July 20, 2004

WHY WON'T SHE COME TO HER SENSES?

Seventies musical identity and former gubernatorial love toy Linda Ronstadt wows 'em in Vegas:

Singer Linda Ronstadt not only got booed, she got the boot after lauding filmmaker Michael Moore and his new movie "Fahrenheit 9/11" during a performance at the Aladdin hotel-casino.

Before singing "Desperado" for an encore Saturday night, the 58-year-old rocker called Moore a "great American patriot" and "someone who is spreading the truth." She also encouraged everybody to see the documentary about President Bush.

Ronstadt's comments drew loud boos and some of the 4,500 people in attendance stormed out of the theater. People also tore down concert posters and tossed cocktails into the air.

"It was a very ugly scene," Aladdin President Bill Timmins told The Associated Press. "She praised him and all of a sudden all bedlam broke loose."

Timmins, who is British, had Ronstadt escorted from the premises and vowed she’ll never perform at the Aladdin again. The British seem to have a particular dislike of Moore.

This is the second time Ronstadt’s dissent has provoked crushing. Her upcoming shows in Fort Worth (September 14/15) should be something to see.

(Via reader Andre Stein)

UPDATE. Apparently the hate wasn’t so great:

My wife & I were at the Linda Ronstadt performance in question, at the Aladdin in Las Vegas, and quite frankly, Aladdin President Bill Timmins' account of what happened is complete crap. There was mixed booing and cheering at Ronstadt's pro-Michael Moore comment, and that was about the extent of the "bedlam" that supposedly broke out. I saw no posters being torn down or cocktails being thrown in the air, and if people stomped out of the theatre unhappy, it was because 1) that was the last song Ronstadt performed; it was her encore; and 2) she mainly sang her standards repertoire, with the Nelson Riddle orchestrations, and a large part of the crowd wanted to hear more of her rock-'n'-roll stuff; she got the biggest round of applause for doing a lackadaisical run-through of her version of "Blue Bayou."

UPDATE II. The Publicity Desperado sends an open letter to Bill Timmins:

For you to throw Linda Ronstadt off the premises because she dared to say a few words in support of me and my film, is simply stupid and Un-American. Frankly, I have never heard of such a thing happening. I read that you wouldn't even let her go back up to her room at your hotel! Are you crazy? For crying out loud, it was a song DEDICATION! To "Desperado!" Every American loves that song! Sure, some people didn't like the dedication, and that's their right. But neither they nor you have the right to remove her from your building when all she did was exercise her AMERICAN right to speak her mind.

I think you owe Ms. Ronstadt an apology. And I have an idea how you can make it up to her -- and to the millions of Americans you have offended. Invite her back and I'll join her in singing "America the Beautiful" on your stage. Then I will show "Fahrenheit 9/11" free of charge to all your guests and anyone else in Las Vegas who wants to see it.

UPDATE III. Ms Ronstadt is such a nice lady:

It's a real conflict for me when I go to a concert and find out somebody in the audience is a Republican or fundamental Christian. It can cloud my enjoyment. I'd rather not know.

Ronstadt also claims that the US "looks like (Germany's) Weimar Republic to me." She’s old enough to know.

Posted by Tim Blair at July 20, 2004 12:24 PM
Comments

She's clearly doing this because it's the only way the audience will sit up and listen. Even booing is better than indifference.

Posted by: Hanyu at July 20, 2004 at 12:41 PM

weather you agree or not with a performer,
i will not pay hard earned money to listen to
their point of view. i go to see the performer.
she was very wrong. i lost ALL respect for
michael moore at the academy awards in 2003.
go to a rally to vent.
coming soon to a theater
michaelmoorehatesamerica.com
click on filmmakers journey
moorewatch.com
moorelies.com


mooreexposed.com

Posted by: andrea/minnesota at July 20, 2004 at 12:43 PM

I want to know why Linda Ronstadt of all people thought her audience would be receptive to fawnings over Moore. She's a country singer, for Pete's sake. Her fans are the people who bulldozed the Dixie Chicks, remember? Elton John or Phish aren't going to inspire any mass walkouts with stunts like this; but hell, Larry the Cable Guy has more common sense about how to read his audience.

Posted by: Brian Tiemann at July 20, 2004 at 12:47 PM

OT: I don't know how anybody else here feels about it but...andrea/minnesota, do you really need to put those anti-Moore URLs into every single post of yours? There's plenty of condemnation of ol' Mikey here already, spamming for those sites (however good your intentions) strikes me as somewhat misguided.

Posted by: PW at July 20, 2004 at 01:02 PM

Poor Linda she has been on the outer (musically and politically) ever since the days of Gov. Jerry Brown.

And the Dead Kennedy's stuck it to him - California Uber Alles.

Posted by: Craig G at July 20, 2004 at 01:08 PM

Have you considered another possibility...that the crowd started booing and rioting when she announced she was about to sing "Desperado"? That would send most people I know, myself included, over the edge.

Posted by: tim g at July 20, 2004 at 02:05 PM

There was an actual audience for the 58-year-old baby boomer 'rocker'?

The encore 'Desperado' was clearly dedicated to them.

Posted by: ilibcc at July 20, 2004 at 02:08 PM

You want "Rock and Roll" from Linda?
Try "Canciones de mi Padre" on Asylum. You have to
like Mexican music. She may piss me off with her
politics, but she has a beautiful glottal break.

Posted by: Mike H. at July 20, 2004 at 02:29 PM

Apparently the crowd danced to the beat of a different drum.
Were they Stoned ponies?

Posted by: Homer Paxton at July 20, 2004 at 02:34 PM

They weren't booing Linda. They were booing the boo-ers. And I'm almost positive that some of them were saying "Boo-urns."

Posted by: Sean M. at July 20, 2004 at 02:37 PM

Mr. Plow is a loser,
And I think he is a boozer
So you'd better make that call to the Plow King

... all the Linda Ronstadt I know.

Posted by: Crispytoast at July 20, 2004 at 02:38 PM

I didn't realise she still alive. Why wasn't she at Oprah's(50th)Birthday Bash, along with Tina Turner, Stevie Wonder and all the oher old crocks. Oh, I know, at 60 she was probably too young.

Posted by: Freddyboy at July 20, 2004 at 02:42 PM

andrea/minnesota:

You know, we all know about the MMHA movie, and I'm eagerly awaiting to see it myself. So, maybe, you could stop signing every post with it?

Posted by: Sortelli at July 20, 2004 at 02:50 PM

50th)Birthday Bash, along with Tina Turner, Stevie Wonder and all the oher old crocks.

Freddieboy....does Mommy know your playing with the computer again?

Posted by: U.R. Conscience at July 20, 2004 at 03:34 PM

What, crispy, you don't know the spanish version?

Senor Plow no es macho
Solamente es borracho...

Posted by: Sean M. at July 20, 2004 at 03:52 PM

FreddyBoy — Don't be talkin' down in your throat 'bout Tina, now...

Sortelli... ah, because she moderates this blog? 'sides, I just finished reading Michael Moore Is A Big Fat Stupid White Man and he really deserves kicking...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 20, 2004 at 04:04 PM

5000 people were there, according to a reporter sent to cover/critique the show, hundreds left.

And she was not in good form.

Posted by: Sandy P at July 20, 2004 at 04:16 PM

Michael Moore is now offering to show his film free of charge viewing to "anyone else in Las Vegas who wants to see it".

While I'm not keen on seeing the film, Vegas is nice this time of year and it would be a pleasure to force Moore to keep his word and show the film for free.

Pack your bags kids, we're going to Vegas Brady Style.

Posted by: The Hamster at July 20, 2004 at 05:19 PM

Are you saying "Boo" or "Boo-urns?"

"Booo!!!"


"I was saying Boo-urns..."

Posted by: Quentin George at July 20, 2004 at 05:32 PM

Richard--The Andrea that moderates this blog knows how to use her shift key. :)

Posted by: Sortelli at July 20, 2004 at 10:52 PM

Richard McEnroe: I also know how to punctuate, and I sign my name "Andrea Harris," and I've never been to Minnesota in my life.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at July 20, 2004 at 10:55 PM

Most amusing this...Desperado is a damn good song and to have her use it to praise Moore is rather disgusting. I wonder why musicians like this silly moo think anyone cares what their dumb-arse political thoughts are. She is listened to her music (some of which is not bad) not her insights into current affairs.

Posted by: Andrew Ian Dodge at July 20, 2004 at 11:44 PM

I don't mind Andrea in Mn attaching those links to her posts. A first time visitor might see them, and investigate further. Let's treat our own side with a little more consideration, PW? Cheers, By

Posted by: Byron_the_Aussie at July 21, 2004 at 12:15 AM

Hear, hear B-t-A. And duh! It wasn't half obvious there is more than one Andrea in the world.

(Thank God - I just love Andrea as a name ... it goes back to primary school when I fell in love with at least three ... but unrequited ...

Posted by: ilibcc at July 21, 2004 at 01:16 AM

So pro-Moore comments were boo-ed in Vegas?

How the fuck is this a suprise to anyone?

Pffffft.

Posted by: Darp Hau at July 21, 2004 at 01:43 AM

Andrea — the shift key is a tool of the fascist grammarian oppressors,

And they're really good links.

And what's wrong with Minnesota? They have trees in Minnesota. Crawling with flesh eating black flies, but trees...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 21, 2004 at 01:57 AM

Nothing's wrong with Minnesota. I've just never been there.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at July 21, 2004 at 02:07 AM

Let's treat our own side with a little more consideration, PW?

I dunno, I have this arcane notion that spamming is bad, no matter if it's done by people whose opinion I agree with or those whose opinion I do not. Not a matter of consideration, just one of fairness. But no big deal, I'll shut up now.

Posted by: PW at July 21, 2004 at 02:40 AM

Well, not ALL Americans like "Desperado." I, for one, can't frickin' stand it.

Posted by: ccwbass at July 21, 2004 at 03:10 AM

Well, I liked El Mariachi better, but Salma Hayek was amazing.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at July 21, 2004 at 03:17 AM

I saw a picture of Ronstadt on AOL News. She and Mr. Moore would make quite a pair (pear?).

Posted by: Rebecca at July 21, 2004 at 04:55 AM

If Linda has a right to speak out as she did, why doesn't Mr. Timmins have a right to act as he did? Why is it that only those on the left who have rights?

Posted by: Ron at July 21, 2004 at 08:01 AM

So the First Amendment gives me, an American citizen, the right to speak at the Aladdin in Las Vegas?

Wow. Never realised that the Founding Fathers had such great foresight.

Posted by: David at July 21, 2004 at 09:14 AM

Ronstadt also claims that the US "looks like (Germany's) Weimar Republic to me." She’s old enough to know.

No, actually she isn't old enough to know. Which makes her look all the more ignorant.

Posted by: Rebecca at July 21, 2004 at 10:18 AM

So the First Amendment gives me, an American citizen, the right to speak at the Aladdin in Las Vegas?

David, help me out with this one. Are you stating something obvious to highten the irony, or do you not know where Las Vegas is? Apologies if it's the former.

Posted by: Sortelli at July 21, 2004 at 11:09 AM

We should of course point out that Mr. Timmins is British and thus probably poisoned by the EU's notions of "free speech."

Let's face it, if Timmins had been James "Las Vegas" Caan, he'd have just broken a couple of her fingers and told her to get back out on stage for the next set...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at July 21, 2004 at 11:17 AM

This is way dead now but that third update was great:

"Whatever I sang, I was burning to sing. It communicated something I felt an urgent need to communicate, and not to anybody specifically, just in a room, by myself."

She should have stayed there. And she should listen to her son:

"It's gotten to point where I don't sing at home. When I do, my son says: 'You sound like a sick parrot!' "

Posted by: ilibcc at July 21, 2004 at 11:35 AM

So the First Amendment gives me, an American citizen, the right to speak at the Aladdin in Las Vegas?

David, help me out with this one. Are you stating something obvious to highten the irony, or do you not know where Las Vegas is? Apologies if it's the former.

Sorry, it was heavily sarcastic, and I meant to say that the First Amendment gives me the right to stand on a stage in the Aladdin (a private forum, owned by a private entity, NOT the public) and say things that the owner of said forum disagrees with. It was meant to go along with Moore's evident belief that the First Amendment gives people the right to free speech anywhere. It doesn't, it simply restricts the ability of the government to limit said speech. Private venues have no such limitations, which was supposed to be my point. In this case, despite Moore's claim, the First Amendment does not apply. Apologies for not making that clear enough, and thanks for asking.

Posted by: David at July 21, 2004 at 12:48 PM

Ah, now I understand what you meant. Sorry about that. :)

Posted by: Sortelli at July 21, 2004 at 01:43 PM

Actually, it would be cool to have a free showing of "Fahrenheit 9/11," followed by an intermission and then "Michael Moore Hates America," and then an open debate.

You'd have to promise neither Ronstadt nor Moore would sing . . .

Posted by: tom beta 2 at July 21, 2004 at 04:05 PM