September 18, 2003
THINGS THEY DON'T TEACH IN J-SCHOOL
Journalism advice from Mark Day:
Posted by Tim Blair at September 18, 2003 02:01 PMIf all else fails, try emotion. Tell the person who's holding out on you that your editor has threatened you with the sack. Sometimes you get lucky.
?????, Waht else do the journos do but play on emotions.Why, obvious, no clue as to music.Envious of Pavarotti et el , they sing any tune to make money ,overlooking some like to shoot neighbours wailing cats and yapping pratt dogs.
Posted by: d at September 18, 2003 at 02:22 PMI was a Media Studies student in the days when Media Studies had just been invented (by some Marxist academic trying to grow his business - hypocrite).
It was all semiotics and semantics; post-modern cinema deconstructionism with particular focus on the French New Wave genre; Trotskyite lecturers spouting endless media baron world news control conspiracy theories and never-ending readings from the Chomskies and the Barthes, the Bergers and the Foucaults.
In between, there was a once-a-week lecture in the Journalism school - then an old-school hot metal writing-skills-are-paramount department. The wizened old lecturer was an ex Herald & Weekly Times sub-editor. God, how he hated us!
He correctly foresaw a threat to old-style journalism schools from Marxist academics preaching new-age media theory mantras.
He was right. Media Studies won the battle and is now studied in kindergartens, for all I know.
I escaped mostly unscathed.
Posted by: ilibcc at September 18, 2003 at 05:06 PMYou and you riends and media studies aren't alone ilibcc.
Fork, who is Fat Lucy and if the answer is warrants it, out with the old blunderbuss we'll ago.
Posted by: d at September 18, 2003 at 05:19 PMI'll give you a clue -- he is fat, and his first name is "Luciano".
Posted by: fork at September 18, 2003 at 05:23 PMFork, French New Wave may not be a genre, but you are.
Posted by: ilibcc at September 18, 2003 at 05:47 PM"Lucky, I escaped mostly unscathed by any sort of book-learning at all."
Posted by: Fork at September 18, 2003 at 05:54 PMilibic, sums it up neatly.
Fork - do you have a cat called Fat Lucy - I'll happily oblige -how would you like me to do it in - between the eyes, four paws in the cement or shall I just hop in the motor and run over it.Don't recommend the last 2 in case you like eating cat.
One doesn't know what a genre is, (in spite of a gruelling induction into Marxist studies!), the other has never heard Pavarotti called "Fat Lucy".
Sorry, readers.
Posted by: Fork at September 18, 2003 at 06:30 PMGenre: French word inserted into faux-intellectual conversation to endow speaker with credibility amongst like-minded Marxist airheads.
See Chomsky, Berger, Foucault and all the rest. Or don't see them. Who gives a rats tossbag.
May they all be consigned to the Trotskyite trashcan of history. And that's a very full trashcan.
Posted by: ilibcc at September 18, 2003 at 06:44 PMGenre -- it's French, so it's bad.
Ever call a film a "Western"? That's its "genre".
Tell me more about your ignorance.
Posted by: Fork at September 18, 2003 at 06:49 PM'Dad, can you take us to see a John Wayne genre tonight, please?'
Duh.
Posted by: ilibcc at September 18, 2003 at 06:52 PM"Western" is a "genre", but not all "genres" are "Western". Here are some others -- "melodrama", "noir", "sci-fi", "musical" ...
Yes, it's terribly esoteric knowledge that only initiates understand.
Apparently above your level of comprehension, though.
Posted by: Fork at September 18, 2003 at 06:58 PMFork, are you really Mork? Your pedantry resembles his.
Posted by: Andrea Harris at September 18, 2003 at 10:10 PMI think it's just something common to people with an "ork" component in their names. Hence the derivative insult "dork".
Posted by: tim at September 19, 2003 at 01:52 AMilibcc originally used the phrase "French new wave genre". This was correct usage. At this distance in time the French new wave films have a similarity that makes them into a genre, just like the noir films of the 40s.
As for Pavarotti,it is terribly middle-brow to refer to him at all I would have said.
Posted by: Toryhere at September 19, 2003 at 10:46 AMIt's just that, it's great to have a sing long when playing Pavarotti's greatest pop hits.
Posted by: d at September 19, 2003 at 11:02 AM