August 25, 2004

BUSH CUP

Hey, who needs celebrities when you've got NASCAR?

The 2004 Presidential election may be a statistical tie according to a poll earlier this month, but based on political contributions from people associated with NASCAR, it's a landslide victory for George W. Bush.

Among Republican NASCAR contributors: Bill France, Betty Jane France, Brian France, James France, Lesa France Kennedy, Mike Helton, Greg Penske, the hated Tony George (destroyer of the Indianapolis 500), Jerry Carroll, William Miller, Teresa Earnhardt (Mrs. #3), Joseph Hendrick IV, Dale Jarrett, and Darrell Waltrip.

Posted by Tim Blair at August 25, 2004 04:06 PM
Comments

5 bucks sez Tony Stewart's a Naderite!

Posted by: geezer at August 25, 2004 at 04:14 PM

It looks to me like France loves Bush.

heh

AOL is another band of brothers who love Bush

From the AOL poll
Who do you plan to vote for in November?
George Bush 55%
John Kerry 41%
I'm undecided 4%
How has the Swift Boat controversy affected your opinion of Kerry?
My opinion hasn't changed 51%
I think less of him 31%
I think more of him 18%
Total Votes: 548,222

This is a 3 point rise from a week ago
when they had Nader in the poll

Posted by: papertiger at August 25, 2004 at 04:22 PM

Speaking of who's who for whom: Tim, I think it'd be helpful to ask your minions how they deal with their favorite folk in all media when they come out publicly against Dubya/Howard and the war in Iraq.

This is something that obviously pisses many of us off to no end, and it might be helpful to hear how those of like mind have come to terms with the Springsteens/Damons/Rebecca Stamos' of the world.

Posted by: geezer at August 25, 2004 at 04:36 PM

NASCAR vs. Hollywood. Pretty much sums up America today.

Posted by: David Crawford at August 25, 2004 at 04:40 PM

Oh, and if I was in a bar-fight, I know which one I'd want to have my back.

Posted by: David Crawford at August 25, 2004 at 04:43 PM

Amongst 18-29 year olds, Bush leads by 12 points.

Will you boomers hurry up and die off, already? ;)

Posted by: Sarah Brabazon-Biggar at August 25, 2004 at 05:07 PM

NASCAR vs Hollywood?

I suspect there are a hell of a lot of people somewhere in between, who are somewhat mystified by the amount of passion generated by partisans for a contest between the incumbent, a rich Skull and Bones alumnus, and the challenger, an even richer Skull and Bones alumnus. But I guess most of these people won't vote, so they don't matter.

Posted by: tim g at August 25, 2004 at 05:13 PM

Nice try, my friend, but WE know who the true enemies-of-the-people are...

Cheney's got their names in his little black book, and with 3 Nov comes that dreaded knock on the door!

Or maybe not... maybe life will go on, a little safer, a little more prosperous, especially with the grownups still in charge.

May the Dubya be with you.

Posted by: geezer at August 25, 2004 at 05:26 PM

the hated Tony George (destroyer of the Indianapolis 500),

(Warning: name dropping!) A good friend of my father's works for Roger Penske and we got VIP tickets to an IRL race at California Speedway a couple of years ago. I was riding in one of those 6-passenger golf carts, sitting behind Mr. Penske, and who do we nearly run over? Yep, Tony George. Missed him by *that* much.

Posted by: Spiny Norman at August 25, 2004 at 06:04 PM

Wow, tim g, I hope you didn't break any brain cells coming up with that original quip. Yeah, I wish we had John the Baptist running against Jesus Christ instead of two Rich Frat Boyz™, but neither of them seemed to have been interested.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at August 25, 2004 at 07:59 PM

Andrea said:

I wish we had John the Baptist running against Jesus Christ

Yeah, right, a couple of male, religious fanatic Jews. One of whom eats bugs. You think the American left is deranged now, imagine how they'd feel about that ticket.

Posted by: Sarah Brabazon-Biggar at August 25, 2004 at 10:09 PM

ooh, then we'd really be a part of the worldwidezionistprotocolianconspiracy!

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at August 25, 2004 at 10:42 PM

How about Jesus vs Simon Magus? Now that would be interesting...I know who I would go for.

Posted by: Andrew Ian Dodge at August 25, 2004 at 10:44 PM

How about St Paul vs. St Peter?

Constantine vs. Justinian?

Cyril of Alexandra vs. Hypatia?

The possibilites are endless!

Posted by: Quentin George at August 25, 2004 at 11:01 PM

ren vs stimpy?

(to say 'beavis vs butthead' is too easy)

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at August 25, 2004 at 11:13 PM

"Yeah, right, a couple of male, religious fanatic Jews. One of whom eats bugs." Etc.

Okay fine. I will rephrase: Gee, I wish we had two perfect paragons (however you in-DUH-viduals define "paragon") running for president instead of the two mere human beings we are stuck with.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at August 26, 2004 at 12:20 AM

Oh and by the way: I am so sure the Hip, Progressive, Polycultural Left™ would be totally down with bug-eating. It is, after all, an "alternative" source of protein, can be put forth as an expression of one's Culture™, and is disgusting to the squares. I don't know what to suggest about the Judaism, though I have heard that if you are Jewish but declare yourself fully in support of the Palestinian cause you may not get a pass but you get put in the kill-them-last group. Maybe Jesus could emphasize his status as teacher and prophet and downplay that uncomfortable "Son of God" thing, and John the Baptist could just start talking about the delights of an all-insect diet every time someone brings up the J-word.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at August 26, 2004 at 12:26 AM

It is, after all, an "alternative" source of protein, can be put forth as an expression of one's Culture™, and is disgusting to the squares.

You forgot to mention that it's the ultimate in recycling.

Posted by: Slartibartfast at August 26, 2004 at 01:24 AM

Andrea said:

Oh and by the way: I am so sure the Hip, Progressive, Polycultural Left™ would be totally down with bug-eating

I was kind of thinking of PETA. Of course you'd think anything that saves cows and chickens would be A-OK with them, but knowing PETA, they'd never think it through that far.

Posted by: Sarah Brabazon-Biggar at August 26, 2004 at 02:20 AM

I thought NASCAR was only supposed to turn left. Damn...

Posted by: Gary at August 26, 2004 at 04:17 AM

"mystified by the amount of passion generated by partisans for a contest between the incumbent, a rich Skull and Bones alumnus, and the challenger, an even richer Skull and Bones alumnus."

Yep. Kind of like the last election, which pitted an Ivy League-educated scion of an American political dynasty against an Ivy League-educated scion of an American political dynasty.

People really go bonkers over this stuff, don't they?

In 2008 (or 2012), I want the Republicans to totally shake things up and nominate Condeleeza Rice. Could you imagine her running against Hillary?

DEMOCRATS: We're nominating a woman for President of the United States!

REPUBLICANS: Oh, yeah? We're nominating a black lesbian.

DEMOCRATS: Touché.

Posted by: Dave S. at August 26, 2004 at 05:48 AM

Boy howdy. Some cowboy slang for ya.
The only skull and bones I've seen running around lately running for POTUS is that fwance fwide Kerreeeee.
That's as about turning left you go without meeting yourself face to face.
If'n any of yews would like to read his'ns book, here ya be.
http://johnkerrythenewsoldier.blogspot.com/

And all that bleu blood and such.

Posted by: mshyde at August 26, 2004 at 06:04 AM

New Kerry joke:


There is a big difference between Calley and Kerry. Calley is a proven war criminal. For Kerry we only have his word as an officer and a gentleman.

What is the War Hero Afraid of?
Form 180. Release ALL the records.

Video link

Posted by: M. Simon at August 26, 2004 at 06:05 AM

To get back to NASCAR...remember when FOX would ask 10 questions of the drivers on their pre-race show? ALL of them said Republican when the Dem or Rep question came up. Then about halfway through that questions was dropped. Why ask a question when you know the answer. Lets get on to serious stuff...boxers or briefs.

Posted by: Rick Miller at August 26, 2004 at 07:07 AM

Aussie newspapers seem to be confused about proper honorifics for public officials.

Posted by: Yehudit at August 26, 2004 at 07:21 AM

Considering all the anti-Bush propaganda we've seen the passed 2+ years, do you really think most of the undecides are going to break for Kerry. Landslide.

Posted by: aaron at August 26, 2004 at 07:55 AM

All the donations from Nascar folks to GWB won't
come close to what Rick Hendrick chipped in to Clinton for his presidential pardon

Posted by: Doug M at August 26, 2004 at 09:02 AM

DAVE S.: I've never heard anything about Condi being a lesbian, not that it makes any difference as long as she kicks as much ass when she's president as Bush is doing now.

Posted by: steve at August 26, 2004 at 12:58 PM

OK, all you graphic/video pros. Where's my Swift Car Drivers for Bush commercial?

Posted by: Brian Jones at August 27, 2004 at 03:15 AM

Make sure you blame CART along with Tony G. They all were to blame.

Posted by: JEM at August 27, 2004 at 05:21 AM

CART was nowhere near as responsible as Tony George for the sad shape of open-wheel racing in America. Thru his greed and ego, he killed a great series and an historic race and left us with the wimpy IRL that no one wants to watch. On top of that, Formula One cares so little about the American market that there is no licensed F1 video game for us. the European version kicks ass, so i hear. And I blame Tony George for all of this. ;-)


Posted by: Mike Anderson at August 27, 2004 at 07:24 AM

Hmm... this will not be easy I see. Where to start. Open wheel was declining in the 80's well before the split - the Indy 500 was already seeing decreases in attendance for its qualifications. It was getting difficult for teams to compete due to increasing costs and the stronger CART teams were hoarding engines and working to keep the newer technology away from other teams. AS the early 90's came around it was not unusual to have fewer than 10 cars with even a remote chance to win. This is pretty basic. I am sure you are aware of CART's split from USAC and that the Indy 500 was the only race not controlled by CART and that CART wasn't thrilled with it. But they had no choice - the Indy 500 is THE race and they had to be there, which pissed them off even more. The only kind thing you can say about either side is that Tony G. recognized they were going to hit the wall hard if they didn't change their operating strategies. Unfortunately he saw it before CART did. So then both sides talk, both get ticked off, and both sides committ suicide - almost.

Tony then had an idea to at least preserve his franchise - the Indy 500. I don't know if there would have been a better method, probably so, but he started his own series to protect his investment in the IMS. He rightly recognized that he had the biggest hammer - Indy. And CART stupidly missed that and allowed Tony to hammer them right over their heads.

The last few years the best racing - if you like oval racing - has been the IRL, more exciting, closer racing than anything put out by whatever CART is currently calling itself or NASCAR. I am not an F1 fan because I don't enjoy watching parades, but for those who do like it, it is of course an impressive display of technology and the melding of man and machine.

So you can hate Tony, but if you do you need to hate all the former bigshot CART owners too. Both sides let it happen and of course now, a number of those bigshot CART owners are in the IRL anyway because they needed to be at Indy - their advertisers/sponsors told them so. It could have all been avoided had cooler heads prevailed 10 years or so ago.

Posted by: JEM at August 27, 2004 at 08:12 AM

Jesus could not even beat Barabus in an election. If you don't go dirty you don't have a chance.

Posted by: Ross at August 27, 2004 at 02:33 PM

"I've never heard anything about Condi being a lesbian"

She's unmarried, doesn't date, and wants to be commissioner of the NFL. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it's a dyke, er, duck.

"not that it makes any difference as long as she kicks as much ass when she's president as Bush is doing now"

Exact-a-mundo.

Posted by: Dave S. at August 28, 2004 at 02:56 AM