June 01, 2004


Arthur Chrenkoff has translated a Polish interview with Marek Edelman, last surviving military leader of the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto uprising. Itís a remarkably powerful document:

Interviewer: ... the Spanish withdrew their troops from Iraq after the terrorist attack in Madrid.

Edelman: Please don't tell me what the Spanish did. So what? Do you seriously think that it will save them from further attacks? No. The weak just get punched in the head. Pacifism lost a long time ago.

Read the whole thing. Much thanks to Arthur for this translation.

Posted by Tim Blair at June 1, 2004 02:08 PM

Note how the interviewer keeps asking the same anti-war questions over and over and Edelman won't have any of that nonsense.

Edelman fought in both the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising of 1943 and the more general Warsaw Uprising a year later. I recently received an order for a shirt and noted that the customer lived on Rechov Lochamay HaGhetto in Petach Tikva, Israel. That translates to "Ghetto Fighters Street".

Posted by: ronnie schreiber at June 1, 2004 at 02:23 PM

Also see Victor Davis Hanson on appeasing al Qua'ida in today's Australian.

Posted by: ilibcc at June 1, 2004 at 02:55 PM

Great stuff, Edelman should be compulsive reading for SMH subscribers, who today still load the front page with Autralian mea culpa innuendos on Abu Ghraib.
Hopefully loss of circulation will ultimately relieve them from the loss of their quick senses.
Interesting to note that the Poles who have not been terminally weakened by decades of complacent appeasement democracy are starting to catch the European diseases too.

Posted by: davo at June 1, 2004 at 02:57 PM

Mr. Edelman has been to Hell, more than once. Experience counts, in my books. I wish it counted with more people, this man has a lot to say.

Posted by: The Real JeffS at June 1, 2004 at 03:18 PM

Like Tim said, read the whole thing. Brilliant.

Posted by: CurrencyLad at June 1, 2004 at 03:47 PM

We can't expect the chattering classes to take this guy seriously. He's insufficiently nuanced...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 1, 2004 at 04:20 PM

Why is it that I can agree wholeheartedly with everything this man says, but because I haven't actually served in the military, pacifists disqualify my opinions by calling me a "chickenhawk"?

Is it because they have no valid moral arguments to counter those reasons?

Posted by: Moonbat_one at June 1, 2004 at 05:21 PM

When I read something like this I am always reminded of the saying, 'If I can see further it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants'

Without men like Edelman who knows where the world would be today.

Posted by: Just Another Bloody Lawyer at June 1, 2004 at 06:50 PM

Oh, his opinion doesn't matter because he doesn't have the experience of war I do from watching a Pilger documentary.

/sarcasm off (just in case)

Posted by: JBB at June 1, 2004 at 06:53 PM

When are the half wits that make up the left going to wake up and realise that you can't appease the terrorists as they despise our way of life, everything, the lot.

By appeasing them, we just embolden them and the left media has allowed its hatred of right wing governments in the west to blind it to the truth.

Nice people try not to think about it too much and the put their head in the sands but sometimes you need ruthless people doing ruthless things in your name.

Terroists will only ever be cowered into submission or eliminated, they will not stop just because we ask nicely.

Posted by: Nuffy at June 1, 2004 at 11:55 PM

While his sentiments are uplifting, does anyone wish to comment on whether the Warsaw Uprising was worth doing or not?

Posted by: Andjam at June 2, 2004 at 12:14 AM

Andjam -- who cares? The Warsaw uprising happened, they lost. Unfortunately. I don't see Mr. Edelman talking about the uprising being "worth doing".....and he was there.

Posted by: The Real JeffS at June 2, 2004 at 01:31 AM

so andjam, nothing is worth doing if you think it'll fail?

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at June 2, 2004 at 02:09 AM

And it didn't totally fail. Edelman survived; the Nazis didn't kill him.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at June 2, 2004 at 03:31 AM

Mr. Edelman is the type of guy you should seek out when traveling Europe; not like those French slags noted in the post below.

Sadly that generation's dying out. Especially the French in the summer.

I traveled throughout Europe and encountered some anti-Americanism but I found it generational.

I sat in a park in Amsterdam in '84 watching a Dutch anarchist group rally for a demonstration against "Cowboy Reagan's" cruise missiles while an old guy shook my hand and told me that those type never lived under totalitarians thanks to the US. Oh, and Canada! (The older Dutch love Canadians for liberating them).

My point is: If you travel to learn about other cultures and history, buy a pint for an older person. They just know more. The young will slag America then ask you if you know any black rappers like Snoop Dogg. "Znoop Dawg est tres formidable!"

F**king children.

Posted by: JDB at June 2, 2004 at 05:11 AM

The majority of the Jews in
the Warsau Ghetto had refused to believe
the monstrous libelous rumors of the German plans
for the total annihillation of the Jews.
Only when ~ 90% of the Jews have disappeared
into some form of "resettlement," the
remaning 10% could see no other explanation of
the facts of life as it was unfolding,
and then decided to die like human beings,
resisiting, instead of like sheep led to the

Posted by: Boris A.Kupershmidt at June 2, 2004 at 01:19 PM

Just checking, but.....

Was it not the Warsaw uprising, where Russian troops were within marching distance of Warsaw at the same time, and for some reason, were "told" to mark time (redirected attacks, regrouping?). When the uprising was squashed, the Russians started on the road to Warsaw.

Apparently the uprising was timed to occur when the Russians were still advancing to the capital.

Posted by: DaveACT at June 2, 2004 at 03:15 PM