October 31, 2004

HORSES RAISED

Celebrities! What would we do without them? I was struggling to make sense of the US election until Christine Lahti intervened:

Lahti herself is an excellent actress who, like so many of her ilk, is also reflexively anti-Bush. So she's been on the Kerry campaign trail "trying to reach out to women," as she told USA Today last week.

That's from Cathy Seipp, who also alerts us to the celebrity power of Julianna Margulies:

"I'm not going out there as an actress, I'm going out there as a woman, and I'm worried about women's rights," actress Julianna Margulies told the Los Angeles Times on October 25 about her volunteer work for Kerry.

I've never heard of Margulies or Lahti, however, so I needed Debbie Schussel to bring to my attention Patrick Swayze's opinion before I finally committed to the anti-Bush cause:

Speaking with Agence France Presse (it figures he’d pick the French) while in Warsaw, Swayze criticized the United States for being “insensitive” and "disrespectful" in Iraq.

"I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses," he said.

Posted by Tim Blair at October 31, 2004 03:47 AM
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Wow. Celebrities; is there anything they can't do? (Well, besides think, that is, but I am reassured by the lady that does my nails and horoscope that this "thought" thing is overrated anyway.)

Posted by: Andrea Harris at October 31, 2004 at 03:54 AM

Never heard of Lahti or Margulies? Rest assured, you haven't missed a whole heck of a lot.

As for Patrick Swayze, he's a born-and-bred Texan whose mommy made him take ballet. So it's natural for him to confuse horses and foreign people.

Posted by: Rebecca at October 31, 2004 at 03:59 AM

"I know a great deal about the Middle East because I’ve been raising Arabian horses," he said.

No one's that stupid. This is Scrappleface, right?

Posted by: Roger Bournival at October 31, 2004 at 04:00 AM

"I've never heard of Margulies or Lahti"

Margulies was on the TV series ER for about eight seasons or so (she played George Clooney's nurse girlfriend). Since leaving the show, the highlight of her film career was a movie called "Ghost Ship" about a haunted, um, ship.

As for Lahti, she was nominated for best supporting actress in movie called "Swing Shift"... in 1979. She is currently the mother of Jack and Bobby in the TV series "Jack and Bobby."

So you see, Tim, these actresses have a lot of experience potraying nurses and people who are scared and the mothers of future Presidents, so we should listen to what they have to say.

Posted by: Sean at October 31, 2004 at 04:01 AM

Ahem:

Oh, let's have a Patrick Swayze election this year!
Vote for Kerry or I'll kick you in the ear!

If you're confused, see here. If you're still confused, I can't help you. (I couldn't find an mp3.)

Posted by: Angie Schultz at October 31, 2004 at 04:06 AM

...and an expert on European affairs, owing to all the Belgian waffles, Turkish taffy, and french fries he's eaten.

Posted by: F451 at October 31, 2004 at 04:17 AM

Oh yea! Well Wayne Newton has raised more Arabians than Mr. Swayze and he's voting for Bush. So there!

Posted by: YoJimbo at October 31, 2004 at 04:18 AM

I once owned a German shephard so that makes me an expert on all things German. You can just call me Herr Germany. That means Mr. Germany to you non-German shephard owners.

Posted by: Randal Robinson at October 31, 2004 at 04:42 AM

Margulies has very pretty hair and eyes.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at October 31, 2004 at 04:42 AM

I'm an expert on Greek culture, but I'd rather not say why.

Posted by: Brian O'Connell at October 31, 2004 at 04:44 AM

I've been French kissed does that make me oh, no...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 31, 2004 at 05:00 AM

I had an order of french fries yesterday and was enlightened to the French culture....greasy.

This morning I learned a little more about the french people after indulging in french toast....

All this culture has made me much more understanding of them.

Last week I drove by an Arabian horse farm in Maryland but didn't realize I should have stopped in to get a better understanding of Bin Laden and his people.

Posted by: tej at October 31, 2004 at 05:18 AM

Please tell me that Swayze quote came from The Onion. Please.

Like Randal, my great dane apparently also makes me an expert on all things German. Who'da thunk it?

Posted by: Brett at October 31, 2004 at 05:19 AM

When they read the lines that others write, these actors sound so smart. When speak their own lines, they sound moronic. Better to stick to their day job.

"I'm going out there as a woman." Really, how profound. What kind of background research did you do to better understand your character?

Posted by: Forbes at October 31, 2004 at 05:27 AM

[You are still not allowed to comment. The Management.]

Posted by: Steve at the pub at October 31, 2004 at 05:29 AM

[You are still not allowed to comment. The Management.]

Posted by: Steve at the pub at October 31, 2004 at 05:33 AM

You know - they're right. I've been eating Chinese food for many years, so as an expert on China - I can talk with extreme confidence and knowledge of all things Chinese. Oh wait. Nevermind. With each actor/actress and singer - I become more of a country music fan (less the Dixie Idiots) and realize that in the future there will be a lot less movies and music I will pay for. If they would just shut UP - come Wednesday they wouldn't feel as stupid. Oh well. Glad they all like sounding like Osama and Michael Moore.

Posted by: Kathleen A at October 31, 2004 at 06:17 AM

Well, it's nice to see that Patrick "...told Gulf Today newspaper he badly wanted to play a sheik." Considering how he played a teen aged anti-Communist guerilla in that old movie, Red Dawn. Gues which role he really prefers!

Hey, Pat! F*** you, and the Arabian horses that you breed.


Posted by: The Real JeffS at October 31, 2004 at 06:20 AM

Oh yea! Well Wayne Newton has raised more Arabians than Mr. Swayze and he's voting for Bush. So there!

Who could have guessed that Arabian horse owners would play such a significant role in the election? The things you learn on the internet.

Posted by: Randal Robinson at October 31, 2004 at 06:23 AM

I'm holding out until I find out how Jennifer Garner is voting. Cause I want to impress her. In case the judge ever lifts the restraining order.

Posted by: Tony Iovino at October 31, 2004 at 06:30 AM

I am dying of laughter over Swayze's horse comment...what he won't tell you is that he trained some of those horses out at a stable yard next to where I go to church...smack dab in the boondocks of Texas!

And his mommie was a long-time ballet instructor here in Houston, hence the prima ballerina experience.

That comment, however, is rife with implications, however. Does it mean he's horse-cist? (as in 'some of my best friends are black...') What a joke!

Posted by: Sharon Ferguson at October 31, 2004 at 06:58 AM

Unfortunately Jennifer Garner is probably voting Democrat. I recall seeing that she made donations to a bunch of Democrats during the primaries.

Posted by: ATM at October 31, 2004 at 07:56 AM

Wull golly-gee!
Here in Flori-duh we just had no less than Kirsten Dunst, Cher, and Rosie O'Donnell come try to tell us how to vote. I shore am glad that they showed up 'cause now I don't have to study the issues, (readin makes my brain hurt 'cause I'm not a Hollywood Star) all I gotta do is vote how they tell me.
To hell with what's good for the country, as long as it promotes their personal agenda.
Note to Ms. Dunst, Ms. O'Donnell, and Cher:
Get in your limousine, go to the airport, get on your private jet and go back to Hollywood. If I want to hear from you, I'll go to Blockbuster.

Posted by: alfadog at October 31, 2004 at 07:58 AM

I was at the track last night and one of the horses took a big crap in the winners circle, now I know more about acting than I ever wanted to.

"Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"
-H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927.

Posted by: Arty at October 31, 2004 at 08:02 AM

"Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?" LOL. If only they'd listened to Mr. Warner!

I own a Persian cat, so does that make me an expert on Persia, or on ...., no, nevermind.

Posted by: Retread at October 31, 2004 at 08:27 AM

Patrick knows alot about horse's behinds because he is one.

Posted by: perfectsense at October 31, 2004 at 08:44 AM

I own two dogs one's a mongrel the other a bitch.Will that make me an expert on Kerry and Theresa?

Posted by: gubbaboy at October 31, 2004 at 08:47 AM

I drive a Japanese motorcycle, so I'm an expert on all things Japanese (arigato gozaiimasta).
Ja!

Posted by: Mr. Blue at October 31, 2004 at 08:47 AM

I'm an expert on Greek culture, but I'd rather not say why.

Hah!

I had a English Muffin today, so maybe I should spread my wisdom on the UK elections.

Posted by: Quentin George at October 31, 2004 at 08:51 AM

I once dated a democrat. After taking in an indian restaurant where we became experts on indian mysticism, i thought it waas time for me get a better insight into the workings of the democratic psyche.
Imagine my surpise when she told me that she too had wanted to do to me what the republicans had been doing to America.
One wonders what insights patrick has obtained from his "relationship" with his "arabians".

Posted by: davo at October 31, 2004 at 10:31 AM

Off topic
Arafat does not have leukemia.
The french may be too PC to actually identify the illness which fits his symptoms.


Posted by: davo at October 31, 2004 at 10:38 AM

Imagine my surpise when she told me that she too had wanted to do to me what the republicans had been doing to America.

She wanted to protect you from PC thugs?

Posted by: Quentin George at October 31, 2004 at 11:06 AM

davo,

Kinda OT but not really. The other night was watching "The Gangs of New York" again.

There was one scene where Bill the Butcher and some of his gang were partying in a brothel. One of the gang-members grabbed ahold of a cute little prostitute.

Bill the Butcher yelled out to him, "Better watch out, that one's Frenchified".

The prostitute angrily replied, "No I am not, I am clean".

It's always good to learn a new, and very useful, word.

Posted by: David Crawford at October 31, 2004 at 11:12 AM

The Real Jeff S — No, I think Swayze said he wanted to play a sheik badly,,,

"As actors it is our duty to read things in the newspapers and say them to people as though they were our own ideas..." — J. Garofalo, Team America

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 31, 2004 at 11:34 AM

I'm an expert on women's issues. I'm married to a woman. I think she's taking a black marker into the voting booth with her to write VOID across the ballot.

Posted by: Name withheld for perfectly obvious reasons at October 31, 2004 at 11:40 AM

I know a lot about Australia because I've been drinking a lot of Australian beers and wines.

Posted by: bc at October 31, 2004 at 11:46 AM

Cut Swayze a little slack. He was in one of the most memorable skits on SNL with Chris Farley, which happened to be almost as funny as the Arabian horse thing.

Posted by: SleepyInSeattle at October 31, 2004 at 11:52 AM

Good point, Richard. But if we want someone to play a sheik badly, then I suggest Jamie Farr; he did a pretty bad job on "Cannonball 2".

And at least Farr is of Lebanonese ancestry. Swayze would have to under plastic surgery to be convincing, or have some storyline that convinces the audience that a WASP can ride herd over a bunch of ubermacho Arabs.

On the other hand, maybe Swayze will be sheik of a dancing troupe....?

Posted by: The Real JeffS at October 31, 2004 at 12:00 PM

Can we finally give some props to our fellow citizens who just happen to be homeless crack addicts, for being experts on Columbia?

Come to think of it, I smoked a joint once and I'm pretty sure I spoke Spanish later on that night.

Posted by: Sticky B at October 31, 2004 at 12:24 PM

Well not to be outdone- I've got a nest of 'bull ants about 3 metres each way and how deep, I don't know. However does this qualify me as an expert on bull? bulls? entomology or having been bitten twice does that make me an expert on allergic reactions or a flaming idiot!!!!!!!!!
As he knows so much about the ME he should know that there is a lot of sand and he can go and put is head back in it.

Posted by: Rose at October 31, 2004 at 01:02 PM

Oh PULEEZE!!!

Patrick Swayze bought some show arabians. He's never had a hand in caring for them. That for years was left to Tom and Rita McNair originally of Glennloch Arabians.
Then anytime he was at a show, he was greasy, wearing the same clothes each time and usually either stoned or drunk.
That an expert on ME issues makes him NOT.

Posted by: mshyde at October 31, 2004 at 01:11 PM

Swayse knows about the ME because he has been RAISING ARABIAN HORSES!!!!??????????

Do these people ever realise how idiotic they sound? So let me test my understanding here - did the horses tell him about the ME? If so, how did he understand them? Is Swayse a secret horse whisperer?

I used to find moronic celebs good for a laugh, but lately they just make me angry.

Posted by: dee at October 31, 2004 at 01:15 PM

The Real Jeff S — "Get a physical! I love you!" C'mon, that's real comedy!

And Sean Connery pulled it off in the wind and the lion. Of course comparing Swayze to Connery is like comparing Malibu Ken to GI Joe with Kung Fu Grip...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 31, 2004 at 01:45 PM

"Swayze would have to under plastic surgery to be convincing, or have some storyline that convinces the audience that a WASP can ride herd over a bunch of ubermacho Arabs."

Ah, you must not see very many movies. Here's how it works...

White man, bitter & disillusioned by corrupt Western civilization (yet employed by it in official or semi-official capacity) is sent to reconnoiter/exploit/destroy a non-Western people. He soon realizes the superior dignity and spirituality of their culture and joins them. Despite their superiority, however, in the end it is our white male Western hero who teaches, leads, and rescues the ultimately hapless (yet superior!) brown people, earning their gratitude and friendship, which he reciprocates by returning to his corrupt and inferior Western life. Sigh. White man's burden, ain't it?

Your homework assignment is to rent "A Man Called Horse", "Dances with Wolves" and "Dances with Pandas" - er, I mean, "The Last Samurai." Bonus: In regards to "The Last Samurai", explain how Tom Cruise and his screenwriters expect us to lament the passing of a feudalistic, militaristic and fascist warrior caste that exploited and terrorized the commom people. Is it irony or stupidity?

Posted by: Dave S. at October 31, 2004 at 02:03 PM

Now ocasshionally I like a little nip of Jack Daniels, Makersh Mark, Teqila, Lager, Champagne-cross out last two so I reckons I am well dishposed to knowledge of affairss international

Posted by: Rose at October 31, 2004 at 02:03 PM

Er, make that "common" people.

Posted by: Dave S. at October 31, 2004 at 02:06 PM

Quentin George
Imagine my surpise when she told me that she too had wanted to do to me what the republicans had been doing to America

Whatever was meant it was gratefully accepted, and i have no guilt feelings about my temporary lapse from the Republican brotherhood.
Of course if i had revealed my true leanings to the lady, i doubt i would have been the recipient of her favours.
This is indeed the border at which principles are
temporarily suspended from the bedroom window for "the greater good".


Posted by: davo at October 31, 2004 at 02:53 PM

LOL, Dave! I did see "Dances with wolves" and "The Man Called Horse". You should realize that those films were based on the myth of the Noble Savage, which anyone who has spent a month humping through the woods (in friendly territory or not) "away" from civilization what a total crock that is. Those films depicted the loss of the "Noble Savage" to the oncoming hordes of Northern European colonists and their insatiable lusts for land and wealth.

This scenario hardly applies to Patrick portraying the leader of a tribal unit in a nomadic culture that is the result of a decadent civilization.

Now I did not see "The Last Samurai" precisely for the bonus points. While I admit to a certain fascination with the old Japanese culture, with a focus on the Samurai, I don't hold any illusions about a feudal society that practised, among other things, female infanticide. The passing of that lifestyle was long overdue when Commodore Perry opened trading relations with Japan.

But I agree the "The Last Samurai" is applicable to Swayze and his fixation on a sheikdom. Both are in feudal/tribal societies, with a ruling class chosen by birth, as opposed to ability or plebiscite. Both are in cultures that have stagnated or even declined. And both possess the warrior mythos in abundant quantity.

Not to mention, if Swayze's dream flick was ever made, we would have two films with actors who don't realize that they are long past retirement.

I trust this fits your requirements.

Sincerely,

Posted by: The Real JeffS at October 31, 2004 at 03:44 PM

Comparing Sean Connery to Patrick Swayze is blasphemy, Richard! It's on the same order as comparing Benjamin Franklin to Margo Kingston.

Men have burned at the stake for lesser crimes! Repent, ye sinner!

Posted by: The Real JeffS at October 31, 2004 at 03:48 PM

Patrick Swayze was dumb enough to be caught red-handed flying a twin-engine airplane drunk, with a bunch of booze socked away in the cargo compartment. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Butch at October 31, 2004 at 04:31 PM

Hope the horses don't grow up to be as dumb as Patrick

Posted by: Anthony at October 31, 2004 at 08:54 PM

The Patrick Swayze story (it's genuine) and full quote is over at TurkishPress.com.

Hey, I'm not ornamental, so I try to be functional...

Posted by: Alan E Brain at October 31, 2004 at 09:36 PM

Margulies has very pretty hair and eyes.

with a name pronounced "mah goolies" she probably has a nutsack as well though

Posted by: Anonymous at October 31, 2004 at 11:22 PM

Alan, This quote from the article is worse than the horse comment: "I've been trying to get to Iraq for a while just to support the guys, no publicity no nothing, just go and hang out with them, but the hard part is probably now if I go I'll die," the actor added.

He's already brain dead, so what's to lose?

Posted by: Retread at October 31, 2004 at 11:52 PM

Imagine my surpise when she told me that she too had wanted to do to me what the republicans had been doing to America.

She wanted to lower your taxes, give your child a better education and put you back to work? She a kinky babe.

Posted by: perfectsense at November 1, 2004 at 12:37 AM

Patrick seems to have spent way too much time at the rear end of the horse. Having injested all those horse farts, his brain has got a bit mushy.

Posted by: Andrew Ian Dodge at November 1, 2004 at 02:31 AM

Since Patrick has both Arabians and lightweight Dem instincts, perhaps he should do a sequel to his best movie ever and call it "Dirty Prancing".

Posted by: unperswayzed at November 1, 2004 at 03:19 AM

Not only does Patrick raise Arabians, it would seem he also reads French Letters?

Posted by: Steve at the pub at November 1, 2004 at 03:38 AM

Patrick can converse with the beasts because he's a horse whisperer!

Posted by: Lofty at November 1, 2004 at 06:21 AM