September 18, 2003


• Hoaxers hoaxed!

• Vanilla Coke. Cherry Coke. Pesticide Coke.

• Redline that thing, Professor! What are you doing below 3000 rpm?

• “It’s because no one there cares what is happening.”

• The real list of the 25 most censored stories of 2002-3.

• And Thomas Friedman in the NYT:

It's time we Americans came to terms with something: France is not just our annoying ally. It is not just our jealous rival. France is becoming our enemy.

Posted by Tim Blair at September 18, 2003 09:43 PM

So what's going to happen with France as our 'enemy,' Tim? WAR? Nuclear war? That's what you are pushing for? You sick puppy. You really are sick in the head aren't you.
WAR! Yeah! Whooo! Beer and war! Yeah!
You sick puppy.

Posted by: Firthy at September 18, 2003 at 09:54 PM

Please. The correct drink to serve with a French war is chablis.

Posted by: tim at September 18, 2003 at 10:00 PM

Ah, but I find that Cabernet goes better with a nuclear war.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at September 18, 2003 at 10:05 PM

i disagree andrea; a nice spicy shiraz marries perfectly with thermonuclear fire.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at September 18, 2003 at 10:46 PM

Get it right Firthy: It starts off with an appetizer of HEGEMONY then nice bowl of INTIMIDATION followed by a large helping of WAR washed down with a glass of OIL

Posted by: Gary at September 18, 2003 at 10:59 PM

I prefer the blood of innocent babies myself.

Posted by: Evil Pundit at September 18, 2003 at 11:02 PM

Each to their own, Evil Pundit.

I'll have my war with a golden circle popper.

Posted by: Cruddrick at September 18, 2003 at 11:08 PM

So long as it's red, and Australian or American. Keeps the radiation sickness down.

What are we going to do when we find out France sold some of Saddam's chemical weapons in Africa?

Posted by: aaron at September 19, 2003 at 12:35 AM

My friends and I plan on celebrating the start of the French war by dining on snow leopard, Siberian tiger, chilled gibbon brains, and other endangered species. After dinner we will smoke cigars rolled by the hands of enslaved Latin American children as we pore over a map of the world to determine our next conquest. Australia will soon fall under our eye, although Right Wing Death Beasts like Tim Blair may escape the camps if he's willing to help run them.

Firthy, you however, are on our list.

Posted by: Randal Robinson at September 19, 2003 at 01:16 AM

I bet Panda is very tender.

Posted by: aaron at September 19, 2003 at 01:19 AM

I'm still waiting for France to blame the deaths of its elderly this summer on the US because we didn't sign up to the Kyoto Accords. The US is guilty of environmental terrorism byt causing global warming!

Posted by: charles austin at September 19, 2003 at 01:28 AM

Somebody say beer and war?

What channel is it on? Pay per view? or does it come with basic service?


Posted by: SteveMG at September 19, 2003 at 02:07 AM

Actually, Charles, I think I've already seen that theme.

Posted by: Robin Roberts at September 19, 2003 at 02:36 AM

Sorry to say this, but you who are asserting that wine is the best drink for a war against the French are all wrong. The wine won't be finished breathing before the war is over.

Beer it is.

Posted by: Kevin Smith at September 19, 2003 at 04:20 AM

Chirac’s declaration of the pursuit multipolarity was a declaration of Cold War against the USA—from a country whose strong suit is its Security Council veto.

Chirac made anti-Americanism the core of French foreign policy starting in 1999, indeed while Clinton was still President. It wasn’t because of any Bush administration hamhandedness. See “Chirac arrives at a crossroads” by John Vinocur, April 23, 2003, International Herald Tribune.

Like Mark Steyn summed it up, with France, it’s all business (& power politics) unless the terrorists are careless enough to blow up the Eiffel Tower.

Posted by: ForNow at September 19, 2003 at 04:22 AM

It should be added that France’s behavior has been egregious in view not only of our shared history, but also of the fact that France is a formal ally of the United States. This formal alliance reflects not only a commitment to constructive cooperation, but also real long-term interests of both countries.

Agh, don’t get me going on France. I link to an oldie-but-goodie thread (where “Three Weeks in France, Ten Years Later” by Ariel first appeared) on my name in this post.

Originally I was quite taken with Den Beste’s idea that France is doomed, but I’ve come to doubt it. France is probably here to stay & we need a long-term strategy to deal with the current creepy regime. First of all, it would be nice if many of the French even knew what has been being written & said in English about Iraq, France, etc. They appear to be largely confined to a Francophone leftist echo chamber.

Posted by: ForNow at September 19, 2003 at 04:41 AM

A war with France? I'll take bets on how many white flags they already have in stock.

Posted by: ushie at September 19, 2003 at 06:41 AM

What to drink...what to drink...

Bush is from Texas but there are way too many to choose from in Cowboy Heaven.

Cheney is from the state of Wyoming, which is next door to the state of Colorado.

Rumsfeld's home state produces a nice Octoberfest beer, whose distribution would coincide nicely with the flaming colors of fall of a crimson, nuclear Paris.

What to do, what to do...

Posted by: Tongue Boy at September 19, 2003 at 08:01 AM

Personally, I'm going local.

A fine beer to accompany fascist oppression by the imperialistic American hegemon. I think I'll have two...

Posted by: Ken Summers at September 19, 2003 at 09:18 AM

France fight a war ? Frog army has forgotten:
where it has buried its weapons and ammunition;
what a soldier is; what a steel pointy thing is which is attached to rifles which are buried somewhere they can't remember.

Kevin Smith, there'll only be time enough for half a tinny.

Posted by: d at September 19, 2003 at 10:48 AM

The irony in the mutterings over Evil Amerikka's Imperial ambitions is, that is precisely what the proposed pan_Europe super (Federal) Socialist regime will amount to, a Franco-Teutonic dominated socialist Empire.Whta's that about pots calling kettles black.

Posted by: d at September 19, 2003 at 10:52 AM

d, it’s worse than that. It’s getting to seem as if one could rely on the content of their mutterings against us as, not just ironically, but cynically, reflecting in advance their aims for themselves.

Posted by: ForNow at September 19, 2003 at 11:40 AM

You've cut straight to the chase , Fornow.

What is unsurprising is, while attacking the U.S. for entertaining imperial ambitions, ABC,BBC, The Age, SMH et al, are silent on the totalitarian imperial ambitions of European socialists.And supra European ambitions.

French government officials say nothing publicly unless approved. So this gem: the aim to carve the world into regional trade blocks run on mercantilist lines under regional governing bodies, is French Government's policy.

Oh, as for leftoid journos in Oz screaming censorship. In France, there is no freedom of the press. Journalism is subject to government censorship.
Under the propsed so-called constiution of super Europe, what amounts to blashemy `laws' are written in. It is a criminal offence to criticise Rthe proposed supra European government and its insitutions. As the Spectator has related, it is already the case the monsters of Europe are already attempting to enforce them.

One shall observe, genuine freedom of the press exists only in the English Common Law countries.

Posted by: d at September 19, 2003 at 12:07 PM

Americans are just finding out what the British have known for centuries. It is the back of the mind in all their dealings with the Elysee Palace.

Remember Agincourt!

Posted by: Dave F at September 19, 2003 at 09:40 PM

If there is a war on Fench soil, you can bet there won't be any French soldiers fighting.

They would simply do what they did when the Nazis invaded - learn to speak in an American accent, drive Chevrolets and quietly seethe - and wait for Britain to kick the yanks out.

Posted by: The_GOP_Elephant at September 20, 2003 at 03:03 PM