March 05, 2004

DEAN SUPPOOORTER IDENTIFIED

Margooo Kingstooon writes:

I followed the Democratic primary in the US on the web, and was very disappointed when Howard Dean bowed out. His 'Take back America' campaign hit the spot with me, and at least his outspokenness on the Iraq war and the takeover of the US government by crony capitalism energised liberal voters and caught on with the other candidates. He's now planning a transformation of his huge internet support base into a grassrooots activist movement.

She only followed a single primary? Which one?

Posted by Tim Blair at March 5, 2004 12:35 AM
Comments

Maybe it was Iooowa.

Posted by: Randal Robinson at March 5, 2004 at 01:33 AM

Moooooooo. All that cud-chewing gets in the way of watching primaries (caususes, too, for that matter.)

Posted by: JorgXMcKie at March 5, 2004 at 01:59 AM

"...a transformation of his huge internet support base into a grassrooots activist movement."
Margo, Margo, Margo.
The grassroots activist movement you envision is already here. Greenpeace loving, anti-globalization marching, Michael Moore believing, employment adverse, bathing-impaired zealots make up the core.
BC

Posted by: BC at March 5, 2004 at 03:57 AM

This line got me:

"His 'Take back America' campaign hit the spot with me"

Why the hell would an Aussie be interested in a "Take Back America" message? What's the deal? Did the British put you guys up to this? Well, here's a message for you to take back to your paymasters: Forget it! We took it from you fair and square, and you can't have it back! Nyaahh!!

Posted by: TomK at March 5, 2004 at 05:34 AM

TomK, that is beautiful!

Listen, since we are the greatest evil in the world, should we come to Australia and take it away from the idiot media types like Margo? Oh I forgot, we have Moore. Strange, the only places these wackos can exist is in countries that will fight to the death their right to publish obnoxious, vile trash about how oppressive society is, while the societies they seem to favor would have put their head on a stake along time ago.

Posted by: JEM at March 5, 2004 at 06:05 AM

Unfortunately, the activist movement doesn't just smoke the rooots.

It's all about the O!

Posted by: Craig Mc at March 5, 2004 at 06:13 AM

Margo Kingston is such a moron.

Posted by: Jonny at March 5, 2004 at 06:31 AM

I think substance abuse is the oonly answer for Margoo...oor maybe that is the rooot oof the prooblem...hmmm

Posted by: TC at March 5, 2004 at 06:56 AM

What the hell is going on with smh's sub-editors? They've been missing dozens of such errors recently. Their only function is to catch journalists' consistently bad writing, and they let things like this through. Time smh hired me instead.

Posted by: fatfingers at March 5, 2004 at 07:13 AM

Dean also brought out the best in Gore.

Posted by: Joe Peden at March 5, 2004 at 07:21 AM

I still love the quote about a sub-editor being someone not good enough to be an editor.

Posted by: Andjam at March 5, 2004 at 08:20 AM

While proving opression in America would be easy, I am sure it is less than that enjoyed by many another nation. What Americans are decrying is lies. Any one who has half a brain will realize this is all about the coming oil crunch and who will control the remaining oil reserves. What those crying out the loudest fail to realize is the majority of Americans are good old folks. they watch the tele, drink beer, go to jobs, and have no idea that the government is lying to them, and if they found out, and found out why would prefer not knowing. Australia that nice land down south may fair better in many respects to this huge land of consumers who are ill equipped to feed themselves, and will most likely fester like all global empires. From both a liberal, and a conservative perspective things are about to happen that will make or break many nations. Be cocky, be foolish, but don't be naive.

Posted by: IXLNXS at March 5, 2004 at 08:30 AM

Why the bad subbing? A combination of several things (in no particular order): the increasing glamorisation of the 'celebrity' reporter or columnist, causing a commensurate fall in the status of the sub (once upon a time the roles were regarded as equally important and many people would switch back and forward between them); the prevalence of (largely useless) spell-checkers in publishing software; the abandonment of formal English spelling and grammar education a few decades ago (since rectified, if my kids' schooling is any guide), producing a generation of semi-literate reporters and subs; the cults of cost-cutting and managerialism, which have caused bosses who know nothing about newspapers to identify production staff as being easily expendable ...

I could go on ad nauseam.

But Andjam, why do you love that quote? Is it supposed to be funny? I can be as self-deprecating as the best of 'em, but that's just pathetic.

Posted by: warbo at March 5, 2004 at 08:46 AM

I should probably say that those comments aren't meant to apply to the SMH alone.

Posted by: warbo at March 5, 2004 at 08:49 AM

BLAIR SPOTS TYPOS (AGAIN).

Really, Tim. Is that all you've got?

Posted by: Nemesis at March 5, 2004 at 08:56 AM

Margo writes: Writing a book is a lonely thing to do, but luckily two Webdiarists who contributed to the book - Jack Robertson and Antony Loewenstein - put some fun into it.

Why does it always take at least three lefties to write one book?

(Read the blurb on the Manne et al book - and to think we worry about blogging while inebriated.)

Posted by: ilibcc at March 5, 2004 at 09:00 AM

If Dean's "huge internet support base" failed to win him a single primary, what possible use is to going to be come the general election? What is he planning to transform it into - a loose collection of far-left zealots with personal egos that far outstrip any ability to deliver outcomes? The Greens already have that covered.

And yes, I realise Dean won Vermont. Kind of telling that he didn't win a single primary until after he dropped out of the race.

Posted by: Aaron Kennedy at March 5, 2004 at 09:13 AM

TomK,

Lefties over here always moan that Australia is becoming the 52nd state of America. Maybe they'd prefer to see America becoming the 7th state of Australia!

Posted by: TimT at March 5, 2004 at 09:21 AM

What the HELL is "crony capitalism"?????????

Posted by: MonkeyPants at March 5, 2004 at 10:28 AM

ixlnxs, did you forget to hit the "send" button in 1968, until now? The U.S. did go to Vietnam "for oil", as you note. [Seriously, I heard that back then.]

But, not to worry: "We have only just begun to drill." GWB

Posted by: Joe Peden at March 5, 2004 at 11:04 AM

Ixlnxs:
"This huge land of consumers who are ill equipped to feed themselves, and will most likely fester like all global empires."

"Ill equipped to feed themselves"? The US is a net EXPORTER of food. In fact, we grow and produce more food per capita than any other nation in the world. And, unfortunately, we waste too much of it; but that's another story for another time.

We went to Iraq for oil? Oy. I thought we got all that when we went into Afghanistan. Or was that natural gas.

"While proving opression (sic) in America would be easy". Double oy.

"Fester like all global empires".

Triple oy.

First things we did when we went into Afghanistan and then Iraq was to devise strategies to get the hell out.

Some empire.

SMG

Posted by: SteveMG at March 5, 2004 at 11:18 AM

"root of the problem"?

Lack of a root, more likely...

Posted by: Paul Johnson at March 5, 2004 at 11:57 AM

Margo writes: "His 'Take back America' campaign hit the spot with me"

Um, would that be your 'G' Spot? And was it because Howard Dean is a dildo?

Posted by: JDB at March 5, 2004 at 12:12 PM

I particularly like 'Margoo'. Like Mr Magoo, she is totally blind to the real world and everyone wonders how she survives from one episode to the next.

Posted by: Paul Johnson at March 5, 2004 at 12:42 PM

NEMESIS SPOTS BLAIR SPOTTING TYPOS AND WHINGES ABOUT IT ON BLOG(AGAIN)

It seems that's all you've got, Nem.

Posted by: Quentin George at March 5, 2004 at 03:55 PM

Margo was bunked up with a couple of horny hippies to work on her "book", eh? Any chance there was some Canterbury action going on? Can't have been; didn't hear about two blokes sobering up in Byron and blowing their brains out.

Posted by: Habib at March 5, 2004 at 11:21 PM

you are a bad man habib god bless you hope you are doing well in the rain & wind

Posted by: nadir at March 6, 2004 at 12:16 AM

Wow, is this the kinder, gentler troll for a new generation?

Posted by: Sortelli at March 6, 2004 at 03:05 PM

"We went to Iraq for oil? Oy. I thought we got all that when we went into Afghanistan. Or was that natural gas."

Well no, we went to Afghanastan to find that dreaded terrorist and his organization, Al Quieda, or the Taliban, which ever one it was we bombed the hell out of a desert, took pictures, got that opium production back up where it belongs, and helped insure our "pipeline" was protected. The same pipeline we, Americans, were paying tax dollars to protect to a group of swell guys who changed their minds about who was going to build that pipeline. Suddenly they aren't swell guys, and we should rush over there and defend the womens rights to go without burkahs. Afghanastan was about the pipeline that would get the oil out of the Caspian Basin. Iraq is about that oil.

Posted by: IXLNXS at March 7, 2004 at 05:55 AM

IXALSDJKASHDJANS:

The X-Files was not a documentary.

Ted Rall is not a trustworthy source of news and information.

Posted by: Sortelli at March 7, 2004 at 09:33 AM

"The X-Files was not a documentary."

It wasn't??? [pulls out gun -- BANG]

That's one tv set that will never lie to me again.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at March 7, 2004 at 03:35 PM

"The X-Files was not a documentary."

Really? Noooooo!

And plants need water.

Perhaps tho you show how we went to Afghanastan for Oil, rather than the pipeline Unocal wanted to build. And went into Iraq because thats where all the high jackers came from.

Whoops. Didn't happen like that. We went into Afghanistan to protect the pipeline that would be shipping the oil out of Iraq. And 15 of 19 high jackers were from Saudi Arabia, and as yet America has not attacked them, but rather pulled forces out of that country. Funny that was one of Osama Bin Laden's demands.

The sky is high.

Posted by: IXLNXS at March 7, 2004 at 06:28 PM

You are one gullible fool, INHLXLXLXLXLXL. But go ahead, keep posting this two-year-old troll crap. We'll keep on mocking you. It's good typing practice.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at March 8, 2004 at 04:29 AM

IXLJKASJKDHAJKSD:

The pipeline story is a steaming pile of BS, served up by Mike Moore's inaccurate "fact-checkers" and debunked by people from both sides of the political spectrum.

No one more than with half a brain believes this crap. Stop shoveling.

Posted by: Sortelli at March 8, 2004 at 07:22 AM

Habib - Loewenstein is hardly a hippy. Have a read of his work, the young man has terrific insight.

Posted by: Lucy at March 8, 2004 at 04:16 PM

Hey, Mxlpltnk or whatever the hell your name is:

"While proving opression in America would be easy"

What the hell are you talking about? Do you live in America? I do, and there ain't no oppression here. Why, I can even disagree with President Bush if I so desired and I won't have stormtroopers knocking down my door and killing my family. It's amazing!

Posted by: Big Dog at March 8, 2004 at 05:40 PM

(meanwhile, in an nearby black van staffed by agents of the Democratic Underground . . .)

"Sir! We've got another one who doesn't believe he's being oppressed!"

"Send out the small, yapping dogs!"

"It's not working! He's a bigger dog!"

"Then we'll tell the others that he's in on it! Why, if they find out that they're not being oppressed, they might start doubting all the other crap we've been feeding them... Like that whopper about the pipeline!"

Posted by: Sortelli at March 8, 2004 at 06:43 PM