March 16, 2004


Greg Sheridan in today’s Australian:

Political observers in the US have been wondering whether the Bush administration would produce an October surprise in the run-up to the November election.

In the light of the Spanish election result, it is much more likely that it will be al-Qa'ida producing such a surprise.

Posted by Tim Blair at March 16, 2004 04:48 AM

I have always thought Americans are different from Europeans in how they respond to crisis. When faced with a dangerous threat, Americans resort to boorish, and unsophisticated solution of fighting back. It is the hated ignorant, redneck, cowboy mentality of not willing to die. Hopefully the elections in Spain has taught Americans an important lesson from their European betters. The best way to deal with terrorism is to look the other way. Vote for Bush at your own peril in November.

Posted by: Michael M Moore at March 16, 2004 at 05:01 AM

assuming osalami is still alive (and i'm not all too sure of that; it seems awfully odd that for a guy with a video fetish we have not seen a single pic of him siince what, dec '01?), his capture prior to the election would only lead to democrat choruses of 'the war is over now'.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at March 16, 2004 at 05:03 AM


Ummm.... sarcasm, right?

Posted by: JEM at March 16, 2004 at 05:48 AM

I like it!

From now on any argument using Osama's name shall be met with, "He's dead. Why waste time talking about him." If he isn't dead this will surely force him to do a photo op.

If that works out well enough, I might start doing a "War on Terror? What about their failed War on Drugs?"

Posted by: IXLNXS at March 16, 2004 at 05:58 AM

From now on any argument using Osama's name shall be met with, "He's dead. Why waste time talking about him." If he isn't dead this will surely force him to do a photo op.

Um, I know you're new here, and not very bright, but have a look through the archives. A lot of us have been saying he's been dead since the war in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Quentin George at March 16, 2004 at 06:20 AM

It doesn't really matter what you say. XXXCSSSVVV just runs the program and gets a disagreement. You're wrong, he's right. End of story. It's quick, it's simple, it's over. Sure beats thinking and logic, which tend to be work.

Posted by: JorgXMcKie at March 16, 2004 at 07:02 AM

"Sure beats thinking and logic, which tend to be work."

those things aren't work for alot of us. Sorry for your luck.

Posted by: IXLNXS at March 16, 2004 at 07:39 AM

Like I suggested before, IXLMSPLX is not left or right. He's just an antogonist. He appears to be a leftist just because he is so irrational.

Posted by: aaron at March 16, 2004 at 08:24 AM

I think we'd see lots of cowboys in our streets if we were to be attacked again. I'd be surprised if the reaction to attack would be surrender and pull out of Iraq.

I sympathize with people in Spain who lost loved ones. I don't think yielding to terrorist demands is any way to remain safe in the long term.

Posted by: Chris Josephson at March 16, 2004 at 09:57 AM

I've always figured that it wouldn't necessarily matter when Bin Laden is cought. Whether it be today, in November or two years ago, Bush would still be known as the "Man Who Cought Bin Laden", and that would be a title that one wouldn't be able to shake off that easily.

Posted by: Aggie at March 16, 2004 at 10:53 AM

Osama is probably a secondary target in the current sweeps. Forcing him into the hills did little to impede AQ, their cell organization was designed with that in mind. Hunting him down is a noble goal, but I think CENTCOM is more interested in killing active terrorists and cleaning up Afghanistan, than in bagging some old raghead fart banging his wives in a cave while his followers learn the real value of night vision devices.

Capturing him would be satisfying in many ways (some cowboyish, some not), but I expect him to eat a bullet rather than be brought before a tribunal of infidels. Fine by me. Heads can be transported a lot easier.

Note that Saddam's capture has had little political impact in the US, other than feeding paranoid delusions about holding for elections. Said people spouting such nonsense need to check their tin foil hats.

AQ is no doubt more than satisfied with the response of the Spanish voters. Whether AQ was involved, or actually pushed them over the edge is immaterial -- in this world of high speed media and short soundbytes, appearance is all important. AQ will use this as justification for further attacks by their brainwashed followers.

But the real war goes on, anyway. When AQ tries it again, I'm betting on the intelligence services, law enforcement, and military to nab the bastards. Some may get through, but many of them will die.

So don't let your guard down, world.

Posted by: JeffS at March 16, 2004 at 12:02 PM

"Osama is probably a secondary target in the current sweeps. Forcing him into the hills did little to impede AQ, their cell organization was designed with that in mind."

Correct on cell organization. Original plans and concepts for cell structure relies on teaching five converts. They being taught are then sent into the field. They are either to undertake missions, or are to train an additional five converts per person for twenty five new recruits sent out to do the same. Each cell is designed to know nothing of other cells or operations. One person per cell may have a tie with one contact, and throuigh this contact be advised of what they are to do.

That was early 70's think tank. New thought is the fear of a Islamic bomb. Assuming the average Muslim, or a ruler of a country would want to use one. But look to a nation that is Muslim by average population and has yet to blow up Israel, or America. Pakistan. Though they will sell the workings and designs and uranium for it. Right thinking people currently are courting Pakistan while continuing to support India which has been in a long battle for the Kashmiri areas.

While many people in the world see only a terrorist threat to world peace, they fail to see the India, Pakistan connection. A bomb dropped by either country will have direct fall out into areas controlled by the Chinese. Looking at a world geography map reveals that in one fell swoop the Chinese can easily control most of India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. Thus placing them directly opposite Americas already over extended troops in Iraq.

Thus between a rock and a hard place will be America. Russia on one border. China on the other. The WOT is publicity and nothing more.

Posted by: IXLNXS at March 16, 2004 at 01:19 PM

Oh shut up, you subliterate moron.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at March 16, 2004 at 02:30 PM

Looking at a world map reveals the Himalaya mountains between China and India. There would be at least some logistical problems with the Chinese conquering South Asia in "ine fell swoop" by trying to send an army across the Himalayas. IX may not realize it, but they are reputed to be the highest mountains in the world. Whodathunkit? Gotta use maps that show mountain ranges, IX.

Of course the Chinese could try to work their way around by land and sea, through the countries of Southeast Asia and Indonesia. No doubt if the Islamists take over in Indonesia they will have no more compunctions about allying with China than they did at allying with Saddam. Well, maybe a few more, what with China holding down Muslims in Xinggiang and all. But concerning that, not only has the moronic Bush administration been trying to get Indonesia onside in putting down the terrorists, a few months ago a USN ship visited Saigon, er Ho Chi Minh city, for the first time since 1975. Those Bushies are far too stupid to try to make allies out of old enemies, aren't they?

IX commented that many people see only a terrorist threat. The Bush administration sees several others and has taken steps to defend against them. The are getting little help on these matters from anybody but us nasty neo-cons, and certainly not from people like IX.

Posted by: Michael Lonie at March 16, 2004 at 03:26 PM

The "Me, Now" mindset of the "I thought the world was supposed to be safer, Johnny" brigade is gutless. Not unlike kids who expect Daddy to provide the latest toy or electronic gizmo the instant it is demanded, they are too selfish to understand that some things require sacrifice, and that pursuing a greater goal for generations to come may require both courage and a climate of uncertainty. The targeting of Western democracies by Islamic fundamentalists did not begin with the war in Iraq, and will not end vouluntarily. This war may eventually result in a democratic Iraq, and democratic Muslim nations that do not breed or harbour anti-Western terrorists because their people are no longer supressed by brutality, resentful of the freedoms of Western-style democracies. This will make the wold safer. It may take decades, yet rather than fight this war on all fronts for the safety of our children and grandchildren in years to come, the selfish "Me, Now" mindset would prefer to turn a blind eye and dump this problem on our kids.

Posted by: max power at March 16, 2004 at 06:02 PM