September 10, 2003

FAIR AND BALANCED

The ABC’s Jane Hutcheon and Linda Mottram discuss the most recent Palestinian outrages:

JANE HUTCHEON: On the Palestinian side, the Palestinian Authority has said that it regrets this latest attack but, of course, earlier in the day, the Israeli Army blew up the home of a militant, killing two militants and a 13-year-old boy.

LINDA MOTTRAM: So, so the cycle of violence appears to have returned.

JANE HUTCHEON: Very much so, Linda.

Israel kills killers; Hamas kills civilians. All part of the “cycle”.

Posted by Tim Blair at September 10, 2003 02:30 PM
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'On the Palestinian side, the Palestinian Authority has said that it regrets this latest attack but, of course, earlier in the day, the Israeli Army blew up the home of a militant, killing two militants and a 13-year-old boy.'

Of course.

Posted by: ilibcc at September 10, 2003 at 02:32 PM

Mm, now this might be a bit unfair, but what, exactly, distinguishes a 'militant' from a 13 year old Palestinian male?

It seems to me that a 13yr old boy living in a house with two 'militants' might be rather militant himself. I'd say it's a pretty fine distinction, and a good indicator why sneer quotes should always be employed when quoting this particular bit of 'Reuters Speak'.

Posted by: Al B, at September 10, 2003 at 03:39 PM

Ah, the constant refrain, because IDF kill killers, then it is reasonable Hamas-PLF-PLO kill more Israelis. Yes, all the Israeli's or, rather, the Jews fault.

Posted by: d at September 10, 2003 at 05:04 PM

The death of the 13-year-old shouldn't have happened. I know the IDF didn't mean to kill him, but I couldn't describe it merely as "Israel kills killers".

Posted by: Andjam at September 10, 2003 at 09:22 PM

Responsible people don't keep innocent children in their house if they know they're at risk of getting a missile up the jacksy from the IDF.

Posted by: Bob Postlethwaite-Humprey-Jones at September 10, 2003 at 09:48 PM

"The death of the 13-year-old shouldn't have happened."

That depends on whether he was a member of Hamas or not, doesn't it? Nobody knows, but unless Hamas has taken to using children as human shields (which is far from unlikely), there is every chance that he was a Hamas member and thus a perfectly legitimate target.

Posted by: R C Dean at September 10, 2003 at 10:07 PM

there is every chance that he was a Hamas member and thus a perfectly legitimate target.

Someone that age should be taken away and raised by responsible adults.

Posted by: Andjam at September 10, 2003 at 10:39 PM

I just heard the term "cycle of payback" used on lateline.

Posted by: Andjam at September 10, 2003 at 11:39 PM

You missed your cue Tim. Time to bring back the..(drum roll).. "THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE!" Yes the one with the fat kid.

Posted by: JoeJr at September 11, 2003 at 12:17 AM

Is this what they're talking about?

Posted by: Roger Bournival at September 11, 2003 at 12:50 AM

Here it is, Joe Jr; the original Cycle of Violence. Look at the very top of the screen for the link. (By the way, whoever put together the Retro Blair site: thanks.)

Posted by: tim at September 11, 2003 at 01:48 AM

Well Hamas said after the killing of those babies on the bus in Jerusalem: "anyway they will grow up and enter the army for national service".
So by extrapolation they have nothing to complain about when their kids get killed. "They will only grow up to be suicide bombers"
By the way several Israeli soldiers were killed in Jenin when they went to see why an 11 year old boy was crying - he was wearing one of those lovely vests so much in fashion in that region.
So much for innocence!

Posted by: Barry at September 11, 2003 at 01:54 AM

Someone that age should be taken away and raised by responsible adults.

Possibly, but can you even imagine the media reaction to such a thing? Interviews with the despairing parents, psychologists being interviewed about the cruelty of such an action and how it breeds more terrorists, sad photographs, "The Littlest Victims", "Amnesty Condemns Collective Punishment of Palestinian Families"....

Posted by: jeanne a e devoto at September 11, 2003 at 04:48 AM

"The Israelis are stealing our children" would be the reaction.

Posted by: scott h. at September 11, 2003 at 07:59 AM

I think that in the interests of promoting fair and accurate reporting on Israel, we need to have a "Jane Hutcheon's Monitor". She is quite blase about her anti-semitism. Greg Sheridan, in today's Australian, also mentions a gross error in her reporting on Monday's Lateline.

Posted by: Cassy at September 11, 2003 at 03:51 PM

Marr will be on to her in a trice.

Posted by: ilibcc at September 11, 2003 at 04:58 PM

Maybe a definition is needed. It seems perfectly obvious to me that the violence in the middle east is following a cycle. One side attacks, the other attacks, the other attacks, the other attacks. Doesn't seem complex. Also, I've never understood the word 'cycle' to have positive or negative implications. A cycle doesn't presuppose that one side is better than the other, nor does it presuppose that both sides are equal.

It certainly doesn't presuppose that it was all the Jews fault. Such comments are fit for Phillip Adams... crying racism every few moments.

It's amazing that this blog is now dedicated to the idea that incentives don't exist and we should never consider the consequences of our actions.

Posted by: 24601 at September 11, 2003 at 11:01 PM