June 03, 2004

MICHAEL MOORE IS A ...

Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter contacted Fahrenheit 451 author Ray Bradbury to discover what he thought of Michael Moore adapting the book's title for his stupid new film. Jan Haugland at Secular Blasphemy has the translation:

Bradbury: Michael Moore is a screwed asshole, that is what I think about that case. He stole my title and changed the numbers without ever asking me for permission ... If I just could make him change his title silently, that would be the best thing.

DN: Do you think that is possible, I mean the movie is very famous under that title now?

Bradbury: Who cares? Nobody will see his movie, it is almost dead already. Nevermind, nobody cares.

DN: But it won the Palme d'Or in Cannes?

Bradbury: So what? I have won prizes in different places and they are mostly meaningless. The people there hate us, which is why they gave him the d'Or. It's a meaningless prize.

There’s lots more from the Swedish interview at Jan’s site. Click 'n' go.

Posted by Tim Blair at June 3, 2004 03:40 AM
Comments

Doesn't mince words, does he? Moore should just be glad he didn't make a film called Dangerous Visionaries...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 3, 2004 at 03:55 AM

Yes! That's why we love Ray!

Posted by: Doc at June 3, 2004 at 03:55 AM

Next time Tim writes to Don Wycliffe, he should ask why the Chicago Tribune did not ask that question of Bradbury, who is a native of Waukegan, Illinois - a town just a few miles north of Chicago. Or why the Chicago Sun-Times didn't do it (their columnist Mark Steyn would be the perfect interviewer). Or the suburban Daily Herald. Or any other paper in the United States. Could it be, could it possibly be, that they're too busy shilling for Moore to pick up the phone and call the guy whose title he ripped off?

Posted by: Brown Line at June 3, 2004 at 03:59 AM

Oooh, Harlan versus Moore! I'd shell out to see *that* on pay-per-view...

Posted by: Bruce at June 3, 2004 at 04:25 AM

A word of note here -- the interviewer made it clear that Mr. Bradbury was pissed about the use of the title and the lack of honesty from Moore. Mr. Bradbury would not bring politics into the discussion.

Which is consistent with his writings. He never came out with a political message, always a human message. I'm glad to see that age has not changed him.

PS: I'd pay a LOT of money to see Harlan and Moore in a debate!!!!!!

Posted by: The Real JeffS at June 3, 2004 at 04:38 AM

Yes, Brown Line. Yes, the Trib should ask Bradbury, only the answer might be a bit too forceful for Wycliffe's liking. We've had plenty of coverage of 5-person demos and the like, but an icon of American literature? No way.

Posted by: Michael at June 3, 2004 at 05:22 AM

Michael also has some explaining to this group about ripping off names.

Posted by: BC at June 3, 2004 at 06:52 AM

Sorry, the link should be this .

Posted by: BC at June 3, 2004 at 06:55 AM

I loved Ray Bradbury's books as a kid, and I'm glad to see he can still recognize total BS when he sees it.

Posted by: Rebecca at June 3, 2004 at 09:42 AM

Yay, I like Bradbury again.

Posted by: SarahW at June 3, 2004 at 10:09 AM

He is a pretty straight shooter isn't he? No wonder the American papers didn't interview him, cant have that sort of clear thinking in the press now can we.

The d'Or a meaningless prize? - surely not! This interview has made my day.

Posted by: Rob at June 3, 2004 at 10:41 AM

Bradbury, Asimov. Jg Ballard these guys are to SF what Charlie Parker. Coltrane, Tatum were to JAzz.
Bradbury is a hundred times the man, Moore could ever hope to be.

Posted by: davo at June 3, 2004 at 11:37 AM

We'll soon see if "nobody will see his film". Moore has secured distribution.

Posted by: Swade at June 3, 2004 at 12:33 PM

Okay Swade; let's amend that to "Nobodies will see his film".

Posted by: JDB at June 3, 2004 at 12:42 PM

Actually, Ray Bradbury is a huge GWB fan as well. In December, I heard him interviewed by LA author and radio host Tammy Bruce, and he was expressing his gratitude to the president for recognizing the evil of terrorism and for doing something about it. To say he is completely apolitical simply isn't true. And good for him.

Posted by: Melissa at June 3, 2004 at 01:13 PM

JDB - they let you use the computers during recess now?

Stick and stones etc...

Posted by: Swade at June 3, 2004 at 01:17 PM

That was actually clever and funny, Swade. Perhaps not original, but it was funny. Now back in line, you!

Posted by: One-Eyed Undertaker at June 3, 2004 at 01:25 PM

Melissa, I'm glad to hear Mr. Bradbury is not totally apolitical, and leans towards the right. But he is a smart man, and doesn't let his politics drive his art (or his profit), unlike one "artists" that we all know.

Posted by: The Real JeffS at June 3, 2004 at 02:40 PM

I've actually had the privelege of meeting Ray Bradbury: I used to work with a childhood friend of his whom he hadn't seen in more than 40 years and it was facinating listening to them reminisce. Politically, he seemed to to me to be libertarian then, but September 11 changed the outlook of an awful lot of people.

Posted by: Spiny Norman at June 3, 2004 at 02:47 PM

You lucky bastard, Spiny Norman! I'm jealous.....

Posted by: The Real JeffS at June 3, 2004 at 02:56 PM

Ah well, a kind of "fly-on-the-wall" brush with greatness.

Posted by: Spiny Norman at June 3, 2004 at 03:32 PM

In the translation on Tim's site, Bradbury says "Moore is a screwed asshole." But on another site I read today he was described as a "screwed pooper."

I must say I like the ring of "screwed pooper" better. Plus, it's just so darn, well....literary.

Posted by: Fresh Air at June 3, 2004 at 04:29 PM

The people there hate us, which is why they gave him the d'Or

Assuming by "there" he meant France, he is ignorant. One of the nine jurors were French, 3 were American, the remainder were from across the globe.

Now, if one was to assume that he was not completely unaware of the facts, and that by "there" he knew he meant "the entire planet, including the US itself", that would be an interesting statement. But all indicators are that the guy is simply partisan, or stupendously ignorant, or both.

Posted by: felixrayman at June 3, 2004 at 05:35 PM

He could have meant the arty types who sat on the judging panel, you know felixrayman?

You didn't consider this, which leads me to believe you are simply partisan, or stupendously ignorant, or both.

Posted by: Quentin George at June 3, 2004 at 05:52 PM

He could have meant the arty types who sat on the judging panel

True, what possible place could "arty types" have on the jury for films at Cannes. God forbid that the worth of a work of art be judged by an "arty type".

I mean the head juror was Quentin Tarantino. Arty type. Hates America. Need I say more?

Posted by: felixrayman at June 3, 2004 at 06:51 PM

I thought similarly felixrayman, when I read that comment. He's either partisan or he's misinformed. Quentin George, your explanation seems a bit of a stretch to me.

Posted by: Bleh at June 3, 2004 at 06:55 PM

Felix and bleh, you're really stretching to get insults out of this. Face it, Bradbury pretty thoroughly dissed the Moore Lovemobile. Take it like men.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at June 3, 2004 at 08:09 PM

"There's more than one way to burn a book. And the world is full of people running about with lit matches. First we burn the books, then we burn the ashes." Where's was this guy when "Stupid White Men" was published?
This quote from Fahrenheit 451 could describe Micheal Moore's career:
“Out of the nursery into the college and back to the nursery; there’s your intellectual pattern for the past five centuries of more.”

Posted by: Bill at June 3, 2004 at 09:05 PM

Are you going to deny that people in the entertainment industry tilt to the left politically?

Let's try a different tack.

Would a different film, slanted as obviously to the right as Moore's is to the left have won the same award? Ever?

Posted by: Quentin George at June 3, 2004 at 09:11 PM

Let me just add, I'm not saying that the panel was intentionally biased or unqualified to judge the film, all I'm saying is that politicial choices are made more often than people realise.

Dare I mention the "black" oscars year?

Posted by: Quentin George at June 3, 2004 at 09:18 PM

Add a book to my reading list.

While looking at a recent copy of 48 hours within the weekend SMH, someone asked "isn't that a photo of Mike Moore?" and I answered "No, that's a photo of Shrek". We were looking at different photos on different pages, so we were both correct.

I recently heard on radio someone say that Supersize me was like Bowling for Columbine for the fast food industry. I chuckled a bit at that statement.

Posted by: Andjam at June 3, 2004 at 10:01 PM

Take a look at the BBC "news" website. "Trailer for Michael Moore's new anti-Bush film goes online" is one of the major news headlines (1:00pm GMT, Thursday). How many film trailers going online are a major BBC news headline?

Posted by: Martin Roth at June 4, 2004 at 12:22 AM

Some Big Dickhead This Way Comes.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at June 4, 2004 at 12:24 AM

Can we hope that Bradbury will sue the pants off the fat lieing bastard? Let Moore make some money, then sue him for all of it.

Posted by: Andrew Ian Dodge at June 4, 2004 at 01:22 AM

It's reassuring that the author of Fahrenheit 451 has nothing but contempt for Moore's propaganda mockumentary and Cannes' PC fascism. How could Moore and Cannes jurors so completely miss Bradbury's point about the dangers of rewriting history and of imposing group-think on others? They would be a parody and very nearly amusing, were it not for the echo chamber of Big Media and Academia taking them seriously. And that is tiresome

Posted by: c at June 4, 2004 at 02:30 AM

Bradbury lives in Tucson (and possibly LA). No longer in Chicago - so there's your answer).

Also, don't try and take Bradbury for one side or the other unless you have specific quotes. Being for the war against terror does not translate into being a supporter of Bush.

I'm here because I'm posting about this at my site and this was the first site I found. Bradbury is my literary idol and writing teachers / coaches have told me I write very much like him. I read him as a child.

Moore is a complete disgrace - and so I'm happy to have good taste both ways.

Three if you count the fact that I'll vote for Kerry (which it seems, this site would not count).

Ta Ta.

Posted by: Andrew | BYTE BACK at June 4, 2004 at 10:47 AM

"I'd pay a LOT of money to see Harlan and Moore in a debate!!!!!!"

Ye gods. That would be something to see. It wouldn't last long, sadly. But then Moore could recast it on his website so he's both the victor and the victim.

Posted by: Brian at June 5, 2004 at 03:18 AM

moore and harlan ellison are two big sucking liberals, Ray is a sensible conservative--whenever I see that fat pig Moore I have icepick fantasies, Harlan is okay, a bit of loon, but Ray is a giant, he's a bit irritible these days, he's well into his 80's and his lady died just a few months ago, but his name will be remembered into the next millenium while Michael Moore will eat himself into an early stroke (I hope, I hope, I hope)--he's a pig of a being

Posted by: Herb Slojewski at June 5, 2004 at 08:36 AM

moore and harlan ellison are two big sucking liberals, Ray is a sensible conservative--whenever I see that fat pig Moore I have icepick fantasies, Harlan is okay, a bit of loon, but Ray is a giant, he's a bit irritible these days, he's well into his 80's and his lady died just a few months ago, but his name will be remembered into the next millenium while Michael Moore will eat himself into an early stroke (I hope, I hope, I hope)--he's a pig of a being

Posted by: Herb Slojewski at June 5, 2004 at 08:37 AM

Andrew, don't lie, no one is voting for Kerry.

Posted by: Sortelli at June 5, 2004 at 02:12 PM