October 09, 2004
ELECTION LATEST
I’ll be at the Sofitel Wentworth (Liberal election-night headquarters) tonight until late, so readers are again invited to keep everybody informed via comments. Nine’s coverage begins at 6.30pm; the ABC’s begins when polls close at 6.00pm; and Sky News kicks into election mode at 4.00pm (all times AEST).
Visit the Australian Electoral Commission for poll data, and go to Currency Lad, Arthur Chrenkoff, Sam Ward, Bernard Slattery, Rob Corr, Alan Anderson, Tim Dunlop, Adrian, the Gnu Hunter, Mike Jericho, Chris Sheil, Peter Kerr, Tony the Teacher, Troppo Armadillo, Angela Bell and Paul & Carl for blog news 'n' views.
Sydney readers: supporters of unstable Wentworth independent Pat Sheil plan fun and chaos tonight at the Mill Hill Hotel, 59 Oxford St., Bondi Junction. I might be there after 11.00pm. Laborites will meet at the Broadway (corner of Regent and Broadway) from 7.00pm.
Special gloating and weeping forums will be posted here as soon as a result is called -- if a result is called tonight, and I'm near a computer. And able to type. These posts have been written in advance, so as to not reflect any of my evident bias.
Posted by Tim Blair at October 9, 2004 04:52 PMPollster Gary Morgan has again put his reputation on the line, going against the trend in other polls by forecasting a close Labor win tonight.
Mr Morgan, whose company Roy Morgan Research tipped a landslide victory by Kim Beazley in the 2001 election, has put the Labor Party ahead on a two-party preferred basis by 51 per cent to 49 per cent.
Mr Morgan said the result was too close to call because it hinged on marginal coalition seats, with the serious possibility of a hung parliament.
Much ado about not much in Wentworth.
No chance a Labor win due to a major preference flow between King and Turnbull regardless of the official how to votes. So it's Ind Lib or Lib and another one Lifelong has to win in lieu.
Whatta ya mean "And able to type"?
Being shitfaced drunk doesn't ever stop your American readers from typing in the comments!
C'mon John, ya boy-o!
Posted by: JDB at October 9, 2004 at 05:42 PMMorgan Poll is predicting a Labor win? God, another poll going Howard's way (based on Morgan Poll accuracy).
Let's not jinx it!
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 06:03 PMPollster Gary Morgan has again put his reputation on the line, going against the trend in other polls by forecasting a close Labor win tonight.
I think a Red Dwarf reference is in line here:
"I'll stake my reputation on it."
"Kryten, you don't have a reputation."
"No, but I'm hoping to gain one from this incident."
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 06:10 PMWhoah! A giant 350 votes have been counted!
Current results:
Liberal/National Coalition 147 40.38 +3.18
Australian Labor Party 217 59.62 -3.18
Must be Tassie.
Anyone know some election-night drinking games?
Take a shot when they count a vote.
...just kidding.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 06:34 PM4,000 votes counted. Too early for any real results, but currently a 6% swing to Coalition seems to be steady.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 06:49 PMJeeez...big Green vote in Bass, from early figures, remote booths, big worry nationally.
Good Lib primary, but that won't help if that's anything like national numbers.
ELECTION NIGHT DRINKING GAME
Skoll a Bundy, or drink of your choice, every time a talking head says either:
a) 'knife's edge'
b) 'too close to call'
c) 'in the balance'
If ABC heads start dissecting where it all went wrong for Labor PRIOR to 8pm, start on the doubles.
At that rate of consumption, by 8pm Kerry Nettle will start looking even foxier and your clever witticisms will flow, e.g. "Phwoooaaarrrr, I'm having an election - IN MY PANTS!!"
Later, if Labor victory is announced, geyser all those drinks in a looping projectile arc all over the television set.
Posted by: Sweet sweet Bundy at October 9, 2004 at 07:09 PMPreferences are definately going to play a part. At this stage, primary vote is up for Coalition and Greens, down for Labor, way down for Democrats and One Nation.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 07:10 PMYou heard it here first....
Bass & Brandon may have gone Lib.
B & B gone equals Lifelong stuffed.
Means 2 more need to be won on mainland.
Not probable.
It's over at 1820 EST.
Two Party Preferred Braddon
Australian Labor Party -7.18
Liberal +7.18
Two Party Preferred Bass
Liberal +2.91
Australian Labor Party -2.91
If Labor DOES lose these seats, it will struggle to make up the 10 it needs elsewhere.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 07:26 PMHeh, I know they've only counted 0.05% of the vote in Victoria, but the Liberals have currently a 14%(!) swing in their favour.
Something funky went on there...
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 07:31 PMAddition to drinking game. Whenever a talking head says "but remember s/he is a good/strong local member" when talking about why all is not yet lost.
Posted by: Just Another Bloody Lawyer at October 9, 2004 at 07:36 PMEarly days yet, but I say this with confidence:
It would appear One Nation and the Democrats are fucked.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 07:37 PMBring back Natasha! Give up the grog Andrew! I agree with you mate - whatever happens the greens are huge gainers whilst I cannot see the democrats getting any joy from this.
Poor old One Nation senator Lenny Harris - my old gold room mate - I dont even those red necked northern Queenslanders will save you now!
Posted by: Rob at October 9, 2004 at 07:39 PMI've already let my first Woooohoooo! and it's only 4:30pm here in the West!
Posted by: Dean McAskil at October 9, 2004 at 07:41 PMAll is not lost for Labor, they are up in Queensland, but then, so are the Liberals...weird, where did the extra votes materialise from?
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 07:43 PMDan Stapleton is blogging it up from the National Tally Room. He was one of the Election Trackers blogging for the site of the same name (my fave Tracker was Hailey Baldwin)
Posted by: TimT at October 9, 2004 at 07:45 PMDon't want to jump the gun, but 6.30 newsbreak seemed pretty negative about ALP prospects based on the swing against them in Tas.
'If they lose these 3 Tas seats it will not be possible for them to win'. Very downbeat.
I do remember 2 elections ago when seasoned ALP frontbenchers declared it all over and lost even before polls closed in the West. Who knows?
Posted by: Om at October 9, 2004 at 07:47 PMQlders get up earlier, more time to 'vote early vote often'!
Posted by: om at October 9, 2004 at 07:49 PMI'm calling Bass and Braddon for the Liberals.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 07:50 PMIt was over 1820 EST.
Bass & Banndon can't be compensated for.
Braddon, Banndon, Brandon
Blame conflicted spelling on "Asahi Extra Dry"™ (Japans No1 beer) best before 04/05.
Eden-Monaro is looking shaky. Labor might grab it.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 07:58 PMAll int'l stuff aside: I'm still curious what the difference will be to you Aussies, one way or t'other?
Other than having lefty jagoffs running things, like in SF or NYC up here, that is...
Posted by: geezer at October 9, 2004 at 08:01 PMWell, just best wishes from an Aussie citizen overseas in the states - I've been staying up late tonight wanting to have some idea of the results, but soon here, I think I'll be able to sleep without worries.
A Liberal victory (funny saying that, here we call the OTHER ones the Liberals) would be a very good thing. Go Howard!
Posted by: Patrick at October 9, 2004 at 08:04 PMOnly bummer at the moment: Green primary vote is WAY up. Mostly at the expense of Labor.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:04 PMGreenway leaning to the Liberals.
And only 99.64% of the votes yet to be counted there. ;)
Posted by: PW at October 9, 2004 at 08:05 PMQuentin - In QLD, the votes came at the expense of One Nation and the Democrats.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 08:06 PMAnd only 99.64% of the votes yet to be counted there. ;)
That's why I said "leaning". Heh.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:07 PMOoh, only 5% counted, but Latham has a swing against him in Werriwa.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:08 PMTalk to us tomorrow geezer.
It's time......
For giga piss up.
Michael Organ (Green) may keep Cunningham if he gets a good proportion of Liberal preferences.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:09 PMCurrently, the AEC has Labor 5, Liberal 7, National 5, Independent 2. The early swing to the Coalition is declining, so that was probably mostly Tassie.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 08:10 PMClick!
Labor 6, Liberal 11, National 5, Independent 2.
Still 1 doubtful in Tas.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 08:11 PMThis might be well to early and the effect of too many Crown Lagers but feel free to sing along
"Deep down in louisiana close to new orleans
Way back up in the woods among the evergreens
There stood a log cabin made of earth and wood
Where lived a country boy named johnny be good
Who never ever learned to read or write so well
But he could play the guitar just like ringin a bell"
GO JOHNNY GO
Hmm, Howard barely cracking 50% in Bennelong with about 5% of preferences counted...
Posted by: PW at October 9, 2004 at 08:14 PMHow about that, overseas guests -
Our votes are counted by the AEC...
Atomic cool or what?
Posted by: om at October 9, 2004 at 08:15 PMNone of you blokes and birds are equity traders, eh? Can't spot a trend? Still nervous?
Forget it.
It's over.
We won.
It's sure looking good, TT. But we don't want to just win, we want to squash them like bugs! Bwahahaha!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 08:18 PMHoward will get up. He's got a 4.75% swing against him though.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:20 PMIn the face of a 4th Coalition victory, watch the Fairfax/ABC Axis of Evil run with the 'Australia turns to the Greens' angle.
Posted by: Sweet sweet Bundy at October 9, 2004 at 08:21 PMBugger Professor Bunyip beat me to it. Go see
Posted by: Just Another Bloody Lawyer at October 9, 2004 at 08:21 PMBracks must be having a "drag" effect for the Victorian ALP...there's a 4.3% swing towards the Libs.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:22 PMOh is it time to drop the anonymity, give our secret call signs, and implement the 'secret plan'?
RWDB Hail!
Posted by: om at October 9, 2004 at 08:23 PMCheryl Kernot might have had the right idea to jump from the Democrats when she did...
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:24 PMPage:
29.93% Counted
43 of 82 polling places returned
Causley (Nat, sitting member): 49.48%
Bell (Labor): 32.69%
Jackson (Nazis, err, Greens): 9.72%
Anderson (LFF): 2.57%
Behn (I): 2.15%
Mateer (ORP): 1.68%
Griffiths (CEC): 1.08%
Flanagan (Socialist Alliance): 0.62%
TT, i trade commodities - Johnny be riding a strong bull market! And I reckon Biff doesn't know about stop losses.
Posted by: Sweet sweet Bundy at October 9, 2004 at 08:27 PMat the moment it just looks like a switch of the One nation vote to the Libs/Nats;
a switch of the Dems vote to the Greens and the tinest of swings to the government
Yee-fucking-ha! Sen. Robert Ray has virtually conceded.
Message to Left Tool Squeezers:
Suck it in you fucking losers!
Posted by: murph at October 9, 2004 at 08:30 PMPixy, Pixy, Pixy....
My seat is Patterson, Lib held by 1.4%.
An ABC marginal.
We've got these fuckers with a 5% swing to Lib.
Think massacre.
Enjoy the night.
I can't wait to read Phillip Adam's column...
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:31 PMPixy, Pixy, Pixy....
My seat is Patterson, Lib held by 1.4%.
An ABC marginal.
We've got these fuckers with a 5% swing to Lib.
Think massacre.
Enjoy the night.
Pixy, Pixy, Pixy....
My seat is Patterson, Lib held by 1.4%.
An ABC marginal.
We've got these fuckers with a 5% swing to Lib.
Think massacre.
Enjoy the night.
It's official. The Greens have taken the Labor primary vote and shagged it out the back, leaving it bloodied, bruised and no match for the Coalition.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:33 PMOfficial Australian Electorial Commission tally
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 52
ALP: 32
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 2.33%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 08:35 PMTT - thanks, I am enjoying it!
Quentin - yeah, pretty much.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 08:35 PMTT, we get the idea. No need to post it three times.
Posted by: TribeHasSpoken at October 9, 2004 at 08:36 PMWell Marky-Mark did stake a lot on getting pasly with Bobbie Brown and Petie Garrotte...
As the Working Class Man says -
'crying shame, got yourself to blame...'
Yeeeha!! reaching for the corkscrew.....
The long faces on the ABC are just the icing on the cake.
Official Australian Electorial Commission tally
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 58
ALP: 38
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 2.23%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 08:41 PMHave a look at the swings in the senate! Maybe a majority in both houses! The left will absolutely implode.
Posted by: Dean McAskil at October 9, 2004 at 08:41 PMOfficial Australian Electorial Commission tally
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 61
ALP: 40
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 2.26%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 08:43 PMSuggestions for Margo follow up:
Quite Happy, John.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:46 PMOfficial Australian Electorial Commission tally
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 64
ALP: 40
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 2.18%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 08:49 PMDear Gary Morgan,
You are useless. So, please predict a Labor victory in late 2006 or thereabouts.
Regards,
The Australian People
Posted by: Anon at October 9, 2004 at 08:50 PMSo...
What how many seats are there in the AU parly? 150?
Official Australian Electorial Commission tally
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 66
ALP: 40
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 2.13%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 08:52 PMThe upside for Lefties: 3 more years of material for dumb books!
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:52 PMWhat how many seats are there in the AU parly? 150?
Yeah.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 08:53 PMDemocracy wins!
Have to say I'm pretty proud, whoever wins. Despite the intense feelings of some, the atmosphere at my yuppieville Poll Station was very decent with opponents chatting amiably.
Which other country has a record of peaceful politics to match? (no offence overseas friends)
Posted by: om at October 9, 2004 at 08:53 PMSmapty - yes, 150 seats in the House of Reps, which determines who takes power. So Howard currently has 66 out of the 76 he needs to win.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 08:53 PMHow many seats did Howard have before this election?
Posted by: Smapty-527 at October 9, 2004 at 08:55 PMPage:
50.73% Counted
64 of 82 polling places returned
Causley (Nat, sitting member): 49.26%
Bell (Labor): 33.08%
Jackson (Nazis, err, Greens): 10.16%
Anderson (LFF): 2.51%
Behn (I): 1.73%
Mateer (ORP): 1.62%
Griffiths (CEC): 1.04%
Flanagan (Socialist Alliance): 0.60%
A 7.04% swing to the Nationals
TCP:
Causley: 54.31%
Bell: 45.69
A 1.54% swing to the Nationals.
Posted by: Sheriff at October 9, 2004 at 08:55 PMom - you're right. There are real moonbats out there, but they seem to make up a pretty small percentage of the population. Even the Green voters seem to be mostly quite pleasant, if a bit confused.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 08:55 PMTribeHas
Sorry, multiple posts due coincident phone line drop out.
Tune to ABC coverage and watch the deflated talking heads.
"It's the sweetest victory of all"
So, how about a poll on what time T. W.* Latham concedes?
I say 10:30 tonight. Then he mugs an electoral officer.
* That Wanker.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 08:59 PMI just got banned from CS's blog for informing him of the reality of this world.
Posted by: murph at October 9, 2004 at 09:00 PMBlogging sure beats passively watching TV commentators & their inane commentary, instead DIY...
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/
Up to the minute results.
53.44% LNP vs 46.56% ALP. +2.08 swing to LNP.
ABC is saying it's all over with major swing to the conservatives and ALP losing seats.
Posted by: Hanyu at October 9, 2004 at 09:00 PMJust heard the first "we won the campaign but lost the election" chestnut. Latham looks like going backwards - after all of the rhetoric by party hacks and stalwarts talking him up tonight, it is rare, if not unprecedented, for a party to hang on to a leader after they enter negative territory, especially after all of the, like, 'positive vibes' during the campaign man.
Posted by: Sweet sweet Bundy at October 9, 2004 at 09:01 PMOfficial Australian Electorial Commission tally
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 67
ALP: 41
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 2.07%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 09:01 PMKerry O'Brien wears a hairpiece. No man of that age (and he is showing his age) has natural hair like that.
Posted by: walter plinge at October 9, 2004 at 09:03 PMThey can win all the campaigns they like; we'll just concentrate on winning the elections. Hey, everybody's happy!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 09:03 PMI've already heard how they are spinning it
One Nation vote decline by 3%. Liberal vote up by 3%.
Therefore, Howard won re-election with votes of racists.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 09:07 PMWell, you know how it is.
They think we're evil.
We think they're stupid. Heck, we know they're stupid.
And all their hard work has come to naught! Take that, Sydney Morning Herald! Take that, Philip Adams! Take that, Margo!
Bwahahaha!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 09:09 PMHere's a funny thread to look back at.
Looks like we all erred on the side of Labor.
Red Kerry looks like he just sucked a dozen lemons, had a snipe at Nick Minchin about "negative advertising", and is pondering whether postal votes may yet have an influence.
(as if!)
Jeez, I'm loving this.
Fourth Term!!
Posted by: Pedro the Ignorant at October 9, 2004 at 09:14 PMOfficial Australian Electorial Commission tally
Primary votes counted: 48.07%
Two party preferred votes counted: 32.30%
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 68
ALP: 42
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 2.15%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 09:14 PMBobbie Brown just blamed the electoral system, 'Howard still only got 42% of the vote...'. Dictatorship!
But he's grinning like a Cheshire Cat at the Green swing.
Quentin - looks like Slatts pretty much nailed it.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 09:17 PMOfficial Australian Electorial Commission tally
Primary votes counted: 51.27%
Two party preferred votes counted: 35.66%
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 68
ALP: 43
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 2.13%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 09:19 PMDaily Telegraph came out supporting Howard today.
-Predict 'sinister hand of Murdoch in the result'...
But face it, lefties. We don't need the MSM for info any more, we get it straight from Iraqi Bloggers (amongst others).
Victory for the Blogosphere!
Posted by: om at October 9, 2004 at 09:21 PMRELISHING the next dinner party at my sister's house - she's a teacher, and husband is a University professor. Guess which way they vote?! Preparing myself for the obligatory 'I don't know ANYONE who voted liberal' exclamation. I'll be taking them chardonnay and humble pie.
Posted by: Sweet sweet Bundy at October 9, 2004 at 09:22 PM
Quentin George: "Looks like we all erred on the side of Labor."
I certainly did. I thought Howard would hang on by only a couple of seats, and I was ready to be very happy about that. Now I'm grinning like a cheshire cat.
I was so wrong - watch me dance a little jig of despair!
Posted by: David Blue at October 9, 2004 at 09:28 PMFairfax Headline: Howard Reelected, Environment, minorities hit hardest
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 09:30 PMWhat are the talking heads saying about how big Howard's majority will be? (I'm not in front of a TV)
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 09:31 PMIndian batting collapsing as well 5/86
can things get any better
Posted by: mike.a at October 9, 2004 at 09:33 PMBob McMullen looks suicidal.
Anyone feel sorry for the ALP?
Naaawwwwh.
Posted by: om at October 9, 2004 at 09:33 PMKimbo's on right now. Very gracious.
There's the man they should have gone with, and I think tonight is emphatic proof of that much.
Posted by: Grand Old Elephant at October 9, 2004 at 09:34 PM>can things get any better
Bob Brown getting crushed by a falling old growth tree?
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 09:35 PMThere's the man they should have gone with, and I think tonight is emphatic proof of that much.
Exactly. Why did they take a punt with a violent thug?
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 09:36 PMYep. If he'd been the Labor leader, I'd still have voted for Howard, but I could have lived with a Labor win.
But Latham? Ugh.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 09:36 PM
The pundit Timmy Blair
Put his finger in the air
Said "Latho's gunna win"
"He's bound to shit it in"
Timmy was all wrong
Johnny came home strong
Never trust a Blair
With his finger in the air!
What are the talking heads saying about how big Howard's majority will be? (I'm not in front of a TV)
22 seat majority.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 09:38 PMIn lighter news, Peter Garrett now MP for Kingsford-Smith.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 09:41 PM22 seat majority.
You're fucking shitting me. NO WAY! I was expecting him to loose 4 or 6 seats but to GAIN 10! Jesus Christ! Who's gonna dispose of all the lefties who are gonna take to the Draino tonight?
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 09:41 PMCongratulations Australia!
May your military continue to kick ass and your economy continue to be a world-beater!
Posted by: M.J. Smith at October 9, 2004 at 09:42 PM22 seat majority.
You're fucking shitting me. NO WAY! I was expecting him to loose 4 or 6 seats but to GAIN 10! Jesus Christ! Who's gonna dispose of all the lefties who are gonna take to the Draino tonight?
From somebody on the American side of the Pacific - this is beginning to sound like the great stampede of 2002. I assure you, a lot of us were astounded by the results that time, too; in the off-year elections in the USA, it's virtually unheard of for the incumbent party to gain seats - but it happened in 2002. Speaking as a Republican, I wasn't dismayed. :D
Posted by: Joe at October 9, 2004 at 09:45 PMIt doesn't get any better than this.
Kimbo just said that any loss of less than 25 seats is a HUGE victory.
Looks like up to 18 AMTP.
More latter.
Results are starting to trickle in from WA now.
Same story - Libs, Greens up, Labor steady, Dems, One Nation toast.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 09:48 PMDon't mess with the master.
(P.S this is an expat sitting (previously nervously) in a Saigon internet cafe.
Have the Libs picked up senate spots? Picking up 5-10 seats, while awesome, means nothing if the filthy fucking feral Greens take control of the Senate.
Posted by: John Fucking Howard at October 9, 2004 at 09:48 PMP.S. In my previous post, I was trying to italicize the part I was quoting, it didn't come out right. Sorry about that. I was quoting AMTP10E.
Posted by: Joe at October 9, 2004 at 09:49 PMYeeeeehaaaaww!! 4 in a Row. Phillip Adams must be a blubering mess. What excuses this time Phil? Again the great unwashed don't know what good for them eh? The dumb voters just cant be as clear minded as you? You LOSER! Oh this feels good. And I gave up the piss a while back... Damn!
Yep, second that on Big Kim. Latho does not come up to his bootstraps.
Posted by: Dog at October 9, 2004 at 09:50 PMSenate results are counted really slowly. Probably won't know the full story for days.
It's looking bad for the Democrats though.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 09:50 PMOfficial Australian Electorial Commission tally
Primary votes counted: 64.35%
Two party preferred votes counted: 52.93%
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 69
ALP: 43
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 2.08%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 09:50 PMCan someone please contact Mark Latham and get him to concede defeat - NOW.
If he has any sense of history, he has the rare opportunity to be the earliest concession speech in history.
This could be one of the few lasting achievements for a Labor campaign which seems to have been the epitome of hope over compentence & substance.
GO MARK We want you to be the ALP Leader forever!
Posted by: the_GOP_Elephant at October 9, 2004 at 09:50 PMI am SO going to love seeing the expression on Latham's face as he conceeds defeat.
And better yet I'm gonna get the chance to see it over and over and over again on every TV and newspaper in the country!
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 09:54 PMDoes the Leberal party care weather they win majority with the Nationals or without? i.e. 176+ all by themselves? Would that achievement make much of a differance in the end?
Posted by: Smapty-527 at October 9, 2004 at 09:55 PMTT - yep, all over bar the gloating. Oh, and the drinking. And then more gloating.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 09:55 PMSky News reporter John Mangos says Latham was, shock horror, very petulant on arrival at Sydney party headquarters. Mangos is curious about what the "golden boy" will say to the true-believers in his concession speech. What can he say?
Posted by: J F Beck at October 9, 2004 at 09:55 PMKimbo was spinning it was a good result for the ALP because he said they won more than they looked like winning last year.
amortiser
Posted by: amortiser at October 9, 2004 at 09:55 PMThe real problem for Labor is that their primary vote has been completely rooted.
Thirty fucking seven per cent. Fucking atrocious.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 09:55 PMSounds like great news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Its 5:30am here in the US and had to know how things were going go thanks for the hopeful update....Im going back to bed and hope to see COALITION WINS as headlines. thanks for all the great info . se you in a couple hours.
Posted by: debbie at October 9, 2004 at 09:56 PMWhat can he say?
I'm sorry I fucked around with issues of national security, insulted our closest ally, and have a terrorism policy that makes no sense.
I'm sorry I fucked over the true believers chasing after the Green vote.
I'm sorry I can't control my temper or my foul mouth.
That'd be a good start.
There's no pleasing some people. Over at the SMH there is a place where people can 'barrack' for their team. What a pack of sorry indignation.
I voted in Hong Kong and it was great to see asian australians out in force, proud to be voting. To those idiots who feel 'ashamed to be australian', those who voted in HK don't australia offers them the sort of democracy you cant find in HK and certainly cant find in China. The fact that we have a democracy is a comfort to ourselves, the fact that our democracy does not vote the way leftists want is a source of missplaced and undeserved self pity
Posted by: nic at October 9, 2004 at 09:58 PMWhy does it take so long to count the Senate votes?
Posted by: Evan Kirchhoff at October 9, 2004 at 09:59 PMBob Brown, on Sky News, claims it was a "marvelous" result for the Greens. He is "delighted".
Posted by: J F Beck at October 9, 2004 at 09:59 PMEarlier I wished that Howard would shit on the left like a German porn star.
Looks like I got my wish!
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 10:00 PMOzzie, Ozzie, Ozzie, Oi, Oi, Oi!
I haven't been this engrossed in an Australian election since I watched "Falcon & The Snowman" on pirated cable TV back in college.
Good on ya, John! Congratulations and thank you, Australia!
Posted by: JDB at October 9, 2004 at 10:02 PMDemocrats leader Andrew Bartlett says there is a danger the Coalition could gain control of the Senate.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Posted by: Quentin George at October 9, 2004 at 10:02 PMfour things
1) people who say there is a whiff in the air of government change are sniffing their ass
2) Morgan poll is complete garbage
3) D Shannhan runs the same column every election.
4) stinking Mark Latham is finished, the ALP is finished
Posted by: klein at October 9, 2004 at 10:03 PMSmapty - the Liberals and the Nationals have been in coalition roughly forever, and never contest the same seat. It's pretty much one party.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 9, 2004 at 10:04 PMthe_GOP_Elephant:
Agreed. I hope the party begs him to stay on and be leader-for-life.
Oh, and great nickname.
Posted by: Grand Old Elephant at October 9, 2004 at 10:07 PMDemocrats leader Andrew Bartlett says there is a danger the Coalition could gain control of the Senate.
That's the kind of news that gives this RWDB a hard on!
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 10:08 PMWell it seems that Margo Kingston has had a decisive impact on the election result - NOT.
Can we please start a fund to help her establish an office in Baghdad (with a big sign over the door - perhaps a neon sign) so she can (if she really means what she says about democracy) help to achieve that in Iraq in their coming election by going there.
E
Posted by: the_GOP_Elephant at October 9, 2004 at 10:09 PMLatest from the ABC :
66.3% counted
To Win : 76
Liberals 73
Nationals 12 (Coalition 85 total)
Labor 56
Ind 3
Green 0
In doubt 5
Last election:
Coalition 83
Labor 63
Independant 3
Green 1
Howard's in with an increased majority, the only question is, how much is the increase?
Looks like I was completely wrong, I thought Latham would get in on Green preferences. The Green vote has gone up a bit, but not in places that matter - in fact, they'll lose the one seat they had at this rate.
Posted by: Alan E Brain at October 9, 2004 at 10:10 PMResigned magistrate Mr Brian Deegan hasn't got up in Mayo.
Judging by the swings, he picked up the democrat vote and took a bit of the labor vote.
Posted by: peggy sue at October 9, 2004 at 10:10 PMGood on you, Australia. Hope we follow your lead in Nov. Now to find that punk Latham supporter at my local pub, and rub his face in it.
;)
Posted by: gimpy at October 9, 2004 at 10:13 PMAs an ex-Democrat, let me second Quentin George's laughter. Die, o shameful folly of my youth, die! The only thing almost as sweet to me as seeing Howard win is seeing Democrats lose. I wish I could bottle this day and drink it in my old age.
Posted by: David Blue at October 9, 2004 at 10:14 PMAre there any Oz websites that have streaming election coverage?
Posted by: HowardinSF at October 9, 2004 at 10:16 PMTurnip Head Crean is on talking about the "big lie" what a crock!
Posted by: Dog at October 9, 2004 at 10:16 PMThink that I'll have to go down to Mounties and see if Latham'll buy me a beer...
Posted by: rebel at October 9, 2004 at 10:16 PMThere is much weeping and nashing of teeth at Chris Shiels site.
May this be a portent of Nov 2.
Posted by: debbie at October 9, 2004 at 10:19 PMOfficial Australian Electorial Commission tally
Primary votes counted: 69.22%
Two party preferred votes counted: 60.85%
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 71
ALP: 43
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 2.01%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 10:19 PMHowardinSF (and others)
ABC Newsradio (which is a rolling all-talk news station - although it is an ABC site it is devoid of some of the lefty bias and editorialising) has audio streaming available on their site
www.abc.net.au/newsradio
I'm listening in while looking at the Australian Electoral Commission site
www.aec.gov.au
Posted by: the_GOP_Elephant at October 9, 2004 at 10:22 PM
How good is this!
Latham has been gutted like a fish!!!
I can't wait to see tomorrows wailing and nashing of teeth in the media.
Posted by: Harry Tuttle at October 9, 2004 at 10:22 PMPixy....7th heaven.
LOOKS like Libs have half the Senate.
Historic.
We had to get another case of coldies.
I believe that Latham's concession speech will start:
I would first like to say sorry to the taxi driver.
Posted by: Astro at October 9, 2004 at 10:25 PM38 coalition seats in the senate (exactly half) is looking a real possibility.
Starting next July, the lefties are going to be sclerotic.
Posted by: 2dogs at October 9, 2004 at 10:25 PMOfficial Australian Electorial Commission tally
Primary votes counted: 70.37%
Two party preferred votes counted: 62.19%
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 72
ALP: 44
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 1.96%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 10:28 PMYa wrong the_GOP_Elephant.
News Radio are they same Noamists that label the Islamofascist murders as "killings" and "beheadings".....
Subtle engineering but it won't fool you, eh?
The Australian mob has once again proved themselves to be a bunch of greedy materialistic racists. I am very disappointed and plan to move to a country more amenable to my enlightened views like North Korea once I sell my million-dollar mansion. I am at one with the workers and the downtrodden of the world.
Yours,
Philip Adams
Posted by: Philip Adams at October 9, 2004 at 10:33 PMOfficial Australian Electorial Commission tally
Primary votes counted: 70.89%
Two party preferred votes counted: 62.73%
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 74
ALP: 45
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 1.98%
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 10:33 PMTo our international friends, a coalition win in the senate as well is heaven. Even to win 38 seats (half) means the moonbats (greens & orphaned Dems) will almost be irrelevant to government.
Posted by: Dean McAskil at October 9, 2004 at 10:35 PMOfficial Australian Electorial Commission tally
Primary votes counted: 71.56%
Two party preferred votes counted: 63.28%
Seats needed to win government: 76
Lib/Nat: 77
ALP: 45
Ind: 3
swing to Lib/Nat of 1.97%
IT'S OFFICAL!!! HOWARD WINS
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 10:35 PMPhone call from a scrutineer in Wentworth is not painting the rosy picture that the AEC is showing. Two very large booths acording to the scrutineer and not yet phoned in may change this result.
Posted by: Astro at October 9, 2004 at 10:37 PMThat bloody Tampa's done it again!
Or was it the GST? No, maybe it was Telstra. Hmm, it can't be the left's policies or candidates. What could it be..
Posted by: Romeo at October 9, 2004 at 10:41 PMLatham has just conceded! Boo hoo!- taxi drivers of Australia beware tonight!!!!
Posted by: Rob at October 9, 2004 at 10:44 PMLatham conceding!
"A short time ago I spoke to Mr Howard and I congratulated him, his family, and his party on their election victory tonight."
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 10:44 PMMr Latham is not a happpy chappy in his concession speech (now on). Talk about a long face.
Posted by: walterplinge at October 9, 2004 at 10:45 PMLook at him - he looks in deep shock!!! Almost crying!!! Its ok Marky - dont cry. I will read you a special bedtime story tonight. Poky little puppy or something like that.
Posted by: Rob at October 9, 2004 at 10:46 PMFuck you very much and goodbye, Latham - I haven't been this happy with an ALP defeat since 96.
Posted by: Anon at October 9, 2004 at 10:47 PMWhere's Janine, she's not standing behind him tonight up on the podium...
Posted by: rebel at October 9, 2004 at 10:47 PMLatham is conceding.
Are you gonna cry? Are you gonna cry? He sure looks like he's about to. Channel 10 noted the wavering voice.
I wonder if he'll blame his defeat on the GST. Looks like Kimmy B is in trouble in Brand.
Posted by: Grand Old Elephant at October 9, 2004 at 10:50 PMPosted at Chrenkoff
Sincerest wish that what you say is correct, Howard won with more firepower behind him. WE 'Yanks' need to do our part and re 'up' Bush.
'We English speakers' must lead the world to victory over the scourge of, 'madmen' with beards.
Update: If correct at this time,
CONGRATULATIONS, Mr. Howard.
You are a fine and courageous leader. Hope we are able to return the favor to you fine and courageous Aussies, by having Bush with Four More years.
One request, send more V.B., to the U.S.
Posted by: Don at October 9, 2004 at 10:50 PMWhere's Janine, she's not standing behind him tonight up on the podium...
Probably up at emergency getting that black eye she got 'walking into a door' seen to.
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 10:50 PMI think that Mr Howard is probably on the phone to Rove right now offering to come on Tuesday night's show, that'll teach the puny ALP stooge to go off and show his true colours.
Posted by: rebel at October 9, 2004 at 10:53 PMA good ol' YEEHHAAAWWW from Texas, for ya! But boy is your party's name confusing to us Republicans! Congrats to y'all!
Posted by: DagneyT at October 9, 2004 at 10:56 PMAm I the only right winger doing the snoopy dance right now?
Posted by: Just Another Bloody Lawyer at October 9, 2004 at 10:57 PMHoward will be on soon - lets see the victory dance! Bring it on bring it on wooo hooo!!
Posted by: Rob at October 9, 2004 at 10:58 PMAm I the only right winger doing the snoopy dance right now?
Nope!
NUMFAR! DO THE DANCE OF JOY!
Posted by: AMTP10E at October 9, 2004 at 10:59 PMThe One Pod Sod has been beaten like a red-headed step-child, especially up here in Queensland. We don't take to no gonadally-challenged bogans up h'yar.
At least 38 senate seats- one more and a clear majority in both, and a clear mandate for some serious RWDB shit.
I've been deleted and banned over at Shielsies- they aren't very gracious losers, are they? Well I'm a gracious winner- I wouldn't think of suggesting that they all eat shit and die.
GOP Elephant
I hope your holidays are going well. Hello from the BA Loungue in Heathrow.
It looks my prediction wasn't far out.
All hail JoHo!!!
Posted by: Toryhere at October 9, 2004 at 11:01 PMGod bless you Austalia!!! Thank you from America!!! You are the best damn allies anybody could hope for!!!
I hope come November that we show the same wisdom in selecting our leader as you have.
Posted by: HA at October 9, 2004 at 11:03 PMHere in the People's Republic of Chicago, we're doing our sack dance! Steak for supper tonight, with a bottle of good Australian shiraz to celebrate - and to gird up our strength for November.
Posted by: Brown Line at October 9, 2004 at 11:05 PMCausely is Returned!!!!
Page:
78.92% Counted
81 of 82 polling places returned (the remaining Polling Place is probably one waaaay out in the sticks, rural electorates and all)
Causley (Nat, sitting member): 48.13%
Bell (Labor): 33.65%
Jackson (Nazis, err, Greens): 10.77%
Anderson (LFF): 2.68%
Behn (I): 1.55%
Mateer (ORP): 1.56%
Griffiths (CEC): 1.07%
Flanagan (Socialist Alliance): 0.59%
TCP:
Causley: 54.21%
Bell: 45.79%
Congratulations Aussies, from New Hampshire USA !
Woo Hoo ! This is gonna be a good day !
CNN are already spinning it in the U.S. as the victory being all about interest rates and nothing to do with Iraq.
Posted by: Sweet sweet Bundy at October 9, 2004 at 11:19 PMWay to go, Aussies!!! I love you guys so much. Congrats to the Coalition.
Posted by: Sortelli at October 9, 2004 at 11:21 PMFuck me dead re senate - time to sell telstra, probably with the help of the bible-bashers but.
when the hell is howard going to give his victory speech. i've been waiting for this since latham's ascendancy last december.
Posted by: Anon at October 9, 2004 at 11:30 PMThese two comments from over at the 'Sheila's' site go to show how good this victory really is:
I"f I was an alien trying to pick which "club" to join, just on the basis of the commentary on this blog and others, it would be bloody easy. The left/Labor/Green side of politics clearly has the vast majority of intelligent, thoughtful, caring, and articulate people supporting it"
"This election was stolen. Simple as that. Count every vote, they say, but they don't mean every IDIOT'S vote.
God help Aborigines, migrants, the enviroment, Iraq's freedom fighters and trees in Tasmania. Its just too sad. I cry as I write."
By the way, the asia -pacific ABC news has just come on here in HK, NO mention of the election as the laed story, its about Bush Versus Kerry!!!!!!
Enjoy it my children, enjoy.
Posted by: nic at October 9, 2004 at 11:31 PMMy god - Howard's smile couldn't get any bigger. I think he is splitting at the ears!!! Such a contrast to poor Latham. Winners are grinners was never truer as tonight!
Posted by: Rob at October 9, 2004 at 11:33 PMBloody brilliant!
Any chance of shipping Johnny Howard up here for a few months to ginger up our bloody useless Tory party? No?
Well, anyway - enjoy...enjoy...enjoy...
Posted by: Yorkshire Tyke at October 9, 2004 at 11:33 PMWhat a contrast - I think that Howard is almost crying trying to hold back the urge to just jump up and down going woo hoo! woo hoo! - up yours Latham and your big "stare down" moment this week!!!
Posted by: Rob at October 9, 2004 at 11:38 PM"I"f I was an alien trying to pick which "club" to join, just on the basis of the commentary on this blog and others, it would be bloody easy."
LOL!!!! Thanks, nic.
Posted by: Sortelli at October 9, 2004 at 11:38 PMAbsolutely brilliant news. I am ecstatic here in London. I voted last week and I have been nervous all day. Congrats to Howard and the Coalition.
Now for Bush to win!
Posted by: TOT at October 9, 2004 at 11:38 PM"Any chance of shipping Johnny Howard up here for a few months to ginger up our bloody useless Tory party? No?"
Bloody hell no!!!
Though, if you'd give us Blair, we'd have a slightly less useless, depraved Labor Party
Posted by: Sheriff at October 9, 2004 at 11:41 PMWhat a candidate with no clear message on terror and a penchant for insulting old allies losses? Please tell me this is a preview of Nov. 2nd in the US.
Good job Aussies! Congrats on a great win for Mr. Howard and Western Civilization.
Posted by: From_Florida_USA at October 9, 2004 at 11:47 PMAll right! One of the good guys won.
Congrats to John Howard and his party. and congrats to the Aussies.
But not only is this a win for Australia, this is also a win for the coalition countries and their fight against the Islamofascists.
And this helps George Bush too in his re-election campaign, believe it or not.
(After losing the first debate, the Bush team recovered after Cheney trounced Edwards. Then Bush beat Kerry in their second debate, evenning up the score. Now this from Australia.)
Now if we can make bush and blair (next year) win their re-election, that would be sweet.
Howard sounds like a true statesman. What a contrast to Latham and all those ALP wanker (a.k.a. Beazley), who were forever crapping on about "the big lie" and their "positive message".
Positive message, my arse! Here in Darwin, formerly the most marginal electorate, David Tollner has romped it in for the Libs! -- What a great day this has been!
Posted by: JPB at October 9, 2004 at 11:49 PMNow if the Bush people are smart, they would celebrate John Howard's victory like it was a victory for the Bush campaign.
Embrace the Howard victory, Karl Rove. DO IT NOW! Get the GOP media machine churning!
Posted by: john marzan at October 9, 2004 at 11:52 PMJust tell Family First you will spend the Telstra dollars on families and their vote is in the bag.
Posted by: drscroogemcduck at October 9, 2004 at 11:53 PMJPB, you said it!
Crean was intolerable, more so than usual!
Posted by: Sheriff at October 9, 2004 at 11:53 PMWhat can I say? Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!! Can't wait for the senate result
Posted by: Claire at October 9, 2004 at 11:56 PMMinimum of 38 seats, possibly one extra. If not 1 senator from Family First in Victoria will make the nut. Democrats gone completely, Bob Brown relegated to the irrelevence he so richly deserves. Better start looking for jobs, welfare sponges, and Doug Cameron and other ACTU thugs had better invest in kevlar undies. This makes up for the speed camera ticket I got last week.
Posted by: Habib at October 9, 2004 at 11:59 PMWay to go, Oz!
I'm hoping Australia and Afghanistan are excellent warmups for us here in the US next month.
Posted by: Dean Douthat at October 10, 2004 at 12:01 AMAnd the Senate's looking better and better!
-Fuck, I can't wait to read the commentary by Philip Adams and Kingston next week! :-p
What a laugh!
Posted by: JPB at October 10, 2004 at 12:03 AMDo check out the comments threads on the leftie blogs. The delusion on display is priceless. The look on Kerry O'Brien's head should be stuffed and mounted with the facial expression in place. This is worth bottling. In the words of Howard Dean:
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I don't have a problem with CNN noting that Iraq was a non-issue. It's true.
I like to believe they would have made the same point had the outcome been otherwise than it was, but I kid myself.
Posted by: Grand Old Elephant at October 10, 2004 at 12:09 AMClem:
backpagesblog.com, in particular, is a hoot. The tone there has become increasingly shrill, and many of the diappointed ALP faithful have developed a vitriolic hatred of mainstream Australians. Of course that was the case eight years ago; it's just that it's gotten worse.
Posted by: Grand Old Elephant at October 10, 2004 at 12:13 AMTony Jones, Kerry O'Brien, David Marr, Adams and Kingston last seen paddling out through The Heads on an unseaworthy vessel arguing whether to turn hard aport for North Korea or starboard for New Zealand.
Posted by: Bad Templar at October 10, 2004 at 12:13 AMMan, what a victory speech. I especially LOVED the reference to the Afghanistan elections. Made Latham's concession speech look like the ramblings of an idiot.
Oh, wait.... he is. Am I alone in thinking that Latham delayed his appearance so long because he DID NOT HAVE an concession speech? It was total crap. He simply thanked everyone, usually twice.
Can't wait for Philip Adams next column
MarkL
Canberra
Horaaaay, I raise my shot glass over this great victory. To those honest Labor supporters I say well played, to the Howard bashing bastards I say suck on that you communist pricks, your Not Happy John, War Criminal BS has been verifiably revoked by the people; lets wait to hear the cries of "f**k the proletariat". You lose and your collective whine wont make a goddamn difference.
One is in the bag, we down here are counting on all you yanks to deliver a Bush victory in your elections, we dont want to have to be on the recieving end of a Kerry cold shoulder.
Viva Democracy - Lets let the flag of freedom reign across all lands, fuck the terrorists. Almost going to break into my Howard Dean style Yeaaaaggghhhh!!!
Another toast (upto number 4) to this victory. Upon striking the post button a shot of vodka will be drowned.
Posted by: JBB at October 10, 2004 at 12:14 AMThank God. Congrats, Aussies.
My wife had to go to work this morning and the last thing she said to me was "TM me and let me know if Howard wins". I can't wait to send that message.
Just know that the US was watching...now go celebrate.
Posted by: Brett from Texas at October 10, 2004 at 12:15 AMWord is that even HICKS and HABIB voted for Howard!
Now that's what I call broad popular appeal!!
Posted by: Richard at October 10, 2004 at 12:24 AMHell! Your Lefties are suffering:
"God help Aborigines, migrants, the enviroment, Iraq's freedom fighters and trees in Tasmania. Its just too sad. I cry as I write."
(from Backpages)
Well, at least the blubberer put the 'freedom fighters' just ahead of those trees...
Posted by: Yorkshire Tyke at October 10, 2004 at 12:26 AMFrom the comments over at the SMH election site:
"one of the darkest day in Australia history - wz"
Whine on, ya illiterate leftie! Whine on!
Seriously, we love you guys. Any chance of a US/Australia Federation?
YOU LITTLE BEAAAUUTTTYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tim, top stuff, I've enjoyed your work. All you other fellow Aussies around here, YEAH!!!!
To the Americans who post here with all your generous comments, I'm never more overwhelmed and appreciative of anyone's support than yours. You truly are the finest upstanding mates we can ALWAYS count on in this world. You don't know how loyal you really are to the good people of this world... My old man fought alongside you tough bastards in Vietnam, and we love you, you know it. Thank you, sincerely.
LET'S PARTY FOR LIL' JOHNNIE!!!!!
Posted by: Jamie at October 10, 2004 at 12:26 AMLatham's concession sounded like a prima donna at the Oscars, thanking everyone for their support, down to the cleaning lady, Auntie Dot, and Mrs Entwhistle at No. 42.
Yeeks, save that kind of speech for the wrap party. For addressing the nation keep it suuccinct and don't bore us with your minutae.
Posted by: Romeo at October 10, 2004 at 12:27 AM"God help ..., Iraq's freedom fighters ... . Its just too sad. I cry as I write."
I would like to think this moonbat was referring to the Iraqi Police, and National Guard (and electing Howard certainly helps them), but alas, no.
Posted by: Sheriff at October 10, 2004 at 12:30 AMGood onya Oz. Pouring an early drop in yer honor and relishing Kookabura mode 5.
Posted by: Carl H. at October 10, 2004 at 12:30 AMAny SPINAL TAP fans here?
Would you say that the ALP is not less popular than it once was. It's just that "it's appeal is becoming more...selective."
Posted by: Richard at October 10, 2004 at 12:31 AMLatham looked pathetic during his concession speech...and very lonely.
Where was his (1) wife, (2) kids, (3) mother and (4) Gough Whitlam?
Posted by: Bad Templar at October 10, 2004 at 12:34 AMThink I'll go out and buy one of those "Rock Against Howard" CDs tommorrow. It'll be REAL fun to listen to now...
The members of those bands might have a problem with our soldiers helping to liberate an oppressed people, but I certainly don't.
Posted by: Richard at October 10, 2004 at 12:35 AMElephant....you got the Iraq thing wrong.
Most families here have fathers, grand fathers, great grand fathers with no history of taking too much shit from fascist ragheads of whatever nationallity.
Don't underestimate family history.
I'm gonna love tomorrows Leftoid spin.
I can't wait to go to the local leftie cafe (hey, I hang out there because the waitresses are tie-wearing lipstick lesbians) tomorrow to hopefully hear the anguished cry of: "but I don't know anyone who voted for Howard!!"
Is it just me, or did Kerry O'Brian look like he'd sucked a lemon?
hahahahhaha!!
Posted by: Art Vandelay at October 10, 2004 at 12:43 AMFrom Backpages:
Other from the above, I don't see any major mistakes by Latham, just an electron that couldn't be won.
Damn those electrons!
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 10, 2004 at 12:45 AMCongrats to the ordinary people of Australia who didn't let themselves be fooled by a lot of hot air and weaselspeak from the left. Ain't democracy a wonderful thing?
Posted by: Rebecca at October 10, 2004 at 12:46 AMYou said it right - now I can stand to surf around all those leftie sites, all the while employing Kookaburra mode 5. LET THE GLOATING COMMENCE!!!!
Posted by: Rob at October 10, 2004 at 12:47 AMForget the next Phillip Adams column (though I'm sure it will be SOOO amusing!). Just wait 'til Wednesday or Thursday for the NEXT MICHAEL LEUNIG CARTOON IN THE AGE!
I mean, Leunig makes Adams sound like Pauline Handson :-)
I envision Leunig's next work will probably involve a drawing of Osama bin Laden standing on the corpses of 20 million dead Australians. The caption will read: "this is what I [Michael Leunig] want!"
And that's if he's in a good mood (LoL).
Posted by: Richard at October 10, 2004 at 12:49 AMFrom ABC radio before the election:
PM's own straw poll suggests the race for Greenway could be much closer than that.
VOX POP 1: I would usually go more with Liberals I guess, but this time around I, yeah, it just depends.
VOX POP 2: I don't trust the Labor Party as far as their interest rate plans, and I don't think there's any benefit to me in that.
VOX POP 3: I'll be voting Labor. I like the youth of Mark Latham.
ALISON CALDWELL: Did you vote Labor last time?
VOX POP 3: No, I didn't.
VOX POP 4: I'm going to vote Green.
MARK COLVIN: Voters in Greenway in Sydney's northwest, speaking to Alison Caldwell
I am relieved at the results. Australia has been a damned faithful friend and looks like it will remain so. Somebody drink one for me - we are dry here at Bagram.
P.S. Tim, whatever happened to the vegemite?
Posted by: Major John at October 10, 2004 at 12:54 AMFrom the lefties' blogs commentaries:
"Don't despair comrades, we will prevail in the future."
I remember that's the exact phrase that used to be said by the communist leaders in my country of birth, when faced by the constant shortages of essential stuff...
What a bunch of utter losers! When is the ALP and the Left in general going to pause and realize that they have not been losing all these elections because of the electorate's stupidity, Howard's lies, Tampa or any of their other excuses, but simply because they are totally out of touch with the vast majority of Australians?
Well, on past and present form, I suspect they never will. After all, it is one of the hallmarks of the Left that they always know best!
Re-education camp, anyone?
Posted by: JPB at October 10, 2004 at 12:56 AMI can't wait for the "we were robbed" excuses. I've already heard that Howard won due to
a "scare campaign on interest rates"
What's next? The international Zionist conspiracy? Halliburton? Children overboard?
Did you like Kerry O'Brian's sum-up where he said that Latham proved himself as a leader, grew into the job, matured (yada, yada)?? I was yelling "he only got 38% of the vote" at the TV!
Posted by: Art Vandelay at October 10, 2004 at 12:56 AMExcellent news! Many congratulations, and hope you'll be saying the same to us seppos next month.
Posted by: John Nowak at October 10, 2004 at 12:57 AMThe media had so much to spin this week (Paul Bremer, the Duelfer Report, etc.) that the election result is doubly delightful. Congratulations to the voters of Oz, and may October 9th prove to be a portent of November 2nd.
Not Unhappy, John!
Posted by: Tom Veal at October 10, 2004 at 12:57 AMCoverage on 9 was a hoot- the lefties got bitchier and more snippy as the night went on. Odious little weasel Mike Kaiser was still claiming it was an even outcome- even except for the little matter of 24 seats and control of the senate. Michael Kroger asked him what time the spaceship was leaving. Tee Hee.
i think the sight of Howard's dial wreathed in a huge shiteating grin will be the final straw, and will cause Margo to vapor-lock and Phatty to pop a gasket.
It could only get better if I won lotto. (I didn't).
Thank God! I can start breathing again. I don't know enough about Australian politics to have had any idea about how your election was going to go so I was very worried. Not any more! Hurray for John Howard and God bless all the wonderful sensible Australians who voted for his party.
Posted by: LonelyRepublican at October 10, 2004 at 01:03 AMGreat job Aussies!!!
AG in Houston, TX, USA
Posted by: AG in Houston at October 10, 2004 at 01:04 AMAt the last election the Democrats got 5.4% and the greens 5.0% for a total of 10.4%. Now the combined vote at this election is about 8.2%.
HA HA
Posted by: Anon at October 10, 2004 at 01:06 AMCongratulations and thanks to Tim and Australia.
Posted by: charles austin at October 10, 2004 at 01:08 AMSo I guess Howard won. Here in the US Eastern time zone you would never know. I had to log on here to find out. Most people don't even know there was an election.
The only international news we get is news that portrays Bush and/or America in a bad light. On the other hand, that may not be fair - we also get news of natural disasters.
Hmmm...maybe there's a connection there, in the collective mind of the MSM.
Posted by: Amphipolis at October 10, 2004 at 01:08 AMIf I could be bothered finding it and transcribing ut & i can't, I would quote P.J.O'Rourke on the day after the Nicarguan elections upon seeing Bianca Jagger. But what he said.
Posted by: Just Another Bloody Lawyer at October 10, 2004 at 01:11 AMHurrah for Australia!
(I knew Howard had won when I turned on CNN and they said nothing about it for the first 10 minutes of the top of the news)
Congrats to John Howard and all of Oz. Best news I've heard in Indiana for some time.
BTW, love the shiraz.
Posted by: jvk at October 10, 2004 at 01:22 AMAwwwwww shes running away!!!! Margo is off for a month from Monday- its not fair! What about our gloating?!?!?!
http://webdiary.smh.com.au/archives/margo_kingston/000321.html
Posted by: Rob at October 10, 2004 at 01:23 AMWhat I especially enjoyed was seeing Peter Garrett, Latham and all the other comrades claiming that everyone in the ALP had done an excellent job. There was absolutely nothing wrong with any of the ALP's policies or attitudes, which implies that there is nothing to correct. Six more years!
Posted by: Clem Snide at October 10, 2004 at 01:24 AMHere's the passage, Just Another Bloody Lawyer, from "Give War a Chance":
'On the morning of the 26th, the day after Violeta Chamorro's victory over Danny Ortega, I walked into the Inter-Continental in Managua and Bianca Jagger was sitting alone in the lobby. Bianca had been ubiquitous during the election campaign: There was Bianca looking smart in an unconstricted linen jacket and yellow socks to match, Bianca looking serious with press pass and camera, Bianca looking thoughtful listening to Jimmy Carter, Bianca looking concerned conferring with Senator Christopher Dodd, Bianca looking committed in simple tennis shoes and neatly mussed hair, Bianca looking important wearing sunglasses after dark. But this morning Bianca looked...her age. Here we had a not very bright, fortyish, discarded rock-star wife, trapped in the lonely hell of the formerly cute - one bummed-out show-biz lefty.
'I was feeling great myself, ready to turn somersaults over the Ortega defeat, full of good cheer and pleased with all the world. But then the forlorn, sagging little shape of Bianca caught my eye and, all of a sudden, I felt EVEN BETTER.'
Thanks for reminding me of this, JABL. Great stuff.
Posted by: Jeffersonian at October 10, 2004 at 01:26 AMThank god for the internet. Here in America it's almost like a news blackout. When Howard looked down in the polls you couldn't hear enough about Australia rejecting the alliance. Once it looked promising for him, all you could hear weree the crickets chirping. After the victory? Not a word.
As an American, it's tempting to see this victory through the eyes of national self interest. Your country is a strong ally, and a true friend. This election is a much needed boost for morale here in the states. Still, there is a larger picture to look at. As the world faces a new dark age, there are great nations standing atop the world definding civilization. Some may mock the alliance of Britan, Australia, America, Poland and other nations, but it is our nations working together that will save the world from itself.
Having met some aussie soldiers, I can't think of another group I would want in the trenches with me. After America finishes is brush with madness in our election, it'll be time to roll up our sleeves and get back to work. In the meantime, let's raise a glass to Howard and the grandest military alliance in history.
Posted by: G. Bob at October 10, 2004 at 01:28 AMi just got in and i gotta say.. HOW FUNNY IS THIS?? what a great day!!! onyas all for voting the right people in.
Posted by: rosceo at October 10, 2004 at 01:33 AMI remember reading what P.J. O’Rourke said about the Nicaraguan election, in the old dead-tree-only American Spectator. I wish I had a copy. I’ll only mangle it, but it was one of O’Rourke’s greatest moments. Something like—how he was feeling so good, after Violeta Chomorro had defeated Daniel Ortega in the election, people were happy & festive, & he was in a celebratory mood when he went to the airport for the flight back home, yet, when at the airport, he saw the glamorous Bianca Jagger sitting there looking weary, bedraggled, her cheeks tear-stained, after this crushing loss after years of her idealistic struggles, he felt—EVEN BETTER!
Posted by: ForNow at October 10, 2004 at 01:33 AMBy the way, I have just had the following comment deleted from backpagesblog.com:
I think leftists should ask themselves "Why do they hate us?"
And, just for once, answer honestly instead of saying "The election was stolen" yet again.
Rub it in good, people. Victory has never tasted so sweet.
Posted by: Clem Snide at October 10, 2004 at 01:34 AMSorry, I didn’t notice that Jeffersonian had the quotation.
Posted by: ForNow at October 10, 2004 at 01:37 AMYES!! Congratulations Australia. Best news in a long time.
Posted by: IceCold at October 10, 2004 at 01:37 AMAll this adulation for Howard's victory makes me sick. We consign ourselves to the bitter pages of history with this election result, and what they write will not be pretty.
Posted by: Nadia at October 10, 2004 at 01:44 AMAn excellent result, and magnificent achievement for Howard. It is as elections are in America, great to see that the vast majority can just chew up the leftist propaganda that comes their way and just spit it out.
Latham is a vile, disgusting creature, the dregs of the dregs, he will never be Prime Minister of this country as the media are trying to paint him as, never. At best he'll be an Arthur Calwell or Herbert Evatt, a mad idiot how loses election after election.
Posted by: klein at October 10, 2004 at 01:44 AMOn my list of of things to do next week:
Archive Backpages comments threads for the last 6 hours to use in the next election (something along the lines of "Ever wondered why the people who talk most about "the people" are the first to call them dumb fucks when they don't do what's expected of them?").
Find a rubbish bin big enough to accommodate Gary "Final Morgan Poll - ALP Ahead, Too Close to Call - Possible Hung Parliament" Morgan. Is that guy stuffed, or what?
Establish list of all the people in the next week who say they're going into exile then watch as they a) find that life outside their sinecure isn't as easy as they thought and thus quietly stay put, b) find jobs in ... the US, or c) end up in NGOs in places like Vietnam and Cambodia, where the "masses aren't so stupid".
Assign fingers of one hand to count lefties who learn the lesson of this election: i.e., stop telling people what they should do and think.
And finally, watch in horror as the moonbats flock to support this woman, who is undoubtedly the most insane Nobel peace laureate ever (and that's saying something).
Posted by: Hanyu at October 10, 2004 at 01:46 AMNadia, how arrogant you are!
Who are you to tell how history will be written?
Posted by: Sheriff at October 10, 2004 at 01:48 AMOh, come on, I barely posted this and there's this on Backpages (see # 2 in my comment above):
"Time to start thinking leaving Australia." Posted by: G. Regan at October 10, 2004 12:35 AM
Posted by: Hanyu at October 10, 2004 at 01:50 AMman, i cant stop giggling!!! this is SO GOOD! as homer simpson would say in this situation; IN YOUR FACE LEFTIES!!!! WOOHOO!!
Posted by: rosceo at October 10, 2004 at 01:50 AMi'm going to bed guys. dont bother dealing with the leftists units now... just enjoy the moment. yeehaw!
Posted by: rosceo at October 10, 2004 at 01:54 AMINDEED ROSCEO!!!!!!!!!
"Having met some aussie soldiers, I can't think of another group I would want in the trenches with me. After America finishes is brush with madness in our election, it'll be time to roll up our sleeves and get back to work. In the meantime, let's raise a glass to Howard and the grandest military alliance in history."
How much of a relief is it to know that there is a nation bigger than ours that means business even more. Thank God for the yanks!
I'm getting another beer!!
Posted by: Jamie at October 10, 2004 at 01:55 AMJPB — "Don't despair comrades, we will prevail in the future."
I think a more relevant quote would have been Brecht's:
Do not rejoice, you men. For though the world stood up and stopped the bastard, the bitch that bore him is in heat again."
The left. They don't learn, and they don't forget.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 10, 2004 at 01:55 AMJPB — "Don't despair comrades, we will prevail in the future."
I think a more relevant quote would have been Brecht's:
"Do not rejoice, you men. For though the world stood up and stopped the bastard, the bitch that bore him is in heat again."
The left. They don't learn, and they don't forget.
Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 10, 2004 at 01:56 AMTo paraphrase the immortal PJ, I was feeling great till I thought how Phillip Adams, Robert Manne, Mad Margo, Alan Ramsay, John Hewson, Malcolm Fraser, Keating, A-dill Whore-in, Hugh MacKay etc must be feeling, and then I felt wonderful beyond description. Let's send them all e-mails to rub it in!
Posted by: Sue at October 10, 2004 at 01:59 AMGo OZZIES!
The good guys win again! Your stateside brothers are with you today, as you have been with us throughout my lifetime. (70 years)
Long Live our Mates from Australia!
From an american who even had a good time in Wollongong! Just better at The Rocks!
Posted by: EddieP at October 10, 2004 at 02:00 AMCongratulations to Sinista Prime Minista Hizzoward and all the peeps of Australia, yo!
Keep it real, doggz.
I have no clue where that came from. Really, congratulations.
Posted by: Greg at October 10, 2004 at 02:01 AMJBB -- "One is in the bag, we down here are counting on all you yanks to deliver a Bush victory in your elections, we dont want to have to be on the recieving end of a Kerry cold shoulder."
That, or a couple of hundred million American immigrants...
Posted by: richard mcenroe at October 10, 2004 at 02:02 AMOh ye of little faith!!!
We won and we won so unbelievably convincingly!!!
I was at Wentworth HQ, the feeling was ecstastic. There's going to be a few ABC apparatchiks slitting their wrists tonight.
Posted by: Michael C at October 10, 2004 at 02:03 AMGreat news. On top of that, Jacques Derrida just died.
Posted by: werner at October 10, 2004 at 02:05 AMA sweet night, but do you know what THE sweetest part is?
Gough won't get to see his legacy affirmed and one of his pupils elected before he leaves this mortal coil. For a vindictive man such as myself, that's enough to have me grinning like a Cheshire cat.
Posted by: Grand Old Elephant at October 10, 2004 at 02:07 AMCongratulations, Australia, our brothers and sisters!!! I hope we follow your example in November. O/w, save me a place down under!
For a photo of another place and another very important election, go to instapundit.
Just imagine how ticked off the terrorists are today!! Heeheeheee
Ta G.Bob, lots of Aussies with your thoughts! We work well together.
Posted by: marten at October 10, 2004 at 02:09 AMJust another Texas-American here wishing you all the very best on this bright day. CONGRATULATIONS! Hope this is an omen for our election!
Posted by: One of assorted Bruces at October 10, 2004 at 02:11 AMThe Libs are going crazy tonight in Brisbane - I just returned home, and have a gut-full of booze. Yay us!
Posted by: Marty at October 10, 2004 at 02:13 AMGood on ya, Aussies!! Congratulations!
A Latham-ALP victory would have been relentlessly trumpeted by the Left here in order to damage Bush and boost Kerry. Howard's triumph will give us Republicans a morale boost!
Thanks, Australia! You all deserve to celebrate with a barby and lots of tinnies!
Posted by: Bruce at October 10, 2004 at 02:24 AMNadia, the people of Australia have just written the history tonight. This election was not "stolen", was not "scaremongered" or anything like it. The population simply did NOT WANT what the ALP was offering *smart population*
Posted by: Steve at the pub at October 10, 2004 at 02:29 AMJam it up your arse The John Butler Trio, The Triple J crew, Sandy (fuckin) McCutcheon, My "No War" Car sticker Hippie next door neighbour, The fuckin tool in the rat costume, All the dreadlocked wankers bonging up on our Taxes, 90% of the Journos at the SMH and of course Marky Mark Latham. Welcome to REJECTION.
Posted by: Dog at October 10, 2004 at 02:42 AMre: Chris Sheil's blog - my favourite note in a symphony of dispair:
Gee fellas - these shit sandwiches are looking really yummyPosted by Albatross2147 on October 9, 2004 08:34 PM
In an echo of a similar hilarious thread on Democratic Underground, some are seeking asylum in New Zealand. I say give them asylum, and the medication contained therein.
Posted by: Craig Mc at October 10, 2004 at 03:17 AMThe left and the commentariat have never given Howard any credit or respect. Did you see the pic of Latham and Howard shaking hands on Staurday's paper? It was almost as if Latham was trying to intimidate him, as if he only needed to scare him to win. But Johnny's too smart for that.
This is the sweetest victory of them all.
Posted by: The Big E at October 10, 2004 at 03:37 AMAnother supportive friend in the U.S. here. We're looking forward to seeing the same kind of dour faces among our media-ocracy on November 2.
Having to face overwhelming media bias against your candidate and philosophy is so frustrating...but does it make the win that much sweeter? And does it make your love for your fellow countrymen who refuse to be brainwashed and spun that much greater?
Posted by: allyk at October 10, 2004 at 04:33 AMWe love you Australia! Thanks for being such true friends! I'm drinking Australian wine this evening in celebration!
Posted by: Nicole Griffin (US) at October 10, 2004 at 09:56 AM>Nadia, how arrogant you are!
>Who are you to tell how history will be written?
I fail to see how my comment sounded arrogant... But based on what Howard has already done to this country, history, in my opinion, will not look favourably upon his time in office. As if 4 terms of the Howard government is anything to be proud of. But I'm never going to sway opinion here, among the bunkered-down conclaves of the right-wing.
But what's the use of retrospect when the damage has already been done? A change of government could have done so much for this country. But yesterday is now history, and a decision I am proud to say I voted against.
Posted by: Nadia at October 10, 2004 at 01:38 PMNadia, anyone who 'knows' that history will be written in accordance with their personal politics is arrogant.
Posted by: Sheriff at October 10, 2004 at 03:55 PMNadia is sad :( rosceo is happy! :) and really, that's all that matters!!
Posted by: rosceo at October 10, 2004 at 06:18 PMTrue, but if at least one National Socialist can learn from their blunders in this election, and the last, and the one before that, and the one before that, oh ... wait. Forget it.
Posted by: Sheriff at October 10, 2004 at 06:41 PMI bet you Nadia would have voted Whitlam in 1975.
Posted by: Quentin George at October 10, 2004 at 08:18 PMBut based on what Howard has already done to this country, history, in my opinion, will not look favourably upon his time in office.
Well, good to know you have the clarity of vision to recognize all the problems of the Howard government that the electorate at large apparently was too stupid to see. For the third time.
Sheriff got it slightly wrong, you're not particularly arrogant. You're just exceedingly condescending, a trait you share with many people of the Left. But hey, keep talking like that, keep pissing off regular people with that I-know-better-than-everybody-else attitude and it'll be six more years. At a minimum. And your type will deserve each and every one of them.
Posted by: PW at October 10, 2004 at 09:21 PMMorgan likes to do his bit for the left with his idea of self fulfulling prophecy through polling results.
His altruism in this respect is showing no positive results for his cause and his company's worth must be bottoming out like the vote for Labor.
Who in their right mind would use Roy Morgan Research for polling information now?