September 20, 2004


• "He advanced on her, his tousled hair looking great."

• Daily Kos is unhappy about being listed as a satire site by Google: "Someone should look into this. It might send a wrong message to newcomers."

• The Australian’s Patrick Smith demands that Victorians go to the Grand Final, whether they want to or not:

If Victorians do not pack the MCG then they are as small-minded and insular as the Melbourne Sunday Herald Sun believes them to be. And Melbourne could hardly continue to brag that it is the sporting capital of the world. That would just be drivel.

Sydney is the gay capital of Australia. I order Smith to hang out at an Oxford Street leather bar for the rest of the month.

• George W. Bush is getting hammered in this international poll, which asks: "What if the whole world could vote in the U.S. presidential election?" It’s not exactly reliable (maybe to CBS!) but check the results for Afghanistan and Iraq relative to France, the UK, and Germany ...

• So Bernie Slattery reckons I know nothing about politics, eh? Well, check out this horrible poll, then! (Of course, Bernie is probably right. I hope so, anyway.)

Posted by Tim Blair at September 20, 2004 02:13 PM

So Daily Kos got listed as a satire site? That's not right.

I've been listing him as Russian lolita porn...

Posted by: richard mcenroe at September 20, 2004 at 02:46 PM

I thought he was a Nigerian barrister.

Posted by: slatts at September 20, 2004 at 02:51 PM

Port v Lions - pah! Thanks AFL for ruining my Grand Final BBQ! I'll check the guide - there might be something good on the other channel.

Posted by: Pig Head Sucker at September 20, 2004 at 03:06 PM

Feh, I wouldn't put any stock into that "international poll." It indicates, for example, that Israelis actually back Kerry over Bush, which is contradicted by at least two actual polls:

IMRA, August 6
AFP, August 11

Posted by: E. Nough at September 20, 2004 at 03:16 PM

Wouldn't it be great if all those people could really vote for the president/prime minister in their OWN countries?

Posted by: a guy in pajamas at September 20, 2004 at 03:31 PM

If Victorians don't want to go to the Grand Final, I know a lot of Queenslanders who missed out yesterday and would gladly take their places (me for one).

Posted by: john at September 20, 2004 at 03:36 PM


It's a Morgan poll (AKA a complete joke).

On the Granny, why has every journo (at least in the Sydney/national media) forgotten the Lions are a merged entity and there'll be heaps of Roy Boys (and Girls) cheering them on on Saturday?
May be an all interstate affair but at least the Mexicans can salve some of the pain remembering Fitzroy. If they win, the post-match get together will be at Brunswick Street Oval, Nth Fitzroy, not Brisbane.
The real nightmare for mine would be the Crows v Power. The two teams with the most dysfunctional supporters in any sport anywhere (even the Old Firm in Glasgow). The horror ... the horror. To outsiders, imagine putting 60,000 people with the biggest shared inferiority complex imaginable together, in a city they are genetically programmed to be neurotic about.
Let's hope the Power do it for Collingwood on Saturday, so the 27-30 'pies remain the greatest side that ever played!

Posted by: BH at September 20, 2004 at 04:07 PM

Come off it mate, we all know from last time that being ahead in a Morgan poll is bad news. I'll be worried if the trend continues and we pull ahead. Either way, I'm looking forward to another huffy explanation from Morgan about why his face to face polling really is better than telephone polls, not withstanding the fact that they are invariably less accurate (probably because the sort of bludgers who are always at home get over-represented).

Posted by: ABC Al at September 20, 2004 at 04:20 PM

As to that "international" Bush-vs-Kerry poll, it seems that it's on the "honor system" when permitting you to designate your country of origin. (Instead of, for instance, deducing your country from your IP.)

I would venture to guess that a lot of non-Afghanis and non-Iraqis have decided to vote on behalf of people living in those countries who would really support Kerry if they had access to the site.

Enough have done so to put Kerry in the lead for both countries, as I post this.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at September 20, 2004 at 04:29 PM

Well, it's only fair. After all, the Germans could let Americans vote in their elections - but then how would Neo-Nazis and Old-Style Communists get elected?

Posted by: Quentin George at September 20, 2004 at 05:19 PM

Wonder how Kos found out (do they read this?)

Satire is entirely too complimentary.

Meanwhile explain to me why this has 69% of US voters polling for Kerry and only 30% for President Bush when this poll has an electoral estimate of 535 to President Bush and 3 to Kerry resulting in Kerry winning exactly ONE STATE.

Hmmm theres a discrepancy there, that last poll looks like 2% to Kerry only in the USA.

Now if all those other polls in betavote are similarly adjusted, to parallel the AOL poll; while France only rises to 15% pro Bush, Afghanistan and Iraq now prefer Bush 150% with Kerry running at a 50% minus. Even Iran polls at 120% pro -bush.
Any minute now President Bush could be voted King of the middle east judging from those sorts of maths. Still I never claimed to be a mathematician.

Posted by: dawn at September 20, 2004 at 08:14 PM

Kos should embrace the idea. He could then claim he didn't really mean he didn't give a shit ("fuck 'em!") when four American security contractors were murdered, mutilated and strung up like pigs in Iraq.

Posted by: Sean at September 20, 2004 at 08:20 PM

There is nothing in the "International Poll" to prevernt multiple voting, or to check the conutry of origin of the votes.

So it is completely worthless except as evidence that Kerry supporters are more naturally dishonest - but we knew that already.

Posted by: Sue at September 20, 2004 at 09:32 PM

Kos is the Ted Rall of satire sites.

Posted by: Todd at September 21, 2004 at 12:59 AM


Since when did Antarctica become a country?

Posted by: Mark at September 21, 2004 at 01:01 AM

Wish I'd known about Kos being satire! This changes everything.

Posted by: Eric Scheie at September 21, 2004 at 01:32 AM

I have contacted Google in the past...they claimed that anything Satire was labeled as Satire so it was OK to show in the NEWS search....I told them that was not OK.....and they should EXCLUDE all satire from the News search.

They said they would think about it
its crazy IMO

Posted by: reality check at September 21, 2004 at 01:42 AM

Exactly. I find it kind of odd that Antarctica is on the poll at all, and that it has even that many votes. I also wasn't aware that people in China, North Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Iran, and Zimbabwe would have easy access to a computer as evidenced by the number of votes, never mind that they would be able to vote for Bush without fear of government monitoring and punishment (especially in Iran and Vietnam, where it's well-known that Kerry is widely hated by the populations). Many other countries also seem out of line or at least disproportionate across Europe, Central America, and East Asia/Pacific.

Posted by: Pat at September 21, 2004 at 02:28 AM

This poll is a joke. Look, for example, at the US, where Kerry leads Bush 70% - 30%. And, if these results (Kerry - 52% - Bush - 47%) represent the feelings of the citizens of Israel, then these people are truly self-destructive.

Posted by: Reality Check at September 21, 2004 at 02:39 AM

Re cliffhanger to "tousled hair":

"...but I can't let you get away with this." He leaped.
The... End?"

Probably the "BLAM" isn't a gun report, as we are being led to believe, else the next installment leaves us with a corpse. Scully could cover her tracks with a suicide note using cut and paste magazine words which Marcel Matley, a psychic, and Ben Affleck could then authenticate on Hollywood Squares.

Better, though, if Buckhead makes a timely appearance and, BLAM!, hits Mulder over the head with his suspiciously keen grasp of mid 20th century typography or some such....

Treacher has started something he's going to have to finish. And the countdown begins: 1

Posted by: X Files (for Xerox?) at September 21, 2004 at 02:50 AM

George W. Bush is getting hammered

This would be a major scandal if proven; he claims he got his drinking under control a long time ago...

Posted by: triticale at September 21, 2004 at 03:36 AM

Hmm, according to that poll, North Korea likes us better than South Korea. Maybe it's beneficial to leave madmen in power after all.

Posted by: W. at September 21, 2004 at 05:21 AM

Look at the USA numbers on the international poll. It shows Kerry leading Bush by 69% to 30%! Apparently this poll oversamples the far left to an extreme degree. This adds a little perspective to Bush's small lead in Iraq.

Posted by: Mike at September 21, 2004 at 05:24 AM

Since you expressed an interest, here's a sneak preview:


Skinner held his pistol, still smoking and pointing at the ceiling, his hairless head shining like a shiny penny in the shadowy light. "What's going on here," he requested.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 21, 2004 at 07:09 AM

Whoe are these damned Andorrans and why can't they make up their minds?

Posted by: Hucklebuck at September 21, 2004 at 08:40 AM

Neat way to avoid the corpse, Treacher. But some of us don't watch X-Files. Who is Skinner? Or is he a Roveian operative?

Posted by: TV illiterate at September 21, 2004 at 09:39 AM

That's quite a link on Skinner with 3,000 images of his naked pate.

We're all looking forward to X-Files 2: part 2 and other great words, like "librarianishly".

Posted by: c at September 21, 2004 at 12:05 PM