March 16, 2004


Remember Dale Ungerer, the Iowa retiree who earned a “Please sit down!” from Howard Dean? Now John Kerry has met his own town hall nemesis, who wanted to know more about these anti-Bush foreign leaders we keep hearing about:

The Massachusetts senator also was challenged by Cedrick Brown, owner of a small business in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, and a registered Republican who demanded at a town hall meeting to know who the leaders were.

"I'm talking about our allies, I'm talking about people who were our friends nine months ago," Kerry told Brown. "I'm talking about people who ought to be on our side on Iraq and aren't because this administration has pushed them away."

So name them, Mr Extender Face. The Wall Street Journal chases the story:

Last Monday in Florida, the Senator told reporters that, "I've met with foreign leaders who can't go out and say this publicly. But, boy, they look at you and say: 'You've got to win this. You've got to beat this guy. We need a new policy.' Things like that."

This sure sounds like news worth pursuing. Who are these foreign leaders, and what is Mr. Kerry privately saying that makes them so enthusiastic about his candidacy? What "new policy" is he sharing with them that he isn't sharing with Americans?

Mr. Kerry doesn't seem eager to fill in those blanks.

First, he’d need something to fill them with. By the way, Kerry would prefer it if the sniping were to end, please. On matters topical, Andrew from Pathetic Earthlings wonders:

I can only assume that, in the eyes of John Kerry, Spain will stop being a member of a fraudulent coalition and start being a bellweather of international opinion.

UPDATE. The latest Election Projection has Kerry stomping home by 44 electoral college votes! The foreign leaders -- they will be pleased.

Posted by Tim Blair at March 16, 2004 02:24 AM


> Kerry, who last traveled overseas in late 2002, insisted he had talked to and met with foreign leaders who were rooting for him. He said during the town hall he talked to "several" in the past week and that all the conversations were not face-to-face.

If the conversations weren't face-to-face but they were looking at Kerry, how were the conversations conducted? Is Kerry doing foreign policy by web-cam?

Posted by: Andy Freeman at March 16, 2004 at 02:37 AM

Unfortunately, too many American elites -- including Mr. Kerry -- are like insecure teenagers who believe it is more important to be popular and well-liked than to do what is right. They share a dysfunctional relationship with manipulative Old World 'parents' who always criticize and are never satisfied. And, of course, they're naive enough to believe that no selfish agenda lay behind any encouragement of Mr. Kerry by leaders of other countries.

Posted by: Cosmo at March 16, 2004 at 02:41 AM

"I'm talking about our allies, I'm talking about people who were our friends nine months ago,"

Nine months ago? Given this is the anniversary of the beginning of the liberation of Iraq, is Kerry asserting we bagan losing our "good friends and allies" around June 2003?

Posted by: beets at March 16, 2004 at 02:47 AM

You and I both know, beets, that Kerry means France and Germany. I always wondered how anyone would have convinced France and Germany -- two nations whose interests in Iraq were diametrically opposed to those of the U.S. -- to join a coalition to end the lucrative organized crime concession both nations were enjoying there. Seems an impossible act of diplomatic contortion.

Posted by: Cosmo at March 16, 2004 at 03:01 AM

Quote from Colin Powell, via Instapundit:

"I don't know what foreign leaders Senator Kerry is talking about," Powell said on "Fox News Sunday." "It's an easy charge, an easy assertion to make. But if he feels it is that important an assertion to make, he ought to list some names. If he can't list names, then perhaps he should find something else to talk about."

Posted by: Pixy Misa at March 16, 2004 at 03:34 AM

Feel free to speculate on who Kerry might be talking about at my blog. This is hilarious. Imagine the wild speculations from the mainstream media if Bush had made such a claim. Heck, just look at the speculation-driven AWOL "story" for an example.

Posted by: Brian Jones at March 16, 2004 at 04:11 AM

What do socialists and sociopaths have in common? Appearances are everything.

Posted by: aaron at March 16, 2004 at 04:20 AM

It seems obvious to me that Mr. Kerry is talking about the Axis of Weasels (those allies). Because if that's who he's talking about (assuming he hasn't just dreamed up a gaggle of imaginary friends), I see it as a strong endorsement for the other side.

Posted by: Rebecca at March 16, 2004 at 04:39 AM

How many Electoral College votes do France and Germany have?

Democrats/Liberals are like women with low self-esteem - they only love men who treat them like crap, and they despise the nice guys who pay them compliments and are always there for them. Now that Spain has left a message on our machine saying, "Hey, babe, it was great, but I'm looking for something else, y'know?", you can bet the D/L's will be pining for this former "fraudulent" ally.

Cosmo's parent/child metaphor works, too. I've had foreigners dismissively tell me we're a "young" country. I guess that's why we've had one gov't since 1789 while the French are on Republic #5 (?) now.

I'm babbling.

Posted by: Dave S. at March 16, 2004 at 04:54 AM

"I'm talking about people who ought to be on our side on Iraq and aren't because this administration has pushed them away."

Kerry has settled on just one side regarding Iraq?

Posted by: Bob71 at March 16, 2004 at 07:03 AM

I've despised the french since the day a waiter in a cafe informed me that he would prefer I use English rather than sully the grand Langue Francaise.

I told him (in extremely fluent Spanglish) precisely what he could do with his filty language, and I've never been back.

Posted by: mojo at March 16, 2004 at 07:05 AM

Naw. If Bush had made a statement like that he'd have been accused of being stupid, delusional, or suffering from flashbacks. Kerry, obviously, is bringing a nuanced explanation of what the voices he hears in his head have told him.

Posted by: JorgXMcKie at March 16, 2004 at 07:10 AM

Hey DaveS:

Good one. The 'abusive relationship' metaphor works, too -- the beaten wife who believes she must have done something to make her husband angry, and thus deserves her beating. Hence, we get 'Why do they hate us? It must be something we've done.' Sheesh. Think we can fit the entire West on a psychiatrists' couch, find enough Prozac to go around, and put everyone into a 12-step recovery program?

Posted by: Cosmo at March 16, 2004 at 01:14 PM

The abused wife analogy works for the Palestinians too. Arafat treats them like shit, but they keep saying "my man, right or wrong."

Posted by: Yehudit at March 16, 2004 at 01:40 PM


Amen. There aren't enough therapists or pills on the planet to even begin to address THAT dysfunctional relationship!

Posted by: Cosmo at March 16, 2004 at 01:47 PM