April 25, 2004

BUSH RELIGIONISTS CONDEMNED!

Phillip Adams lashes out at those who would question or criticise him:

There is a new sort of Australian in public life who, accusing fellow Australians of being unAustralian, expresses his or her patriotism by singing Hail To The Chief rather than Waltzing Matilda. These whackers, hereinafter known as Bushwhackers, congregate in right-wing politics, shock-jockery and both tabloid and broadsheet punditry. They worship George Bush Jr.

Why would Bushwhackers -- whackers of Bush -- worship him? In fact, they don’t.

To them, Dubya is no mere president but the Messiah. As such, he’s the second coming, sharing the name and intensifying the ideological proclivities of George Bush Snr. So devout are the Bushwhackers, they see even his lies as sacred texts. The Bushwhackers’ president, their burning Bush, is transcendent, and God help anyone who blasphemes with questioning or criticism.

Phil imagines that his shallowness, distortions, mistakes, idiocies, blindness, confusion, and incompetence amount to “questioning” and “criticism”. God help him.

Such is the passion of Australia’s Bushwhackers that their patriotism is not directed at the Australian flag they profess to love, but at the Stars and Stripes. To them, the United States is truly the land of the brave, the home of the free, and, yes, has a manifest destiny to dominate and democratise the entire planet, according to the dogmas of their omniscient and omnipresent prophet – and his hyperactive disciples, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.

Sounds like Phil is accusing us right-wingers of being ... traitors.

Having wrapped themselves in both flags, any previous and primary allegiance to our country is sublimated in a rapturous acquiescence to theirs.

Excuse me, Phil, but it isn’t us US suckups who keep rewriting articles from America.

The likes of Tim Blair and Imre Salusinszky, of Gerard Henderson and Andrew Bolt, ignore Bush’s long history of mediocrity and mendacity. They and their ilk turn deaf ears to documented accounts of his sleazy business affairs and seem indifferent to the fact that, as governor of Texas ("all Stetson, no cattle"), he set an all-time record by approving the executions of 150 people.

Indifferent? Hey, I applaud it.

Bush’s business connections with big oil, indeed with the bin Laden family, with many of the worst sleazes in American corporate life (up to and including the grand larcenists of Exxon), mean nothing to his grovelling acolytes in Australia who fill their speeches, their broadcasts or their newspaper columns with uncritical drivel and bunkum. Week after week they try to out-twaddle and out-bunkum each other, their styles recalling the obeisances of palace eunuchs or the propagandists of Kim Il Sung. And they don’t hesitate to produce snarling slanders on anyone who sees Bush for what he is.

You want snarling slander? Here’s a fine example.

This is the most intriguing and ominous aspect of their behaviour – their tendency to brand dissidents as traitors. To criticise Bush’s brand of hegemony is anti-American. (Of course, if that’s true, at least 50 per cent of Americans are guilty of this heresy.) Moreover, Australian critics of Bush are deemed, by extension, to be anti-Australian.

According to Phil, the “most intriguing and ominous aspect” of our behaviour is our “tendency” to brand the anti-Bush crowd as traitors. Got stacks of evidence to back this up, Phil? I mean, if it’s a tendency, you must have reams of quotes from me and Imre and Henderson and Bolt repeatedly slamming people who disagree with Bush as “traitors”, right?

Consider former treasury secretary Paul O’Neill’s simultaneously hilarious and horrifying revelations about Bush. His verdict on meetings between Bush and his senior people? Like "a blind man in a roomful of the deaf". Now former White House counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke has revealed that the Bush Administration downplayed terrorism as an issue – and that national security advisor Condoleezza Rice, when briefed on the emergency and immensity of the threat, seemed not to have heard of al-Qa’ida.

Adams hasn’t heard of research.

Joe McCarthy’s body lies mouldering in the grave but his nasty little soul goes marching on. But do not despair. This too shall pass. The Bushfires will be extinguished and, after a while, we’ll see a regrowth in American democracy. And in ours?

Those who disagree with Adams are McCarthyites. This just might count as another “snarling slander”.

UPDATE. Reader MB points out that Phil doesn’t know his Exxons from his Enrons.

UPDATE II. More on the moron from Professor Bunyip, Bernie Slattery, and the Gnu Hunter.

Posted by Tim Blair at April 25, 2004 02:39 AM
Comments

"...with many of the worst sleazes in American corporate life (up to and including the grand larcenists of Exxon)..."

Exxon??? Now I wouldn't want to accuse Phil of confusing Exxon with Enron but...well, you decide.

Slightly OT: It seems those Japanese who were taken hostage in Iraq aren't exactly being welcomed home as heros.

Freed From Captivity in Iraq, Japanese Return to More Pain.


Posted by: MB at April 25, 2004 at 03:01 AM

"he set an all-time record by approving the executions of 150 people"

Of course, he approved zero. Texas gives no such authority to the governor.

Posted by: David at April 25, 2004 at 03:22 AM

Admit it, Tim. You made that up. No one that crazy could have written anything after being pumped full of lithium...oh, crap, the link...

My eyes! They're blind! My brain! It's spiraling out of control! There is a real Phillip Adams and he isn't locked up in the Jello Hotel! AAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Posted by: ushie at April 25, 2004 at 03:24 AM

Bush doesn't care about his grades: He must be a bad person.

Posted by: aaron at April 25, 2004 at 03:24 AM

I can't imagine where Adams got his crazy idea that conservatives like to accuse others of treason. Nope, not at all.

Posted by: vaara at April 25, 2004 at 03:39 AM

Vaara:

If you read Tim's post a bit more closely....

There is a new sort of Australian in public life who, accusing fellow Australians of being unAustralian, expresses his or her patriotism by singing Hail To The Chief rather than Waltzing Matilda.

Emphasis is mine.

Now, Phil is talking about Australians here. Australia is not part of the United States, but an ally, a fellow nation. So quoting the New York Sun (an American paper) about treason is not appropriate.

To quote Tim from above:

According to Phil, the “most intriguing and ominous aspect” of our behaviour is our “tendency” to brand the anti-Bush crowd as traitors. Got stacks of evidence to back this up, Phil? I mean, if it’s a tendency, you must have reams of quotes from me and Imre and Henderson and Bolt repeatedly slamming people who disagree with Bush as “traitors”, right?

So, as Tim asks.....got any Australian quotes like that?

And, y'know, the INTERNET is a good thing....it does break down international barriers, even with those that want them!

Posted by: JeffS at April 25, 2004 at 03:51 AM

As is typical of assholes like this, there is no mention of Islamist fundalmentalist terrorism, Saddam's aim to be Caliph or any of the multitude of wars and atrocities around the world in the name of Islam.

The war being waged against us infidels is the ISSUE, not GWB

Posted by: Ted at April 25, 2004 at 03:58 AM

Nice job finding one lone nut from a paper no one's ever heard of.

Posted by: aaron at April 25, 2004 at 03:59 AM

God - you people are ignorant. Do you not realise that you and your ilk are seen around the world as ill-educated rednecks. It's almost a sport in the UK and around Europe to find more and more such sites as this to look at - like going to a freakshow. That you support a government that lies to its people, controls the media, bullies dissenters and grows fat off the misfortune of others - just like, say, the old Soviet Union you no doubt despised.

That you have no idea of the wider world and what's going on. Democracy - don't make me laugh. And your country ISN'T that great. Your beer is terrible. You're all getting fat. You're all shrinking.

You're living in a huge fearful, violent, gun-toting, ignorant culture populated by small, fat people with red necks, drinking crap beer and being laughed at by the healthy happy people in the countries around the world that you love to make fun of.

How does it feel?

A Tall Brit

Posted by: abrit at April 25, 2004 at 04:03 AM

Need a search party yourself there Aaron?

Posted by: CurrencyLad at April 25, 2004 at 04:07 AM

Tall Brit. Is that a Cockney spoonerism?

Posted by: CurrencyLad at April 25, 2004 at 04:09 AM

Quick. Get the key and lock up the asylum. They are getting loose.

Posted by: Ted at April 25, 2004 at 04:11 AM

Ah - Brall Tit. I see what you did there.

Posted by: abrit at April 25, 2004 at 04:14 AM

Dear "A Tall Brit":

You're living in a huge fearful, violent, gun-toting, ignorant culture populated by small, fat people with red necks, drinking crap beer and being laughed at by the healthy happy people in the countries around the world that you love to make fun of.

How does it feel?

Y'know, I could rant on about your drivel. But it's not worth it. So, in response to your last question....

I love all of it, especially since your own narrow minded, self centered, and hate filled view is wrong.

Except the crap beer, which we are steadily working on. God bless capitalism! I just wish those Aussies would stop dumping their Foster's horse piss up here.

Posted by: JeffS at April 25, 2004 at 04:22 AM

COCKNEY spoonerism: bal' tit. Didn't you ever watch that show featuring tall, healthy Britons - Steptoe & Son?

We're forgiving people though. Next time you sophisticates in Europe need some New World simpletons to come rescue you, just let us know.

It's the least we can do for you dear old things.


Posted by: CurrencyLad at April 25, 2004 at 04:24 AM

Thing is, most of the praise for Bush from the right in Australia relates to the fitness and efficacy of his policy in response to September 11. For this he is admired. And, yes, against his shallow and duplicitous critics he is heartily defended. But I can't think of a single mainstream commentator whose praise for Bush the man is fulsome, as regards his person. This is entirely an invention of Adams who is one of the worst serial vilifiers of persons writing in Australian newspapers today.

His hatred of people is pathological and deeply personal. A wealthy and propertied man, he speaks for the powerless and the dispossessed. An accumulator of other nations' antiquities, he deplores the commercialisation and destruction of culture. An olive rancher, he ridicules Bush for being "all Stetson and no cattle." A pretend atheist, he is morbidly obsessed with God and desperate for someone Christic to save him.

Regarding John Howard as the least noteworthy Prime Minister of Australia ever, Adams nevertheless revisits him like a compulsive graffitist returning to a rail-car to spray his artless tag for the thousandth time. A famous grandstander on Aboriginal issues, I can remember no Adams series of essays written from isolated Aboriginal communities which dealt with their lives of deprivation from ground zero. That's because those communities couldn't give a rodent's bottom who he thinks he is in his faux-advocate's imagination.

The Prime Ministers he worships are Gough Whitlam and Paul Keating, the two most imperious, Aussie-culture-loathing, elistist wreckers ever to hold the office. These two did immense damage to the economy and to the prospects of all those sexist, homophobic, overall-wearing, blue-collar workers Adams would be embarrassed to sit next to at the Old Left's Christmas Lunch. (And who PJK and Gough would rather have scrubbed from the family tree altogether).

Adams attacks conservative commentators for being courtiers, which is exactly what he has been to the Labor Party for thirty years. He thinks it scandalous that George W. Bush approved the executions of 150 criminals while Governor of Texas. Intriguingly, he does not consider it actionable that Saddam Hussein murdered about 300,000 citizens and dropped chemical weapons on northern Iraq's equivalent of displaced aborigines.

To give him some credit, however, he has become an institution. He is the very personification of the modern left: grey, ageing, bitter, erratic, hateful, morally vain, exhausted, pathetic.

Had he made that journey to remote aboriginal Australia he may have learned a few home truths about politics for a man of letters: you can't hypothetically love people from the vantage of isolated wealth, you can't solve every problem with speeches and bags of money - regardless of what dear old Gough and Nugget Coombs used to say - and, finally, as the Bible teaches, old dogs really do return to their vomit.

And that's sad.

Posted by: CurrencyLad at April 25, 2004 at 04:42 AM

Steptoe and Son as before my time but I do know what a spoonerism is. Funny how I decided to see what reponses I'd get out of interest and the actual issues are ignored and you end up arguing about grammer.

I did resort to base insults, but then here's just one excerpt from this site "Mark Lawson is a 100-kilogram albino axolotl, not a journalist" so I kind of thought I'd adopt the same tone. If you can't take it don't dish it out and all that. As for rescuing us, I take it you mean the 2nd World War that you neglected to join until long after people like, say, my Grandfather's brother had been killed. Anyhow, thanks though. And you enjoyed that war so much you now just have to go around making up reasons to start new ones?

And, yes I know the terrorists started it - that's your belief isn't it, and it had nothing to do with American foreign policy of the last few decades. And Bush is a wise, well-travelled man, and an excellent diplomat.

Posted by: abrit at April 25, 2004 at 04:46 AM

I suppose it does have to do with America's foreign policy a little. Like not always cleaning up everone else's messes.

Posted by: aaron at April 25, 2004 at 04:53 AM

I'm Australian friend. We were 39ers.

We didn't rescue Britain, we were her proud allies. We all rescued Europe from its most sinister demons. And we're still allies with you god-awful, god-loveable Brits.

Long may that be so.

Posted by: CurrencyLad at April 25, 2004 at 04:54 AM

abrit

Open your eyes.Turn around. They are coming after you next.

Posted by: Ted at April 25, 2004 at 04:55 AM

I would have never thought that the perceived quality of American beer and a person's body weight could reveal such sweeping truths about a nation. I wonder if bad teeth and throwing tax dollars at a bunch of Camelot rejects counts for anything (speaking of growing fat off the misfortune of others). Of course, no one lies or commits violent acts in Great Britain, so the feelings of superiority are understandable. And surely the BBC is the paragon of unbiased, objective journalism, set apart from any political agenda. Yep, with certainty, Americans are ignorant ... they have bad beer, dontchyaknow? We'll just forget about all those pesky acheivements, like the computer, operating system, and web browser Tall Brit used to post his message.

Posted by: Byter at April 25, 2004 at 04:57 AM

"I would have never thought that the perceived quality of American beer and a person's body weight could reveal such sweeping truths about a nation"

Especially when the nation in the article and post are about is Australia.

Posted by: David at April 25, 2004 at 04:59 AM

If abrit were ranting and raving at Hyde Park Corner we would chuckle and move along. Sounds good to me.

Posted by: Ted at April 25, 2004 at 05:07 AM

Do you not realise that you and your ilk are seen around the world as ill-educated rednecks.

We Australians realize this, and don't care. Do you realize that Australians see Britain as a crime-ridden, dirty sinkhole with some of the lowest-brow media in existence?

That you support a government that lies to its people...

A government that lies? My gracious--where are my smelling salts?

...controls the media...

Here's a fun game: I'm going to make up names of entirely hypothetical media outlets that would publish dissenting opinions, if the (US? Australian?) government wasn't controlling the media...

Z Magazine, The Nation, Mother Jones, The New Republic, Dissent, The New Internationalist, Air America, Radio Pacifica, NPR, Indymedia, The New York Times, the LA Times, Counterpunch.org, CNN, Harpers, ...

...bullies dissenters...

See above. I see you've noticed how timid Michael Moore, Ted Rall, Noam Chomsky, Al Franken, Kos, Atrios, Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn, and Eric Alterman have been lately. Barely a peep from them, eh?

...and grows fat off the misfortune of others...

Er ... Care to explain?

...just like, say, the old Soviet Union you no doubt despised...

Why yes, because we troglodytes have an unaccountable loathing for expansionist totalitarian ideologues that murder millions of their own citizens in every single place they gain power. Sorry about that.

You're living in a huge fearful, violent, gun-toting, ignorant culture populated by small, fat people with red necks, drinking crap beer and being laughed at by the healthy happy people in the countries around the world that you love to make fun of.

How does it feel?

The world is laughing at Australians? Again? Oh, well.

Posted by: reg at April 25, 2004 at 05:12 AM

Tall Brit

I agree with you that American foreign policy lead to 9-11. Our policy of appeasing those who would attack our citizens and intrests lead to ever more bold attacks. That is the legacy of those "diplomatic" presidents who proceeded Bush in office. However the response to 9-11 would have been similar even if Bill Clinton had been in office. A strong response was demanded by a large portion of Americans.

And just for your personal reference the US sure does generate a large percentage of the worlds patents and discoveries each year for such a group of ignorant rednecks.

Posted by: Sasquach at April 25, 2004 at 05:12 AM

Especially when the nation in the article and post are about is Australia.

Dang, David, you got me there, and I pointed the same thing out earlier. It's just that I never thought of Australia having bad beer or fat people -- that's usually the description usually to us bloody Yanks. And I didn't think that a Brit would be knocking down Australia.

My apologies. Next time, I won't be so self-centered myself.

But I still wish you'd send Foster's somewhere else. :-)

Posted by: JeffS at April 25, 2004 at 05:15 AM

He meant Australians were violent, gun toting, ignorant rednecks?? No wonder I love you folks.

Posted by: Sasquach at April 25, 2004 at 05:18 AM

PS: I also thought that "gun-toting" also referred to the USA, since Australia confiscated all of yours. Sorry to hear that! But clearly Mr. Twit Troll was a trifle confused as well.

Posted by: JeffS at April 25, 2004 at 05:18 AM

What's worse, A Short Twit doesn't even know how to post a link. Even though I have the directions right there above the comment entry box. In red, so that even Boil Pips can see it.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at April 25, 2004 at 05:28 AM

Amusing that a British person would feel confident to lecture anyone about past foreign policy.

Posted by: goldsmith at April 25, 2004 at 05:33 AM

JeffS,

It was A Tall Brit's provincialism I was referring to. As a response to him you had it right.

I've got to get back behind that plow; this neck isn't going to get red all on it's own.

Posted by: David at April 25, 2004 at 05:43 AM

At least japan knows not to celebrate people who dont take health and saftey advice.

We have all these people going into war zones or getting stuck in the middle of the ocean on boats or other results of stupid decisions and then demanding that we go save them. Well maybe we will but they damn well should have to pay for it.

Posted by: Scottie at April 25, 2004 at 05:50 AM

Hehe, strange that a sociallist would knock the working class...oh wait, no it isn't.

Posted by: aaron at April 25, 2004 at 07:00 AM

Tim,

"Those who disagree with Adams are McCarthyites. This just might count as another “snarling slander”."

Isn't it libel because it's in writing. It may not be because it may be interperated to not be directed at specific persons. However, he clearly, and falsely, identifies you as a member of this imaginary group with it's imaginary negative characteristics: that's libel.

Posted by: aaron at April 25, 2004 at 07:29 AM

At first reading I actually thought that "Tall Brit" must be a parody - his first post managed to include pretty much ALL the usual, well-worn, uninformed clichés and prejudices that people over here in Europe love to trot out about the US. I didn't think it was possible to be so stupid, but given his subsequent posts, I guess he's taking it all seriously. Poor lad.

I did like how he echoed Phat Phil's sneering comments about democracy. Yeah, it's such a joke, it's absolutely incomprehensible why people just might prefer defending democracy over adopting sharia law, ain't it.

I'm not usually in the habit of wishing ill things on people, but I can't say I'd mind too much if Tall Brit were in the vicinity if Abdul Haq got his wish fulfilled.

Posted by: PW at April 25, 2004 at 07:34 AM

Democracy is used because it is an inefficient form of goverment. It can provide most necessary regulation, but isn't easily changed or added to. We have a representative democracy in the US because it allows every one to be involved in government and also allows them to go about their own business rather than be involved with every decision. So, people can focus on doing what they're good at.

Posted by: aaron at April 25, 2004 at 08:05 AM

Well I like Phil. Looks like he hit the nail on the head. Seems you found offense in his factual analysis of on on going problem that isn't just indigenous to Australia. Alot of Americans are following him like he's the second coming. Good thing my bible warned me about false prophets ahead of time.

Posted by: IXLNXS at April 25, 2004 at 08:20 AM

IXie, that's false profits. That section of the bible was originally discussing double-entry bookkeeping, but something got lost in translation.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at April 25, 2004 at 08:48 AM

Before you blokes and blokesses start bashing Brits in general,may I say that the Long Streak of Piss doesn't speak for the sixty million of us.

Posted by: Peter UK at April 25, 2004 at 08:51 AM

The likes of Tim Blair and Imre Salusinszky, of Gerard Henderson and Andrew Bolt...

Thanks, Phil. I knew there were some people I needed to buy beers when I visit Oz, wasn't entirely clear exactly who they were.

Posted by: rosignol at April 25, 2004 at 09:30 AM

Well I like Phil.

A PLAY IN ONE ACT

(Curtain lifts to reveal a library with a warm fire. A fat man sits in a rocking chair, presiding over an audience of one)
Phil: (Shifting uncomfortably in his chair, droppping bits of his sandwich onto his belly) "People who like Bush are like crazy irrational people!"
IXL: (at Adams' feet, gazing up in reverence) "Holy crap! I totally believe that to be true!"
Phil: "That's because it is true. And anyone who disagrees is probably a traitor. I mean, accusing us of being traitors."
IXL: "The traitors!"
Phil: "It's a good thing there are people like me who are brave enough to take tax dollars to stand up to these crazy, surpressive governments"
IXL: "I like you Phil."
Phil: (Lays a hand upon IXL's head) "I like you too."

Posted by: Sortelli at April 25, 2004 at 09:44 AM

Wasn't INXLSX a nemesis of Superman's, from the 8th dimension? If I remember correctly, the only way to return him to his home was to trick him into saying his name backwards...

So, how do we get INXLSLXS to say "I'm a clueless idjit" backwards?

Posted by: Jerry at April 25, 2004 at 09:46 AM

To continue the "Keating = LBJ + Howard Dean" meme... I think the nearest Aust'n parallel to Dubya is Alexander Downer. Both are regularly derided by the Left as amicable buffoons anytime that they aren't being deried by the Left as sinister conspirators. Both had a father and grandad who held high national office (AD's gramps, Sir John Downer, was one of Aust's founding fathers in 1900). Both were seen, when they first became party leader, as less right-wing than usual (Downer was seen as a "wet" or "small-L" Liberal; Dubya as a "compassionate conservative") but they're now firmly entrenched in the pantheon of right-wing death beasts.

Though Downer lost the leadership after a short time (1 or 2 years, from memory). Was he less successful than GWB, then? Well, when Downer became Liberal leader in 1994-95, some of the pundits were seriously questioning whether that party had a future (it was the 50th anniv of Menzies' founding it). Then, in 1996, the Libs won office federally with a huge majority (with the Nationals they won about two-thirds of the House of Reps seats).

Posted by: Uncle Milk at April 25, 2004 at 09:50 AM

Don't you love fucktards like "a tall shit"?

"God - you people are ignorant. Do you not realise that you and your ilk are seen around the world as ill-educated rednecks. It's almost a sport in the UK and around Europe to find more and more such sites as this to look at - like going to a freakshow. That you support a government that lies to its people, controls the media, bullies dissenters and grows fat off the misfortune of others - just like, say, the old Soviet Union you no doubt despised.

That you have no idea of the wider world and what's going on. Democracy - don't make me laugh. And your country ISN'T that great. Your beer is terrible. You're all getting fat. You're all shrinking.

You're living in a huge fearful, violent, gun-toting, ignorant culture populated by small, fat people with red necks, drinking crap beer and being laughed at by the healthy happy people in the countries around the world that you love to make fun of.

How does it feel?"

A Tall Brit

hmmm. I'd guess ignorance is posting this ode
to America at an Australian site.

PPS: Only a fucken pommy could be happy and healthy living in Salford on a diet of fish and
chips.

Fuck off and have a bath.

Posted by: fred at April 25, 2004 at 10:04 AM

Gosh, I thought you went overboard with Pilger. He regards our troops as "legitimate targets", and you all but accuse him of treason!

Posted by: Andjam at April 25, 2004 at 10:21 AM

We tried that, Jerry. But his dimension won't take him back, they banished him here for good.

Posted by: Sortelli at April 25, 2004 at 10:28 AM

Tim,

I think it is mean of you to beat up on Phillip Adams. The poor guy hasn't had anything original to say in decades, yet he persists in writing the most boring, the most utterly predictable tirades, week in, week out. Just how he merits the label "progressive" escapes me.
But, as Imre says, he does provide some comic relief.

Posted by: Tony at April 25, 2004 at 10:44 AM

Actually, we Oklahomans have a higher rate of the death penalty than Texas.
Bush is always getting criticized by outsiders for the Texas death penalty, but these people never bother to check Texas law.
You see, the Texas governor has little power over executions.http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/tsw/stories/011303dntexdeathpenalty.1c96d21e.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/822065/posts

This is another little fact that the NYTimes and other liberals never bothered to fact check.

Posted by: NANCY REYES at April 25, 2004 at 12:35 PM

Tall Brit

God - you people are ignorant. Do you not realise that you and your ilk are seen around the world as ill-educated rednecks rant rant


God forbid we should be viewed in the same way as europeans view the educated english football crowds
your beer is terrible. You're all getting fat. You're all shrinking....

EEH by Gum! where s a pint of that luke warm Whitbread ale and a plate of blacpudding and drippings !
Won't eat any of that foreign muck they serve up in Spain. . How i miss the sophistication of the brits.
You're living in a huge fearful, violent, gun-toting, ignorant culture populated by small, fat people with red necks, drinking crap beer and being laughed at by the healthy happy people ....

the more people believe your CRAP the less we will have to out up woth your grey blotchy brits over here, keep spreading the word..
With our applalling diet, How come we still beat the sh*t out of brits in every sport under the sun.
How does it feel to live in Yorkshire. world capital of serial killers ?
Keep taking the pills

Posted by: CHamberlain at April 25, 2004 at 01:03 PM

INXLSX: Are you saying AMERICANS are following Phil Adams like he is the second coming???I am an American and I have never heard of him outside of Tim, Bunyip ,and other Aussie right wing death beasts.....of course we have so many chattering class blowhards here, he may have gotten lost in the shuffle.

Posted by: debbie at April 25, 2004 at 01:08 PM

Philip Adam is a geat asset to the Australian.
He better than anyone reveals the quality of thinking of the Newleft for what it is.(Apologies to Pilger).
my grandfather is again vindicated in his saying.
every village deserves a village idiot, if only to serve as a bad exemple to others.
Adams rantings serve well to expose the superior articles of the likes of Greg Sheridan.

Posted by: DAVO at April 25, 2004 at 01:10 PM

as governor of Texas ("all Stetson, no cattle"), he set an all-time record by approving the executions of 150 people.

The only thing we Texans disapprove of, it that it wasn't 300.

Posted by: Wallace at April 25, 2004 at 01:59 PM

Better watch out, Debbie, you might be hearing a lot more about Phil in the years to come.
If the Australia/America free-trade agreement goes through, writers such as Adams and Greg Sheridan will crush the puny American media-system.
The chattering classes shall become your chattering masters.

Posted by: TimT at April 25, 2004 at 02:39 PM

as governor of Texas ("all Stetson, no cattle"), he set an all-time record by approving the executions of 150 people.

Except he had no power to disapprove.

Sure, most U.S. governors have the authority to issue pardons on their own initiative. But in Texas, the governor has no such authority -- he may only issue a pardon "on the written signed recommendation and advice of the Board of Pardons and Paroles, or a majority thereof."

If the board doesn't vote to pardon, the governor can, at most, issue one 30-day stay of execution. That's it.

Posted by: Warmongering Lunatic at April 25, 2004 at 02:56 PM

It's good to see that there are smart people in all of the countries in this thread (Australia, Britain, and America) who think Phil Adams is a useless idiot, and that his minions (like IXLJERK and Short Twit) are little more than drooling idiots themselves.

Or as Sortelli puts it, little dogs laying at the feet of their master.

Posted by: JeffS at April 25, 2004 at 03:07 PM

Tall Brit:

In reply to your question of how it feels to be living in "a huge fearful, violent, gun-toting, ignorant culture populated by small, fat people with red necks, drinking crap beer and being laughed at by the healthy happy people etc etc ..."

Since I live in Australia, I really wouldnt know how it feels to live in such a country.. I think your misguided description must be of some other place. Especially the 'gun-toting' bit - Australia has stringent gun laws (with which I disagree, just for the record)- we are not, and never have been, a gun-toting culture. The only people 'toting' guns (besides our native Australian crims) are the Muslim thugs allowed in by the idiot ALP government of the time.

As for the rest - in a nutshell, Australians are not 'fearful' (the thousands who ignored government warnings not to attend Gallipoli would have a good laugh at this statement). Ignorant? I'm sure there are ignorant Aussies - but probably not as many as those in the huge welfare-dependent underclass in Britain.

And 'Small fat people'? This is not a description of the average Australian - but of course, the food here is vastly superior to that in Britain. I see British backpackers every day - most are pale and unhealthy looking, and many have the foulest mouths I have ever heard and the worst manners I have ever seen. I know people who have moved house because of the situation created by backpackers.

And 'laughed at by the world'? Oh please - do you know how many would-be immigrants Australia refuses every year? Britain, in fact, makes a much better laughing stock - with your unfortunate propensity to roll over for Islamic thugs and give in to their every demand, not to mention the widespread fascination with programs like "Neighbours" (most popular in Britain) and scrubbers like Kylie Minogue (another Australian export).

So laugh away. At this moment, I am sitting in my sunroom, looking at part of Sydney Harbour from my window. The sun is shining and sparkling on the water ; I can see dozens of sailing boats out for the day (its quite common to own a boat in Sydney) ; and later I will cook a meal consisting of fresh fish and fresh vegies, followed by fresh fruit. In Britain and Europe, only a wealthy person can afford to do the things Australians do every day.

So in answer to your question -

It feels damn good.


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Posted by: dee at April 25, 2004 at 03:11 PM

Tall Brit,
now you should know a bit more about two of your former old colonies:
One has guns, the other doesn't (but some wished it has)
Neither are short.
They like each other more than they like you.
They are both more than slightly xenophobic.
Don't mention "sport" (except maybe rugby-for now)

Posted by: carlos at April 25, 2004 at 03:50 PM

Tall Brit's just pissed we unintentionally took away his birthright, most Americans don't realize we have it and if they did, don't want it.

Hey, tall brit, why don't you take in the number of asian and hispanic people we do and see what it does to your height? And I mean ASIAN - not MEastern.

And as to "God - you people are ignorant. Do you not realise that you and your ilk are seen around the world as ill-educated rednecks ..."

YUP and our finger's on the button.

Sleep well.

Posted by: Sandy P. at April 25, 2004 at 03:55 PM

Reason #4 I'm voting for W - It's going to drive the Euros off the cliff when he's re-elected.

Start popping the corn, it's going to be fun.

Posted by: Sandy P. at April 25, 2004 at 03:56 PM

CurrencyLad, you have mail

Posted by: a at April 25, 2004 at 04:24 PM

Hey, carlos -- yeah, we're so xenophobic people of all nations are continually clamoring to move to our respective shores. I am sure the people from whatever native country you are pleased to call home are perfectly happy to see foreigners come to their country -- as long as they are only there for a visit, and bring plenty of money. I'll bet most of them show quite another face to immigrants.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at April 25, 2004 at 04:27 PM

Bah, carlos the uncapitalized is just pissing in the wind again. I LOVE England, even if there are a few Rall Tits over there.

Posted by: Sortelli at April 25, 2004 at 04:36 PM

Tall Brit,
more about the mentioned former colonies;
-Self deprecating humo(u)r is not appreciated.
-Self criticsm is very rare and is thought unpatriotic by some.

If you're migrating, (good hint from Andrea above) put on a posh pommie accent and say you're related to Royalty and they'll love you.

Posted by: carlos at April 25, 2004 at 05:42 PM

Note to Carlos:

The ability to laugh at oneself and others is the basis of the Australian sense of humour. Although this is being ruined by self-appointed PC retards who insist we all tiptoe through life without giving offence.

You seem to be curiously unaware of this fact.

As for your remark about posh accents - the only Australians with any admiration for royal parasites would be the gossip columists and self-appointed 'society' members. I dont know anyone who either admires or is taken in by 'posh accents'.

"Xenophobic"? There are no race riots in Australia. But the last one in Britain was - a couple of months ago, no?


Posted by: dee at April 25, 2004 at 06:47 PM

Dee,
I can't resist; you link xenophobia with race riots. ??? A little over the top. However, you may be right - what was was that thing in Sydney a few weeks ago. You know, when the black fellas rioted against the police.
Here's a good one , you may have heard it, two Palestinian brothers migrate to Australia and make a $10 bet on who would assimilate best. After several years they get together and Abdul says, "Hameed, I have the neighbours over for a barbie every Sat. afternoon, my son's on the school cricket team, my daughter's in the swim team, how have you done?"
"F*ck off Rag Head".

Ha ha

Posted by: carlos at April 25, 2004 at 07:08 PM

Adams once wrote that he "prefers Marxism to economic rationalism". I say we grant him his wish, and put him on a train to North Korea.

Posted by: Alex Robson at April 25, 2004 at 08:03 PM

I dont think Bushwhackers is good though - I prefer Bushrangers, has a much better ring to it.

Posted by: Rob at April 25, 2004 at 08:18 PM

Tim, don't republish this stuff. Just sue the fucking cunt for libel.

Posted by: Sue at April 25, 2004 at 08:21 PM

Tim, don't republish this stuff. Just sue the fucking cunt for libel.

Posted by: Sue at April 25, 2004 at 08:21 PM

On the list of people executed whilst Bush was governor - guess who is number 115 -

David Hicks - stopped his oxygen theft on 20/01/2000.

He had better hope that lightning doesn't strike twice the traitor! There ya go Phil one example for you! I said it! Traitor traitor traitor!

Posted by: Rob at April 25, 2004 at 08:42 PM

Carlos:

>

You dont see any connection between xenophobia and race riots? Xenophobia does not automatically lead to race riots, but it sure helps them along.

>

The so called 'race riots' were all about the police targeting drug dealing in Redfern - I guess 'white racism' is always a convenient cop-out for aboriginal criminals. Redfern has been a no-go area for police for several years (thanks to idiot laws instituted by the ALP). During that time, it has become a haven for criminals of all kinds. The police were there that morning looking for a multiple bag-snatcher who had dragged the victim along the pavement. And I know what I'm talking about. My daughter was surrounded at Redfern station by a gang of aggressive aboriginals threatening violence and rape if she didnt give up her bag. She had to be rescued by security guards. This is a common occurence. There is a huge problem of aboriginal violence and rape against both white Australians and their own people.

Yes, I've heard that joke, its an oldie. Heres another:

Q. What does a Lebense male do after having sex?

A. About 10 years, usually.

Posted by: dee at April 25, 2004 at 08:54 PM

Carlos:

>

You dont see any connection between xenophobia and race riots? Xenophobia does not automatically lead to race riots, but it sure helps them along.

>

The so called 'race riots' were all about the police targeting drug dealing in Redfern - I guess 'white racism' is always a convenient cop-out for aboriginal criminals. Redfern has been a no-go area for police for several years (thanks to idiot laws instituted by the ALP). During that time, it has become a haven for criminals of all kinds. The police were there that morning looking for a multiple bag-snatcher who had dragged the victim along the pavement. And I know what I'm talking about. My daughter was surrounded at Redfern station by a gang of aggressive aboriginals threatening violence and rape if she didnt give up her bag. She had to be rescued by security guards. This is a common occurence. There is a huge problem of aboriginal violence and rape against both white Australians and their own people.

Yes, I've heard that joke, its an oldie. Heres another:

Q. What does a Lebenese male do after having sex?

A. About 10 years, usually.

Posted by: dee at April 25, 2004 at 08:56 PM

Aplogies for double posting, my computer went AWOL after I had pressed POST and I thought my message hadnt posted.

Posted by: dee at April 25, 2004 at 08:58 PM

"Well I like Phil. Looks like he hit the nail on the head. Seems you found offense in his factual analysis of on on going problem that isn't just indigenous to Australia. Alot of Americans are following him like he's the second coming. Good thing my bible warned me about false prophets ahead of time."

I support Bush mostly because I despise your ilk to the n-th degree - actually it has little to do with any personal qualities of the misspeak-meister himself.

As the Brit nicely illustrates, when faced with the US vs. The Soviet Union, you go with the soviets every time. (Sometimes you feign indifference, but hey - we all know who ends up the target of 99% of your screeds...)

When faced with Islamism vs. the US - hey, off to shore up the islamists it is.

In short, you are morally utterly corrupt and must therefore be defeated if the west is to stand a chance in the longer run. And so, the only harbor remaining for us who oppose you is Dubya. Sad but true.

Regards, Döbeln

-Stabil som fan!

Posted by: Döbeln at April 25, 2004 at 09:50 PM

Does anyone know where I can get a Bush for President sticker?

Posted by: Paul at April 25, 2004 at 09:58 PM

Paul:

You'll either have to ask someone involved with the Bush-Cheney campaign (they usually have some). If you like, I can ask the local committee and mail you one.

Or you could go to:

http://www.georgewbushstore.com/

There is no "bumper sticker" category, but they have them scattered throughout the other selections. You might find something else of use there.

Posted by: JeffS at April 26, 2004 at 01:35 AM

"If you're migrating, (good hint from Andrea above) put on a posh pommie accent and say you're related to Royalty and they'll love you.

Posted by: carlos at April 25, 2004 at 05:42 PM"

Actually, if you're coming to America, use a "Beatle-ish" accent. We think that's really hot.

You can only use the upper-class one if you look like Hugh Grant. Otherwise, we'll make fun of your teeth.

I didn't know there was an upper-class Australian accent.

Posted by: ushie at April 26, 2004 at 04:08 AM

Yeah, I can sure see where carlos got the idea from my comment that a "a posh pommie accent" and relationship to royalty would get you love in the US. NOT. What the hell?

Posted by: Andrea Harris at April 26, 2004 at 04:33 AM

Just getting back to the original article by Adams; personally, I loved the whole thing

I mean – really. This is the best Adams can do? Petty name calling (Honestly, Bushwhackers? Geez…..), McCarthy comparisons, Exxon instead of Enron? Bizarre claims that we, as ‘Bushwhackers’, totally ignored the ramblings of O’Neill and Clarke because it didn’t fit into our worldview? Best of all, he likens us to ‘propagandists of Kim Il Sung’?

While I’ve no doubt that his insinuations that, as a member of the VRWC, I’m a drooling Bush-loving hate-filled moronic drone goes down well with his Amerikkka crowd, it only serves to remind me of just how bizarre, just how out-of-touch the left is. The article could have been written by anyone from the Bushitler mob.

Amusingly, he states ‘it’s easy to dismiss the criticism of a Pilger or a Chomsky, to dismiss the complaints of what’s left of the Left as rabid rantings’. Errr, Phil, ummmm, you’ve just written a…. never mind.

My impression is that poor Adams is frustrated; after all, he knows he has all the answers! If only people would listen! And the cause of that frustration? John Kerry & current polls. Imagine his disbelief, his incredulity; that if there was ever a month that support for Bush would waver, this would surely be it.

And instead… well, Bush numbers are up, Kerry numbers are down. Better yet, Bush seems to have a pretty rock-solid support base of around 50-55%, if recent polling is anything to go by. Consequently, all Adams can see is four more years of Bush.

And he’s one unhappy, grumpy, bitter man. And that makes me a happy, blissful, optimistic right wing death beast.

Posted by: Dave at April 26, 2004 at 12:25 PM

Ah, Pharmer Phil - is there anything he gets right?

"Bushwhacker" has a widly-known definition, Phil. It's someone who sits behind a bush and shoots you in the back as you ride by. Generally considered a cowardly, but safe, method of attack.

Posted by: mojo at April 26, 2004 at 02:52 PM

If Tall Brit is still around, maybe he should look at his own country's policy in the middle east. Most of the problems he would place onto the Americans are essentially British 20th century decisions which have blown up and need to be resolved. Not that America hasn't made its share of mistakes in the region. Also, it is pretty much known that USA saved entire western civ mostly by itself, with help from a few erstwhile allies - UK and Aussies, New Z. and SA.

They very much may have been too late to WWII although they did supply Britain for free when still officially neutral. As CHurchill said, he slept soundly after Pearl Harbor because he knew the Yanks were coming and the war would be won.

Posted by: JEM at April 26, 2004 at 03:46 PM

JEM:

Pearl Harbor simply committed the American people to the war. Prior to the attack, we were isolationists by official policy. Roosevelt supported Britain where he could -- he pushed the Lend-Lease Act, for example, which gave Britain a lot of badly needed materiel. And mobilized the National Guard for a year prior to the attack.

In fact, as I recall (and I could be wrong, I'm just too lazy to research it), Hitler made the mistake of declaring war on the USA. He did this in support of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, for a show of unity of the Axis powers.

Up until that time, many people felt that the war in Europe was not our problem. Some were even sympathetic to Nazi German (due to misguided idealism -- Charles Lindbergh was one such person, and he had to live that down the rest of his life). Had he not declared war, it's just possible that Congress may have focused that declaration towards Japan, and left Europe out of the equation.

But the isolation policy is fact. So Winston had it right, but the interesting point is just how little we've changed since 1941-1945, eh? Does any of the above sound familiar?

Posted by: JeffS at April 26, 2004 at 04:21 PM

Of all the vile arrogant mindless leftist slobs whose vacuous droolings I have had the misfortune to encounter, Adams is probably the most disgusting.

Congratulations for getting onto his hate list.

Posted by: Poisonhead at April 26, 2004 at 08:09 PM

Yeah tall Brit you sound like one happy chappy. Happy in the knowledge that there is hardly a hot-spot on Earth that hasn't got your country's grubby finger prints all over it!

Posted by: Brian. at April 26, 2004 at 09:14 PM

As for Adams...Can you believe this guy?
We pay for these ravings! Another case of where our public broadcaster has become the personal plaything of some rich, fat, obnoxious, arse hole, pretending to be a Marxist. Of course he's too rich to be a real Marxist. Leave it to the idle rich to come up with this stuff. Characters like Adams are the end result of the absolute decadence they're supposed to despise!

Posted by: Brian. at April 26, 2004 at 09:25 PM

Being a Yank, I missed out that Adams is part of the Australian public broadcasting. That makes it worse. State sponsored idiocy!

Posted by: JeffS at April 27, 2004 at 12:39 AM