June 03, 2003


First, from Michael Jennings:

I had a peculiar experience yesterday evening. I was sitting in a pub watching the cricket, and there was someone else on the other side of the pub watching the cricket. He looked very familiar to someone I went to school with, but I knew for a fact it wasn't him, because the friend I went to school with was killed in Bali last year. My point is that if you give me a gun, I'll be very happy to shoot Mr Sumandra in the back of the head for you.

From Tatterdemalian (among a bunch of excellent comments):

The reason why "dissent" is being marginalized is because the loudest dissenters are, not to put too fine a point on it, batshit insane ... The leftist media has marginalized itself, and people are turning to FOX, because while it may be biased, at least it isn't bugfuck.

And from mojo, a phrase to live by:

What would Ghengis do?

Posted by Tim Blair at June 3, 2003 05:37 AM

Tatterdemalian nails it. And you can't even engage these folks anymore. I was in Santa Monica the other day and a volunteer tried to get me to sign his petition imploring Gray Davis to reverse the teacher layoffs. He said he was getting a good respsonse but some people didn't care enough to stop and sign. I suggested that they probably cared- they just didn't think the government belonged in the education business. I must have lapsed into Urdu, because he turned and walked off. No rebuttal. No argument. He didn't even have the decency to call me a nazi. Yikes. Anyway, belated congratulations on the ultra luxe new design. It really needs a spiffy graphic device by your name, though. Maybe the logo from that overpriced Zippo I sold you. Cheers!

Posted by: RR Ryan at June 3, 2003 at 06:50 AM

Hey RR Ryan,

I just had a wet dream about me doing it with John Pilger !!! Weird, eh ?

Hey, I got a great porno with me having lots of sex with goats on it.

[Improvements in bold added by the administrator.]

Posted by: some pathetic goatlover at June 3, 2003 at 11:14 AM

Ah, fake identities ... the Left's favourite Internet trick.

Posted by: Indole Ring at June 3, 2003 at 11:31 AM

I have, er, "adjusted" the user's comments slightly.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at June 3, 2003 at 12:06 PM

I am a wishy-washy liberal abolitionist when it comes to the domestic application of the death penalty. I think it is wrong for the state to murder criminals:
- personal (crimes of passsion) or
- professional (crimes of mammon)
But terrorists are not criminals in the civil sense, of seeking personal gratification or professional gain.
They are political criminals, essentially irregular soldiers making a civil jurisdiction a war zone and deliberately targetting civilians.
There is wrong in principle, since civilians are by law excluded from deliberate attack. It is doubly wrong where the civil jurisdiction has democratic institutions and it is trebly wrong where that civil jurisdiction is in a vulnerable state of transition to modernity.
I would therefore argue that a terrorist crime zone should be retrospectively placed under martial law and that terrorists should be treated as war criminals.
Military justice is always more severe than civil justice, clearly in the case of Amorosi, the supreme penalty is called for.

Posted by: Jack Strocchi at June 3, 2003 at 01:08 PM

Geez Jack,
I find Vanessa's singing painful too, but I don't know about the supreme penalty. A few years hard labour should do it.

Posted by: pezza at June 3, 2003 at 01:49 PM

Yes, the two faced left and their bloody fake identities. Can't trust 'em.

Posted by: Mary Rosh at June 3, 2003 at 02:35 PM

On second thoughts, having heard that "Absolutely Everybody" song on the radio the other day, I've got to agree with Jack.

Posted by: pezza at June 3, 2003 at 03:24 PM

As a step towards harmonising relations between the Indons and the Aussies perhaps the Indons could allow Aussies to apply for positions in the firing squads. I'm keen - I'm from Perth and while not being directly effected I have heaps of second and third degrees of seperation to the dead and maimed.

Perhaps entry price could be a donation to the Red Cross. Then again. . .

Posted by: Razor at June 3, 2003 at 05:11 PM

As a general rule, I am opposed to the death penalty myself. However, I would still like to shoot these guys in the head.

Posted by: Michael Jennings at June 3, 2003 at 06:12 PM

What's with wanting to shoot Samudra in the back of the head? Give me a .45 and I'll shoot the prick in the head while looking him in the eyes: not so that I can see the fear, the 72 Virgins have negated that, but so that he could see that I don't hate him. Vermin don't merit hate.

Posted by: ZsaZsa at June 3, 2003 at 06:22 PM

I am opposed to the death penalty and, in this case, it'll stay that way. People like Samudra want to be martyred so we should not give them what they want. I say make him break rocks and clean out pig pens for the rest of his natural life.

Posted by: AndyM at June 3, 2003 at 07:05 PM

Talking of Khan, a G. Khan was involved in helping to halt the hijack. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/National/story_49070.asp

Posted by: Andjam at June 3, 2003 at 08:50 PM

If the death penalty for Samudra's cowardly act is so hard for some people to accept, how would
those people feel about a blood replacement
regimen, using swine blood? I'm certain Samudra
hasn't considered that.

Posted by: Smiling Dave at June 3, 2003 at 09:27 PM

For those of your worried about these animals being martyred, why not do what the Russians did and wrap their bodies in pork? No 72 virgins for these pricks. More like 72 hellspawn demons having their way with them...

Posted by: Thomas Macdonnell at June 3, 2003 at 10:05 PM

Praxita, the thorn-cocked demon?

Posted by: Drake at June 4, 2003 at 12:07 AM

I believe the thorn-cocked one is Gulbuth the Rampant. Anyway, not brutal enough.

Posted by: Werner at June 4, 2003 at 01:52 AM

Why is it that people keep calling executions "murder"? The same logic would call dragging people off to prison "kidnapping", imposing fines "extortion", and sentences of community service "enslavement".

Every punishment for crime that is imposed on criminals is something that is rightfully illegal for a private citizen to impose on others. I myself oppose the death penalty, but that position is not served by creating a false equivalence between criminal acts and the outcome of the due process of the laws.

Posted by: Warmongering Lunatic at June 4, 2003 at 02:47 AM

What would Ghengis say?
Baghdad Margo Kingston and John Pilger interview Ghengis Khan, asking :

Ghengis, what's your reponse to the oppression of the NYT and ABC by fat capitalist pig males.

Ghengis Khan: "Kublai, spit these to whitey communards, don't blunt your wilkinson sword over them. Lay waste to the lands ABC and NYT."\
Stirring stuff.

Posted by: d at June 4, 2003 at 01:29 PM


Please don't refer to muslims as vermin. Whatever you say about rats and cockroaches, at least they care for their young. And while rats and cockroaches also tend to kill the most vulnerable and helpless with the diseases they spread, they do not do so intentionally, and do not cultivate the same level of nauseating, scapegoating self-pity for being worthless killers with nothing to contribute to humanity.

Posted by: Cnut Havers at June 8, 2003 at 01:16 AM

wrt Tatterdamelian's comments, dissent is a very good and healthy thing. I just wish that even a token degree of dissent existed at the ABC, in the Navel Studies faculties of our universities, and among our talentless arts parasites. But then, pointing out the bleeding obvious truth about socialism by these parasites would amount to cutting off the penis to spite the testicles, so I'm not holding my breath.

Posted by: Cnut Havers at June 8, 2003 at 01:22 AM