September 10, 2004


Damning proof!

And yet more proof, double-plus-extra-damning!

Posted by Tim Blair at September 10, 2004 05:58 PM

In a sense, we have witnessing the fall of the Roman Empire. The exalted class of imperial journalist, who have ruled the universe for centuries, with their seven figure salaries, five-star travel arrangements, large staffs, fawning fans and celebrity status have been annihilated and their citadels sacked by a few unwashed blogs in just a few hours of conflict. Their world will never be the same.

Posted by: perfectsense at September 10, 2004 at 07:30 PM


The IBM Electric typewriters were a series of electric typewriters that IBM manufactured, starting in the late 1940s. They used the conventional moving carriage and hammer mechanism. Each model came in both Standard and Executive versions; the Executive differed in having a multiple escapement mechanism and four widths for letters, producing a near typeset quality result.

One model of the series was introduced in the late 1940s:
IBM Model A Two models of the series were introduced in the 1950s:
IBM Model B
IBM Model C One model of the series was introduced in the early 1970s:
IBM Model D Modified Standard versions of the A, B, and C models were commonly used as "console typewriters" or terminals on many early computers (e.g., JOHNNIAC, IBM 1620, PDP-1). Following the introduction of the IBM Selectric typewriter in 1961, which was much easier to interface to a computer, these typewriters were rarely used anymore as "console typewriters" or terminals.

also, this is a lot like the roman empire. apparently.

Posted by: snuh at September 10, 2004 at 08:55 PM

heh, i think this is beautiful. now if we can only get those photos of peter jennings and the goat published...

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at September 10, 2004 at 09:53 PM

cnn, of course, still says absolutely zilch about any questions on the veracity of these memos.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at September 10, 2004 at 10:21 PM

Wasn`t Pony Express still running in 1972

Posted by: Le clerc at September 10, 2004 at 11:20 PM

snuh, the thing you linked to proves absolutely nothing, since the document in question was unmistakably done on a modern computer using Microsoft word. It's been proven, deal with it.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at September 10, 2004 at 11:52 PM

Jesus H. Christ, snuh, I wish the girls I met at uni had been as gullible as you.

Posted by: Clem Snide at September 10, 2004 at 11:53 PM

Oh, and here is even more detail on what a bad forgery this is, and why.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at September 11, 2004 at 12:01 AM

"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over...

Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Propaganda Minister

From the patron saint of Mikey Moore and the MSM.....

Posted by: Crusader at September 11, 2004 at 12:07 AM

gawd, i love how people are saying this is a plant by karl rove. i hear rove planted a bic lighter on the hindenberg too

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at September 11, 2004 at 12:19 AM

Right on snuh! And remember Bush kept sending spam to your 1969 IBM Selectric and you had to purchase an expensive Wang spam filter to stop it.

Also I've got the Star Trek episode on tape where Bush overides Spock's communicator and calls for tax cuts for the federation. Dan Rather calls me all the time now. What a pest.

Posted by: Arty at September 11, 2004 at 12:21 AM

What's the frequency, Kenneth?
What is the frequency, Kenneth?

Posted by: LB at September 11, 2004 at 12:33 AM

Lateline has just cited these memos as fact of GWB's poor National Guard performance; via Leftline propaganda reporter Steven McDonald (11:22pm September 10) merely most of a day after they were first shown on LGF as phoney.

Never ever let the facts get in the way of a good left wing lie. It might impact the meme.

Posted by: Marlin at September 11, 2004 at 12:45 AM

And of course an early version of the Internet and e-mail had been invented by 1971 (by the Department of Defense, no less.) So theoretically Killian could have sent Bush an e-mail as stated in that second story. But obviously Bush ignored the e-mail because he won't reveal his complete e-mail records. And his administration has lied about everything, so the burden of proof is on him to prove he never received an e-mail that may or may not have existed, and probably didn't. And the Bush administration hasn't commented on the e-mail, so if it didn't even exist at all, why not deny the claims in the non-existent e-mail? What do they have to hide?

(Am I being sarcastic? Or am I trying out for a guest post slot on Josh Marshall's or Kevin Drum's site? You decide.)

Posted by: dorkafork at September 11, 2004 at 12:57 AM

Please! Stop it you lot.

I have had long week working to support various welfare drones, a long night at the boozer, and I come home expecting to find serious news analysis and witty commentary and what do I find?
A pack of schoolgirls giggling about how George Bush's National Guard boss, had "like, NO idea how to email, or SMS, OMG, WTF what's a 'typerwriter', LOL, OMG"

Be ashamed, very ashamed.

Posted by: PQ at September 11, 2004 at 01:07 AM

They didn't have MS Word in 1973? Who knew? I can see how CBS was hoodwinked by such a masterful forgery.

Now it's back to Corel Draw to finish up my newly "discovered" Van Gogh painting.

Posted by: Randal Robinson at September 11, 2004 at 01:12 AM

I know that leftists support affirmative action, but if they keep head-hunting their election campaign managers at this rate, there'll soon be nobody left to man the sheltered workshops.

Posted by: Clem Snide at September 11, 2004 at 01:17 AM

dorkafork is a liar. The internet was invented by Al Gore.

Posted by: George at September 11, 2004 at 01:28 AM

Marlin - I also caught Leftline. In the very same segment, they managed to misreport Dick Cheney's remarks and screened phony criticisms of those remarks from Al Gore and John Edwards.

The blogosphere has been on to the Cheney dowdification story for at least 24 hours, and the forgery story for at least 18 hours. But the ABC didn't report any of it.

But of course, they're not biased, no way.

Posted by: George at September 11, 2004 at 01:38 AM

I have a few things that I have been thinking about selling on eBay, but was afraid that there wouldn't be any takers. Thanks to snuh and a couple of diehards at LGF, I'm sure that a tremendous market exists. I can't decide whether to sell my Matthew Brady polaroids, or my videotape of the Gettysburg Address.

Posted by: Ernie G at September 11, 2004 at 02:27 AM


Your videotape of the Gettysburg address might be exteemely valuable, but only if it includes the "unedited version" in which Lincoln compared Bush to Hitler.

Posted by: sean at September 11, 2004 at 03:09 AM

I have hot pics of Joan of Arc. (Really hot, burning even.)

Posted by: dorkafork at September 11, 2004 at 04:02 AM

The DNC was behind Watergate.............

Posted by: Crusader at September 11, 2004 at 04:16 AM

Hey Randal! How much ya want for the Van Hoch? It will go nicely with my Rembrandt! Just make sure your Van Hoch doesn't clash with my "Night Watch". For goodness sake snuh! Try embracing reality, you'll find it refreshing.

Posted by: YoJimbo at September 11, 2004 at 05:36 AM

This is going completely in the opposite direction, but it's still funny.

Posted by: david at September 11, 2004 at 07:32 AM

I've got this great "Magna Carta retraction" that I can sell to CBS...

Posted by: Quentin George at September 11, 2004 at 11:14 AM

I'm still trying to ponder what "snuh"'s "Roman Empire" comment was supposed to mean.

Or is the meme so ingrained we are just supposed to nod our heads and smile?

Posted by: Quentin George at September 11, 2004 at 01:47 PM

Snuh was responding to perfectsense's analogy. Which shows that, unlike other spammers I've seen on the subject, he's not so frightened that he can't read other people's comments. Which makes him unusual.

Most of them just shout WRONG WRONG WRONG LIES KOS PROVED IT WAS WRONG BECAUSE... BECAUSE! And then they are gone.

I can't believe the lengths they are going to on this one. It hurts my brain. But, you know, maybe that guy did actually haul out the one very sophisticated type-setting machine that was capable of making those memos to write a simple fucking "CYA" note . . . with "CYA" written in the fucking subject line.

Posted by: Sortelli at September 11, 2004 at 07:07 PM