarist.)

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:TxhJ4NvXk1wJ:www.bravewords.com/features.html%3Fid%3D1000306+%22Iced+Earth+controversy%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Posted by: c at August 13, 2004 at 11:33 AM

I'd rather occupy Antarctica -- the trip is longer and the weather sucks, but there few loonies down there

Oi ! Hands off you Imperialist Bastards, thats ours !

Posted by: aussie at August 13, 2004 at 11:43 AM

"And all of those Canadian $2 coins....we can't even use the $1 coins.."

True. But I must say I love the colors (or colours) on their paper money. Much nicer than our own.

Another down side to Canada being our 51st state are the rabid lefties. If we were to combine the voting power of Canada's rabid lefties with our own in the US, we may have a problem. The US *plus* Canadian lefties may have sufficient numbers to do to the US what they've done to Canada. (I shudder at the thought.)

"Go Iraq! Go USA! And kudos to the Aussie military for flying the Iraqi squad to Athens."

Great to have the Aussie military do that for the Iraqis. They'll be competing for the first time, in recent memory, without thinking of the torture chambers back home.

We're big fans of many of the Summer Olympic events in my house. We watch live, when we can and tape to watch later when we can't. We've always rooted for the US, but this year we're rooting for any of the teams from the coalition.
(Plus Iraq, of course.)

Posted by: Chris Josephson at August 13, 2004 at 11:58 AM

Neville thus eliminates comparatives for: if U.S. `is most...', then what does he make of castro,North Korea, Mugabe's Zimbabwe, and what of Saddam's regime?

Leftoids simply don't make the error of moral equivalence, they deomstrate that they are immoral such savages is fit to describe them.

Perhaps Neville would care to live in North Kora or Cuba for a few decades, soak up their peacy and harmony and plenty. Or, live in Zimbabwe, there he can discover all the delights in a matter of months, not any longer - no need, by then he most likely would have been murdered.

Posted by: d at August 13, 2004 at 12:17 PM

Continuing, in blythely comparing U.S. and, by inference Bush to Satlin, Neville demonstatrates what a through bit of nasty shit he his, including effectively spitting upon the tens of millions Stalin and his fellow commies had murdered , directly or forced starvation. Neville is spineless, commie hugging bit of garbage whose views aren't fit to print on even mere bum wipers aka toilet paper. He should find a sewer and flush himslef into it.

Posted by: d at August 13, 2004 at 12:21 PM

Mr. Neville: "It's [It is] as if the heart of darkness has become an American franchise..."

Tex: (endorsed by Tim):

"(Via Tex, who reminds readers: "Richard isn't just some conspirazoid headcase on the web. This idiot is actually a well-known and respected media commentator." All true, despite his problem with "it's".)"

Shame on you Tim. You are in error about Mr. Neville's grammar here.

See Strunk and White, "The Elements of Style". The 1918 edition is on the web. http://sut1.sut.ac.th/strunk/strunk.html#1

"The pronominal possessives hers, its, theirs, yours, and oneself have no apostrophe."

it's = contraction of "it is"
its = the possesive

Ok, so I'm a bleeping grammarian, and cursing Aussies will pour their lagers over me. Yet I'll wear the label with pride. And I'm prepared to participate in the firing squad for Mr. Neville --but I insist that the charge sheet be correct first, old boy.

Posted by: Paul H. at August 13, 2004 at 12:24 PM

Shame on you Tim. You are in error about Mr. Neville's grammar here.

The sentence you quoted probably wasn't the one Tim was referring to

Neville: Truly, America is the most bloodthirsty nation on the face of post Stalin earth. Itís military, itís government, its corporate carpetbaggers ...

Posted by: PW at August 13, 2004 at 12:47 PM

Hmm, insert period after "referring to". (It's just my typing that sucks, not my grammar, I swear.)

Posted by: PW at August 13, 2004 at 12:49 PM

As for Pol Pot, his murderous regime was officially recognised by Gough Whitlam's Labor government. Neville was then and still is a doting worshiper of the Great One - so don't expect him to mention Pol Pot in harsh terms.

Posted by: graboy at August 13, 2004 at 12:52 PM

Paul H., you're looking at the wrong 'its'.

Posted by: ilibcc at August 13, 2004 at 01:05 PM

Neville also refers to Hiroshimar although I can't believe I read down that far.

The man is a lunatic. There must be more lunatics per capita in Australia than anywhere else on earth. The place is fair dripping with them.

Posted by: ilibcc at August 13, 2004 at 01:14 PM

Quite right. For some reason I missed the earlier incorrect usages.

Charge sheet amended to include egregious grammar errors. Lock and load.

Posted by: Paul H. at August 13, 2004 at 01:38 PM

In an effort to justify their existence, the media love to talk about their "well-respected" commentators and Walkely Award-winning journalists, as though these somehow equate with winning the Nobel Peace Price. About as bizarre as referring to well-respected and award-winning used-car salesmen.

Posted by: Freddyboy at August 13, 2004 at 02:20 PM

Sorry, that was a slur on used-car dealers, who at least have a code of conduct and have now cleaned up their act, a bit.

Posted by: Freddyboy at August 13, 2004 at 02:21 PM

Neville really should dig a little bit deeper into things before speaking up. I read most of his shite, which if one did not know better could be taken as gospel.

As an example, General Groves really did not know about the impact of radiation fallout on humans. Afterall, would it have been suggested to use Atomic bombs on the invasion beaches of Kyushu just prior to the troops coming ashore, if the fallout was known of?

As to the Japs that croaked it, I don't give a stuff. Better them than the troops wading ashore, or those poor bastards still alive and held in captivity.

Posted by: Lofty at August 13, 2004 at 03:12 PM

As a true-blue American I must say that even puppy-blended shakes don't do it for me anymore...if I don't have a third-world-blood pick-me-up I can't even get out of the bed in the morning.

This idiot is actually a well-known and respected media commentator.
Fooled me, from the graphics on his website and his commentary he sure looks like a loon.

God. Canada as the 51st state. The mind boggles at the thought.
One big problem: it would be like East Germany finally joining with West Germany...the economy would tank.
The Northern Hinterland can stay hinter.

Speaking of wierd mutants, Tim, what's the story on those giant mutant ants burrowing beneath Melbourne?
Good question! Maybe you'd like to stick around after the convention, rather than going back to what sounds like Antstralia. I'm looking right now for a nice one bedroom apartment, but would consider a two bedroom w/roomate, no didgeridoo past midnight.

Posted by: Timothy Lang at August 13, 2004 at 03:42 PM

You betcha our economy would tank, Timothy! All those danged $2 Canadian loonies flooding the place -- it'd be like issuing the Susan B. Anthony dollar coin all over again.

Not twice as bad, though, given the current US-Canadian exchange rate.

Posted by: The Real JeffS at August 13, 2004 at 04:50 PM

R C Dean ó a nuclear cluster bomb? Read Hell's Faire by John Ringo: "That's what happens when you let rednecks play with antimatter, bos..." The whole series is highly recommended, starting with A Hymn Before Battle...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 13, 2004 at 04:59 PM

Jon: Numbers 2, 3 and 4 on your list of bloodthirsty examples were heartily supported by the US. I disagree with Loony Neville on this as well, but surely you see the irony of your list?

Posted by: fatfingers at August 13, 2004 at 05:56 PM

Welcome back fatfingers! Any knew information from anti-semites like whatreallyhappened.com that you think we need to be enlightened about?

Posted by: Quentin George at August 13, 2004 at 09:42 PM

> Walkely Award-winning journalists, as though these somehow equate with winning the Nobel Peace Prize

Apart from the money and the trip to Sweden, what's the difference?

The Peace Prize gets much better press than the list of winners would justify. Jimmy Carter? Yassar Arafat? I'm surprised that they haven't given one to Castro.

Posted by: Andy Freeman at August 14, 2004 at 01:33 AM

He gets "its" and his "facts" right once when he says "Its movie & media industry is, for the most part, a relentless engine of propaganda."

Posted by: Sissy Willis at August 14, 2004 at 02:11 AM

Real JeffS - the Canadian $2 coins are called "toonies." Geddit, huh? Two Loonies?

I shichu not. The Washington State Ferries have signes saying they don't accept Canadian money except for loonies and toonies. So I asked.

Those wacky Canadians! Or, as I like to refer to them, "Canards."

Posted by: Steve Skubinna at August 14, 2004 at 07:33 AM

"Toonies", not "loonies", huh! My bad -- it's been a while since I was last in Canada.

Posted by: The Real JeffS at August 14, 2004 at 07:54 AM

We don't accept no coins with pictures of ugly beavers on 'em. And the reverse side is pretty bad too...

Posted by: mojo at August 14, 2004 at 08:32 AM

Another piece of lab work confirming what we long suspected: Bush hatred causes paranoia in loons.

Posted by: Michael at August 15, 2004 at 04:50 AM

This sub-thread brings new meaning to the phrase "funny money"...............

Posted by: The Real JeffS at August 15, 2004 at 07:08 AM

Obviously, the only way we can redeem ourselves in the eyes of the world is by electing a President who makes up imaginary CIA missions and firefights in neutral countries! Only John Kerry can save us from global scorning!

Posted by: richard mcenroe at August 15, 2004 at 11:50 AM

I've bought well-respected and award-winning used-cars. The salesmen I bought them thru were scuzzbuckets.

Posted by: triticale at August 15, 2004 at 12:00 PM