September 11, 2003


Adelaide University criminologist Allan Perry reflects upon his home city:

"Adelaide is much more of a stifled, inbred community," Dr Perry said.

"There is no vibrant social or commercial life. The question is why do the best and brightest in Adelaide never stay around, and why few in that category come here?

"The answer is clear - no one with ambition thinks that Adelaide is the place for them.

"(I'm referring to) the lifestyle of an increasingly significant subculture of people in the South Australian community, whose lives are totally amoral and parasitic upon society."

Where on earth does Dr. Perry get the evidence for these outrageous claims?

Posted by Tim Blair at September 11, 2003 11:22 AM

I would have thought the Adelaide Festival of Ideas was about as "stifled and inbred" as you could get.

Posted by: eddie weston at September 11, 2003 at 11:39 AM

JM Coetzee went there - and produced the worst novel ever read by me, 'Elizabeth Costello' (no relation)

Posted by: bob catley at September 11, 2003 at 11:45 AM

Determined to find out what a Stobie Pole was, I found this site which shows how great South Australia's contribution to the world really is:

More than just Stobie Poles!

Posted by: Mike G at September 11, 2003 at 12:25 PM

Helluva weird place:

Posted by: slatts at September 11, 2003 at 12:39 PM

Where does he get the evidence?

AAMI Stadium, most Saturday afternoons.

Posted by: LD at September 11, 2003 at 12:56 PM

Dont you buggers start knocking Adelaide. Ok so I dont live there anymore and I do get a bit twitchy every now and then but dont get me started!

Posted by: Rob at September 11, 2003 at 12:57 PM

Warren Zevon, Mr. Bad Example:

...Whereupon I stole her passport and her wig
And headed for the airport and the midnight flight, you dig?
And fourteen hours later I was down in Adelaide
Looking through the want ads sipping Fosters in the shade...

Posted by: PK at September 11, 2003 at 01:27 PM

Perry's just jealous coz he doesn't get to go out drinking and eating pie floaters with me.

Posted by: Scott Wickstein at September 11, 2003 at 01:34 PM

Speaking of which, MikeG's link found the 2002 Heritage Icons page. For the Pie Floater, you need the 2003 page. Humphrey B. Bear is there too. Who needs Barney?

Posted by: pooh at September 11, 2003 at 02:04 PM

Now I want a Balfours Frog Cake.

Posted by: Mike G at September 11, 2003 at 02:16 PM

Dont forget about the Farmers Union Egg nog ahhhh sticks to your ribs that stuff :)

Posted by: Rob at September 11, 2003 at 02:19 PM

The Professor's analysis is very useful in identifying the fundamental socio-political reasons why ...

Port Power will never win an AFL Flag!

Posted by: The_GOP_Elephant at September 11, 2003 at 02:37 PM

Why, then, did Dr Parry move there? (He's an American.) Is he outing himself as a second-rater?

Posted by: Fork at September 11, 2003 at 03:15 PM

A place where people are parasitic and amoral.......aren't they talking about Washington D.C.?

Posted by: wallace at September 11, 2003 at 03:15 PM

Perry! Perry! Perry!

I am outing myself as having virtually no short-term memory.

Posted by: Fork at September 11, 2003 at 03:17 PM

TIM, I clicked all the links you provided but could'nt find the text of Dr. Perry's article. Perhaps some other poster can help?
As to Perry's comments presented as abstracts: The man appears to be a 'chip on the shoulder' social misfit.
ADELAIDE is no different to any other city , and No,I do'nt live in Adelaide but visit regularly--sure, there is the usual sector of people who are thick, but so what?
Let's look instead at the mainline of the 'Democrat's' site as presented. Democrat's they are not. They are a loose assembly of single issue people, each with a narrow perspective, but seemingly a lot of ego.
It seems to me that the Democrats have compiled a list of everthing that anyone could wish for, however unrealistic the wishes might be in the context of the big picture; then they PROMISE to somehow satisfy all.
The danger with the Democrats is that, if given sufficient power in the Upper Houses of State or Federal Parliaments, any notions that the major Parties might have( Liberal or Labor) for serious future planning of the BIG picture will be frustrated, leading to a continuation of the current short term 'win-votes-at-any-cost' political process--with Australia & all Australian being the losers.
As an example; if Australia were to start NOW on planning for a 50 year process of change from reliance on fossil fuels to alternative energy, the capital cost would be an extra A$6-9 billion pa. That assumes the Democrats & their 'greeny' component will co-operate, unlikely, because they are not capable of long term thinking, and the greenie component does not comprehend that all energy sources have an environmental/ecological consequence.

Posted by: Gadfly at September 11, 2003 at 03:38 PM

Say what you like, The Grace Emily is one of the best pubs in Australia, in the world. Only been to Adeliade twice, got belted on Coopers there at about two thirds the price it is in Perth.
Folks were nice.

Posted by: James Hamilton at September 11, 2003 at 04:27 PM

To James Hamilton,
What age are you James?
Your posting suggests you are a 15 year old twit.
Put brain in gear if you can. Gadfly

Posted by: Gadfly at September 11, 2003 at 04:41 PM

The Grace is a terrific pub. The Wheatsheaf in Thebby is also great when they have a band night. You will meet people. You will have fun. This is an order.

Posted by: Fork at September 11, 2003 at 04:44 PM

Gadfly: Brain, such that it is, is now in gear, and I am still not grasping why my comments in a favour of a pub have offended you so. Certainly was not my intention.

Posted by: James Hamilton at September 11, 2003 at 06:01 PM


Posted by: Fork at September 11, 2003 at 06:21 PM

Fork: When you put your brain in gear you just may be respected. This blogsite could be a place for intelligent expression of knowledge and discussion, rather than mindless juvenile banter.

Posted by: Gadfly at September 11, 2003 at 07:43 PM

go sit on a south coast beach smoking a fat spliff of decriminalised herb and sip on a fine Coopers ale, then you might get a moderate clue.

Posted by: Tom at September 11, 2003 at 07:58 PM

James: If I upset you I apologise.

My response to Fork is perhaps an explanation to you.
Could we have some intelligent discussion of the headline issues raised Tim Blair?

This site gives you, James, the possiblity (albeit small)of helping to change attitudes of people,particularly the young people who are the main posters, in a positive way.

Are you all too cynical to grasp the chance, and instead,just post somewhat silly statements ?

I am not being nasty, I really want to see a blogsite that is not used as a replacement for gameboy.

Thank you to all who bothered to read my Sept. 11th. 3.38pm posting. Gadfly

Posted by: Gadfly at September 11, 2003 at 08:04 PM

Tom, a Cooper's is one of my favourite drops, but your "fat spliff of decriminalised herb" is best left to you. Come on mate::::there's more to life than than blowing your brains out with that.
Hey--do you remember that REALLY good brew called "West End Lager" ?

Posted by: Gadfly at September 11, 2003 at 08:18 PM

Ahh west end. The Tooheys of SA.

Posted by: Tom at September 11, 2003 at 08:31 PM

I guess that's the end of this intelligent discussion.
But, nobody was able to tell me how to navigate to the Tim Blair headline newspaper article by a Dr Perry.
Presumably no one else tried to find it. Gadfly

Posted by: Gadfly at September 11, 2003 at 08:54 PM


Try the very first link: "reflects upon".

Posted by: tim at September 11, 2003 at 10:03 PM

It isnt too hard Gadfly. Normally the first link in a story is the link to the original source material. Tard.

Posted by: Tom at September 11, 2003 at 10:52 PM

Adelaide and South Australia has always been a barrel of laughs.

Posted by: Habib Bickford at September 11, 2003 at 11:25 PM

It is all down to the evil influence of one individual; the titular head of the "Brotherhood" of Adelaide perverts. And in the name of investigative journalism, I name the . I now fear for my life, as threats have been made by a ceretain Mr. Doo-Bee...

Posted by: Habib Bickford at September 11, 2003 at 11:32 PM

I fucked up that- don't try and link when pissed, kiddies, it only leads to shame and approbation.

Posted by: Habib Bickford at September 11, 2003 at 11:34 PM

I don't see what the problem is. As an American, living in South Australia appeals to me, as it will be the last bastion of humanity after the next Great War. So reads "On the Beach." If I can suck down a few brews prior, more's the better...

Posted by: J. Dwyer at September 12, 2003 at 12:23 AM

Sounds like a lot of grown-ups had a deprived childhood and didn't get their slice of fritz when shopping wih mum at the butchers. And to think some of us were so nice to the descendants of convicts at AAMI stadium last weekend, to give them something to look forward to in a couple of weekends time.

Posted by: o at September 12, 2003 at 06:39 PM