May 04, 2004

WILL I GET TO KILL ARABS?

Ted Rall interrupts his grief over Pat Tillmanís death to compose this touching cartoon tribute.

UPDATE. The real war hero is Ted Rall himself:

Rall, who risked his life in Afghanistan himself as a visiting cartoonist/writer after 9/11, told E&P: "The word 'hero' has been bandied about a lot to refer to anyone killed in Afghanistan or Iraq. But anyone who voluntarily goes to Afghanistan or Iraq [as a soldier] is fighting for an evil cause under an evil commander in chief."

"Tillman gave up millions of dollars," Rall added. "To that extent I think he's admirable, but the cause is not. ... He would have been a better person and a better husband if he took the $3.6 million and played football and left the poor and beleaguered people of Afghanistan and Iraq alone."

Because thatís what good people do. They leave the poor and beleaguered alone.

Posted by Tim Blair at May 4, 2004 03:02 AM
Comments

That Pat Tillman is dead and Ted Rall is alive is a cruel joke. I can only hope that Teddy Rall gets his ass handed to him one day very soon.

Posted by: hen at May 4, 2004 at 03:14 AM

About what I'd expect from Ted. But one should never expect too much from pond scum.

Posted by: derf at May 4, 2004 at 03:22 AM

Is that cartoon supposed to be funny? What a leaden, clodhopping piece of dreck (quite apart from the fact that Rall draws like he's wearing boxing gloves).

Posted by: David Gillies at May 4, 2004 at 03:23 AM

Ted Rall has no talent, no wit and his final two brain cells are clearly exhausted (undoubtedly from the effort of attempting to walk and chew gum at the same time).

Posted by: bkayel at May 4, 2004 at 03:24 AM

Let's see how many democratic talking points Ole Teddy fits in to his strip!

Denigrate the military by referring to them as mindless, illiterate Arab killers?

Check.


Ignore the al-qaeda training camps in Afghanistan and refuse to admit that the Taliban sheltered Osama?

Check.

Ignore the connections between Saddam and international terrorism?

Check.

It's all about the OOIIILLLLLL!!!!

Check.

Bring up the non-looting of the museum AGAIN?

Check.

And then to end the strip in leftist insanity, accuse a true hero who gave his life to defend our freedoms by calling him a sap or an idiot?

Check.

Is that like, a record for one strip or something?

What a truly clueless stooge. May he be beaten senseless by a Muslim fanantic one day.



Posted by: Tman at May 4, 2004 at 03:27 AM

Well after wading through the expected asshattery, I was surprised to read that Al Qaida was in Pakistan and not Afghanistan. The next time someone complains about missing Osama at Tora Bora, just reply "Well Ted Rall says he was never there, you're not doubting Ted Rall are you Zionist?"

Then kick him in the nuts

Posted by: monkeyboy at May 4, 2004 at 03:41 AM

I wouldn't worry. This kind of thing over time converts people over to the opposite side because it's so hateful. I know. I'm one of them.

Posted by: AuSkeptic at May 4, 2004 at 03:47 AM

What a maroon.

Posted by: Big Dog at May 4, 2004 at 03:50 AM

Until Ted can produce work like this how can he expect anyone to take him seriously?

Posted by: BC at May 4, 2004 at 03:56 AM

Note to self: 9/11 widows put up more of a fight than you'd think! Next time, safer to attack somebody dead.

Posted by: Ted Rall, 2001 at May 4, 2004 at 03:56 AM

The only good thing that I can think of about this is that it may cause enough of an outrage among those who see it that more papers drop Rall's work.

Posted by: Jim at May 4, 2004 at 04:00 AM

What is truly sad is that servicemen voluntarily give their lives so that ungrateful idiots as Rall may continue to enjoy their freedom of speech.

Posted by: El Jefe at May 4, 2004 at 04:12 AM

Is it good or bad that I've progressed from feeling enraged by things like this to just shaking my head in amazement?

Whoever reads that and agrees isn't worth my time. If I was on the fence and read it, I'd be completely turned off to that ideology.

Posted by: Dash at May 4, 2004 at 04:33 AM

how the f*** does Ted Rall explain that until 9/11, his biggest boogeyman, other than his daddy, was the Taliban? what the F***? check his archives, he used to hate those guys til Bush started having 'em killed.

Posted by: ted ralls daddy at May 4, 2004 at 04:34 AM

Wow! That's really outrageous, Ted! Scandalous! How do you do it???

Too bad your fire has already been stolen by a puerto rican kid from UMASS.

Posted by: S.A. Smith at May 4, 2004 at 04:41 AM

I'm disappointed in Ted. I would have expected him to make fun of Tillman's family as well. He's clearly losing his edge.

Posted by: Emily at May 4, 2004 at 05:03 AM

What a douchebag. What a fucking douchebag.

Posted by: madne0 at May 4, 2004 at 05:04 AM

Perhaps his resentment over not being able to draw (My five year-old niece is a better artist than Rall.) fuels his ill-considered spewage.

Posted by: Anne at May 4, 2004 at 05:05 AM

AuSceptic:

You're obviously an open-minded man with integrity. Welcome aboard.

Posted by: Dave S. at May 4, 2004 at 05:10 AM

Gotta love that compassionate left.

Posted by: JohnFNWayne at May 4, 2004 at 05:33 AM

TO: Everyone
RE: Drop UComics & Tell Them Why

I used to read Calvin and Hobbes, at UComics every day.

After discovering Rall's latest there, I've informed UComics that I'll stop seeing anything on their sites until they drop Ralls.

I recommend all of you send them the same message.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

Posted by: Chuck Pelto at May 4, 2004 at 05:52 AM

TO: Everyone
RE: Here's the Contact UComics URL

Contact UComics

Posted by: Chuck Pelto at May 4, 2004 at 06:01 AM

I continue to shake my head in amazement, that so empty-headed an excuse for a non-artist gets as much press as he does.

If it was merely his ideas, I'd consider his work despicable. But coupled with his sad lack of drawing skills, I have little ability to continue to take him seriously at all.

As a wise man once said: if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck... it's a duck; don't run tests to see if it's a chimpanzee. Similarly, Ted Rall draws like a ten-year-old, writes like a ten-year-old, has all the worldly sophistication of a ten-year-old, and responds to criticism like a ten-year-old.

For my money, he *IS* a ten-year-old, and should be treated as such. 'Nuff said.

cheers,
Daniel in Medford

Posted by: Daniel in Medford at May 4, 2004 at 06:15 AM

God, I wouldn't live inside Ted Rall's head for any money. What a nasty little Gollum he is; craven, whining, obsessed with something completely beyond his reach (like, say, talent?) and ready to stick a shiv in the back of anyone with a scrap more integrity than he has.

Posted by: Sonetka at May 4, 2004 at 06:15 AM

A mental image comes to mind:


Somewhere in America there is a high-school history class. In the third row, right of center there sits a fine young boy. His build has peaked at over six feet with developed broad shoulders. His body makes him perfect for the varsity football team, in which he plays first string Tackle. Therein, under the tough love of his coach and the hopeful cheering of his parents, he struggles to be the best player he can be. He wants to do good enough to maybe get drafted by the state college team, get a scholarship, and from there, work his way up to better things.


His face displays a serious look as he listens to his teacher discuss trustbusting under the Roosevelt/Taft/Wilson administrations, a look uncommon for the typical high school "jock". He knows that getting into college means he needs good grades in high school. Book learning doesn't as easy for him as for the brainiacs in the front row, so he knows he has to buckle down.


But in the end, our young protagonist is fooling himself. Just a month ago, he witnessed on TV terrorist fly planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, along with the rest of the Class of 2002. Since then, it seems like more history went by in the last month than the teacher has discussed all semester. After this year, he knew his foolball days would probably be over.


Instead of college, he'd be going off to join the army and fight in the Middle East. He knew that's what he would have to do. America was at war, he was an healthy young American male of the age to serve, so he would enlist, just like all the men in his family had done during the 40s and the 60s. After that, assuming he comes back alive and in one piece, no college team would want a burnt out old veteran. Nevertheless, he was going to serve. He couldn't fully explain it, but it was just something he had to do. It sounds campy, but he had to do it for the country he loved.


Meanwhile in the back row, sits a wormy, pimply, five-foot-nothing runt doodling bad charactertures of his classmates. The "jock" in the third row is his latest target.


"Always so popular," he thinks, "Always getting cheered on the field, while I sit home and smoke pot. Always getting all the girls while I amuse myself with internet porn. Always getting good grades while I barely pass. I hate you. I hate this school. I hate this country, and I hope you get your ass blown off in Afganistan, you stupid jerk."


He exudes cynical jealousy for his peer, as he does for anyone around him who seems big and strong and brave and patriotic and moral and superior (especially to him). "It all just a scam. He's no better than me and he's no better than those terrorist. The whole world sucks." He soon gets bored with his scribbling. After putting down his pencil down and sitting bleary-eyed at his teacher drone on, he goes back to what he was doing before. Nothing.


Sorry if that's a little to deep for all of you. I'll go back to watching cartoons now.

Posted by: Howard Roark at May 4, 2004 at 06:48 AM

why the fuck is ted rall still alive?

Posted by: Oktober at May 4, 2004 at 07:33 AM

MSNBC, to their credit, pulled it down and distanced themselves from it. I would like to see them ban him permanently for this.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4893131/

Posted by: Dash at May 4, 2004 at 07:43 AM

Forgot to say; Good analogy Howard. That's exactly what he sounds like.

Posted by: Dash at May 4, 2004 at 07:46 AM

Nicely put, Howard.

Posted by: JDB at May 4, 2004 at 08:06 AM

Ha. Brit Hume just showed Rall's cartoon on Fox.

Posted by: Dash at May 4, 2004 at 09:34 AM

Some people never learn! For the love of God, the man just finished a weeks-long whine-a-thon about being dropped by the New York Times. I'm guessing it's only a matter of time before others follow suit (MSNBC?), and we'll be treated to endless Rallblog posts about how he's the victim of censorship and fascism in Ashcroft's America. Spare me!

Posted by: Barry N. Johnson at May 4, 2004 at 09:40 AM

what a dick

Posted by: Al Franken at May 4, 2004 at 09:41 AM

I'm using this on
the DRUNK report today. Thanks for the tip T-dawg (i'll credit you). That's really offensive and stupid and something my audience will be very pissed about.

Posted by: Matt DRUNK at May 4, 2004 at 09:44 AM

Howard,
Good stuff. You should write more often.

Posted by: Robert Blair at May 4, 2004 at 11:12 AM

About Ted Rall
Ted Rall writes for a generation unjustly maligned as a pack of lazy slackers. He voices Generation X's frustration and resentment at the excesses of the baby boomers who've left a spent America in their mammoth wake. Ted's irreverent attitude and deft use of satire combine to make his work as fun to read as it is thought-provoking. And Ted's ability to connect with current culture gives his writing an of-the-moment perspective that is edgy and sharp.


Posted by: Greg at May 4, 2004 at 11:19 AM

Look's like Ted's publicist has found his way into TB's comments string. When you're done selling the good points of Ted, maybe you'd like to explain the benefits of bovine spongiform encephalitis to the rest of us?

Posted by: Habib at May 4, 2004 at 11:49 AM

Oops. Typo. "...deft use of satire" was actually supposed to be "...daft use of satire". And the line about Ted's ability to connect to current culture should probably mention something about how even the New York Times won't carry him, but he is still beloved in local leftist freebie rags, where his fine cartoons can be found wedged between the Phone Sex ads.

But I stand behind my statement that Rall is as "fun to read" as he is "thought-provoking".

Posted by: Greg (Not Sortelli, honest) at May 4, 2004 at 12:05 PM

I find it hard to believe some take him seriously.

However, Alan in Tim Dunlop's blog quotes him about supposed "aid to the Taliban". (Alan's own weblog is Southerly Buster

WILL I GET TO KILL ARABS?

Until the link is clicked on, it sounds as if the "I" is Tim. Quotation marks - are they your friend?

Posted by: Andjam at May 4, 2004 at 12:34 PM

Yeah, Rall's whole "aid to the Taliban" thing has been debunked. You can read about that at SpinSanity. If anyone tries to cite Rall's ramblings about that in an argument, kick them in the nuts. It's IXLNIX grade material.

Posted by: Sortelli at May 4, 2004 at 12:49 PM

There's nothing can appall
Like a 'toon by Ol' Ted Rall,
It's claimed he's not a fan
Of the dreaded Taliban,
But he gets all in a fever
'Bout a now dead wide reciver,
If you think his cartoons stink, well
Drown the fucker in his inkwell.

Posted by: Habib at May 4, 2004 at 12:57 PM

Rall is utter scum. More on that here.

Posted by: Posse Incitatus at May 4, 2004 at 01:04 PM

Maybe Ted Rall can make up for his lost NY Times income by doing spot illos for Micah Wright?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 4, 2004 at 01:36 PM

Rall's going downfighting.From Editor and Publisher tonight. Soon to be seen doing sidewalk cartoons for quarters...

http://tinyurl.com/2n2fb

....When E&P called Rall, he had only received one message about the cartoon. But, as the interview went on, the messages started pouring in. A few were positive, but most were vicious. As Rall opened each e-mail for the first time, he quoted briefly from each one. "You make me sick"; "lies and distortions"; "move to France"; "I pity you"; "disgusting"; "sad and pathetic"; "f--- you, you coward bastard"; "I will s--t on your grave"; "horrendous"; "rot in hell"; "freak"; "I hope you're killed by an Arab terrorist attack"; "people died to publish the b.s. you do."

Rall, who risked his life in Afghanistan himself as a visiting cartoonist/writer after 9/11, told E&P: "The word 'hero' has been bandied about a lot to refer to anyone killed in Afghanistan or Iraq. But anyone who voluntarily goes to Afghanistan or Iraq [as a soldier] is fighting for an evil cause under an evil commander in chief."

"Tillman gave up millions of dollars," Rall added. "To that extent I think he's admirable, but the cause is not. ... He would have been a better person and a better husband if he took the $3.6 million and played football and left the poor and beleaguered people of Afghanistan and Iraq alone."

Posted by: Fred at May 4, 2004 at 02:04 PM

Rall's going downfighting.From Editor and Publisher tonight. Soon to be seen doing sidewalk cartoons for quarters...

http://tinyurl.com/2n2fb

....When E&P called Rall, he had only received one message about the cartoon. But, as the interview went on, the messages started pouring in. A few were positive, but most were vicious. As Rall opened each e-mail for the first time, he quoted briefly from each one. "You make me sick"; "lies and distortions"; "move to France"; "I pity you"; "disgusting"; "sad and pathetic"; "f--- you, you coward bastard"; "I will s--t on your grave"; "horrendous"; "rot in hell"; "freak"; "I hope you're killed by an Arab terrorist attack"; "people died to publish the b.s. you do."

Rall, who risked his life in Afghanistan himself as a visiting cartoonist/writer after 9/11, told E&P: "The word 'hero' has been bandied about a lot to refer to anyone killed in Afghanistan or Iraq. But anyone who voluntarily goes to Afghanistan or Iraq [as a soldier] is fighting for an evil cause under an evil commander in chief."

"Tillman gave up millions of dollars," Rall added. "To that extent I think he's admirable, but the cause is not. ... He would have been a better person and a better husband if he took the $3.6 million and played football and left the poor and beleaguered people of Afghanistan and Iraq alone."

Posted by: Fred at May 4, 2004 at 02:04 PM

I have to respond to that cartoon.

I didn't support the war on Iraq but did back America'a actions in Afghanistan.

Nevertheless, when I heard about Tillman I was almost moved to tears. Without prompting, the first thought that came into my head was "hero".

The cartoon is puerile beyond words. Most 12-year-olds would be embarrassed by it, irrespective of their views on US foreign policy.

Who is this Rall idiot?

Posted by: BH at May 4, 2004 at 02:25 PM

'Better person .. better husband'

Who's Ted rall to make that call? Some kind of god?

Posted by: ilibcc at May 4, 2004 at 02:26 PM

Note to Fred: we didn't need to read this twice (just click once and wait, the comment script is a tad slow); and having some magazine fawn all over you (in the form of lauds like "risked his life in Afghanistan" -- as I recall, he spent a few days in some hotel in Kabul, and his columns were no more informed about the situation in that country than columns from someone writing on the same subject from a New York office building) is not exactly "going down fighting." It's more like "going down on your cell mate so he'll protect you from the other prison bullies."

Posted by: Andrea Harris at May 4, 2004 at 02:29 PM

If anyone can use the dead to make a point or boost their own egos they are psychopaths.

Posted by: Peter Bocking at May 4, 2004 at 02:30 PM

Actually, he'd be doing the people of Afghanistan a favor if he did kill Arabs there, since the Afghans aren't Arab and the Arab Mujahadeen have brought them nothing but evil. The Taliban were the products of Saudi financed madrassahs. But I guess Rall doesn't know that or care. It wouldn't be funny if he had Tillman (amazing likeness, btw) say, "Will I get to kill Pashtuns?"

How this art-challenged, humor-challenged and humanity-challenged jackass finds any work at all is a greater mystery every day.

Posted by: AST at May 4, 2004 at 02:37 PM

BH, next time you hear a tirade about vicious anti-American commie scumbags who are actively cheering for the other side, remember Ted Rall. He's real, he's taken seriously (his cartoons showed on MSNBC, after all), and he is, in fact, a self-proclaimed Marxist.

You're obviously sensible enough not to associate with people like him so it may seem like some of us are making these people up when we start raving about them, but they are real.

Posted by: Sortelli at May 4, 2004 at 02:57 PM

And someone actually pays this Ted Crawl character to say these things? That's the saddest part of all.
Go and do something useful, Ted.

Posted by: kwol at May 4, 2004 at 03:01 PM

"Because thatís what good people do. They leave the poor and beleagured alone."

Brilliant Tim. Epitaph of the Western left. (I hope).

Posted by: CurrencyLad at May 4, 2004 at 04:50 PM

How can this c@nt walk down the street without
being beaten to pulp.

Posted by: fred at May 4, 2004 at 05:10 PM

Yes - leave the poor people of Iraq and Afghanistan alone to the tender mercies of Saddam and the Taliban.

Let me use one of those favourite leftie principles - All that is required for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing? So what is Ted advocating here? Pathetic weasel.

Posted by: Rob at May 4, 2004 at 05:17 PM

It is because of lines like the last one of that post that i read this site. Brilliant work Mr Blair.

Posted by: attila at May 4, 2004 at 06:50 PM

Thats one nasty cartoon. Fuck Rall.

Posted by: Stewart Kelly at May 4, 2004 at 07:46 PM

This isn't even Rall's worst work.

A few years ago, before the war, 9/11, Bush, or Iraq, my local free weekly alternative paper ran a cartoon by Rall that was so snotty and offensive, it almost bent time and space.

It portrayed Arlington Military Cemetary. The headstones were engraved with words like "Chump", "Loser", "Fool", "Sucker". The caption read HAPPY MEMORIAL DAY. This was Ted Rall's middle finger to fallen veterans, their sacrifice and the country they sacrificed for, for Memorial Day.

This was over 4 years ago, and the son of a bitch has not had the guts to upload it to the internet or put it in his archives. You'll just have to take my word for this.

I've hated the motherfucker ever since.

Posted by: Moonbat_One at May 4, 2004 at 08:23 PM

Rall never misses a chance to offend people

http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=008Icg

Posted by: Scottie at May 4, 2004 at 09:50 PM

I'd call Ted Rall a douchebag, but that would be offensive to douchebags everywhere.

Posted by: BarCodeKing at May 5, 2004 at 01:48 AM

And I liked the "I'll shit on your grave" e-mail that somebody sent to Rall. Sounds like a plan. And whenever that day may come, I'll be sure to have an extra bran muffin or two, just so that ol' Ted can get full measure.

Posted by: BarCodeKing at May 5, 2004 at 01:56 AM

Rall, who risked his life in Afghanistan himself as a visiting cartoonist/writer after 9/11,..

Oooooh, some dumbass cartoonist "risks his life" by visiting Afghanistan. Such bravery.

Posted by: Bashir Gemayel at May 5, 2004 at 01:57 AM

Fred:

How manyh times have I heard that question.
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Posted by: Hudson at May 5, 2004 at 02:03 AM

Rall is quoted as an authoritative and respectable source in today's Chicago Tribune. (In the arts section, on page one, above the fold.) A good indication of how far journalism has declined.

Posted by: Paul Stinchfield at May 5, 2004 at 03:52 AM

So, why does John Rocker get booted from sports teams and sent to sensitivity training for things that are nowhere near as offensive as this crap?

Posted by: JohnFNWayne at May 5, 2004 at 12:28 PM

WHAT A COMPLETE IDIOT!

Posted by: Brian. at May 6, 2004 at 01:48 AM


All this spewing about Tim Rall seems the height of hypocrisy coming from radical right wing nuts who are spending half their time trying to smear a highly-decorated soldier named John Kerry.

Over and again you nuts, in your pandering way, whine about supporting the troops. Well the last time I checked, John Kerry was a troop, one who one the silver and bronze stars and three purple hearts.

Meanwhile you support a president who has gotten us into a catastrophic quagmire with no exit strategy, and people like Pat Tillman are dying.

Moreover, the bush administration diverted $700 million from the war in Afghanistan, where Tillman was fighting, for his pet project in Iraq. And what are you doing? Spouting off about a CARTOON.

Incredible. But so predictable.

Posted by: dsmith at May 7, 2004 at 08:59 AM


Not to mention your rabid, venemous anger, including saying things like you wish Ted Rall was dead. And you say you're better than he is?

Posted by: dsmith at May 7, 2004 at 09:00 AM


The hypocrisy on this site is truly breathtaking. You want to talk about offensive, take a look at what these troops were doing to other human beings. You can't have it both ways.

Posted by: dsmith at May 7, 2004 at 09:03 AM

And by the way, when speaking about "risking his life", how many of you yahoos have done that? Oh, right. About the same number as bush and his "hawks": zero. Bush, AWOL from the national guard. Rummy serve? No. Cheney? Uh, no.

Not to mention Rush Limbaugh, who lied about what got him out of Vietnam, saying it was a football knee injury when it was some kind of cyst. Talk about courage!

Posted by: dsmith at May 7, 2004 at 09:06 AM


And now, today's comforting words from the Supreme-Court elected bonehead: "The first time, uh, I saw those images, uh, was on TV."

Way to be on top of things, shrub.

Posted by: dsmith at May 7, 2004 at 09:08 AM

Hey, the REAL hero are outstanding citizens like yourself, who spew hatred, lies and misinformation, who support one of the most inept, arrogant, deceitful, cynical, radical administrations in the history of this country.

Way to go, Tim Blair, way to go. You're a real hero to the U.S.S.A.

Posted by: dsmith at May 7, 2004 at 09:26 AM