September 17, 2004

NEWS BRIEFLETS

• Emerson College professor Jeffrey Seglin is frightened by blogger exposure of Memogate:

"The mainstream press is having to follow them," said Jeffrey Seglin, a professor at Emerson College in Boston. "The fear I have is: How do you know who's doing the Web logs?"

Beats me. Read them? Would that work?

"And what happens when this stuff gets into the mainstream, and it eventually turns out that the '60 Minutes' documents were perfectly legitimate, but because there's been so much reporting about what's being reported, it has already taken on a life of its own?"

I guess we’ll find out ... when the documents are revealed to be perfectly legitimate.

• Reader Ernie G. writes: "I just read that Ivan, now just a Category 1 storm, is due to be downgraded to Tropical Storm in a few hours. James Wolcott must be so disappointed."
 
• Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) doesn’t care about fairness and accuracy in reporting:

Instead of asking the White House tough questions about the well-documented information contained in these reports, media have focused almost exclusively on the claims and counter-claims made about the Killian memos-- as if the discrepancies over Bush's service record stand or fall based on this one set of disputed documents. It's the equivalent of covering the sideshow and ignoring the center ring.

• Read and laugh as hopeless Guardian journalist Tim Dowling attempts to infiltrate the "crazy rightwing nerds at freerepublic.com", only to be sussed out and booted within two minutes.

• Same paper, same day: Economic growth to accelerate in 04/05 and Economic growth tipped to slow in 2005.

• Jim Treacher is all over the Rather/Space Unicorn story. Here’s a stunning update that the MSM seems to have completely missed.

• Maureen Dowd is deeply puzzled:

John Kerry can't seem to take advantage of any of the Bush administration's increasingly calamitous blunders.

Posted by Tim Blair at September 17, 2004 03:06 AM
Comments

"And what happens when this stuff gets into the mainstream... and because there's been so much reporting about what's being reported, it has already taken on a life of its own?"

You mean, like Bush the Elder being baffled by a supermarket scanner?

You mean, like Bush the Younger holding up a plastic turkey?

Oh, wait, those things were reported by honest-to-gosh suit-jacket-and-tie wearing ace reporters in the MSM. Not nearly the same thing.


Posted by: Dave S. at September 17, 2004 at 03:21 AM

"And what happens when this stuff gets into the mainstream... and because there's been so much reporting about what's being reported, it has already taken on a life of its own?"

You mean, like Bush the Elder being baffled by a supermarket scanner?

You mean, like Bush the Younger holding up a plastic turkey?

Oh, wait, those things were reported by honest-to-gosh suit-jacket-and-tie wearing ace reporters in the MSM. Not nearly the same thing.

Sorry,pal - bloggers may wear pajamas, but the Emporer of the MSM is buck naked.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 17, 2004 at 03:24 AM

Note to maureen: "Gee lady, you think maybe he's a stiff?"

Posted by: Frank Martin at September 17, 2004 at 03:31 AM

FAIR is famous here for their outrageous complicity in the "Super Bowl Sunday = Domestic Violence" hoax several years ago. In fact their rebuttal from the time remains online:

http://www.fair.org/extra/9304/superbowl.html

From that bastion of ultra-conservatism, Cecil Adams:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/000414.html

FAIR's record of "accuracy" is suspect and any claim that they are "fair" is absurd.

Posted by: Mr Vee at September 17, 2004 at 03:33 AM

Watching the widening cracks in MSM is almost as cool as following the moon landings, and way more important for the future. I know a lot of columnists are now licking the blogosphere's arse lately, but it really is something to behold and savor.

Posted by: geezer at September 17, 2004 at 03:39 AM

"Maureen Dowd is extremely puzzled."

In other news, Francisco Franco is still dead.

Posted by: Parker at September 17, 2004 at 03:44 AM

Appy-polly-logies for the double post.

Posted by: Dave S. at September 17, 2004 at 03:50 AM

Extreme puzzlement is what frequently follows when teen-age girl-type idiocy get smacked in the face with reality.

I can't say for sure where MoDo's head is, but I'm willing to bet that it's dark, scary, very smelly and that she could see better if her bellybutton was made of plexiglass.

Posted by: JorgXMcKie at September 17, 2004 at 03:50 AM

The Guardian infiltrator seems to think FreeRepublic violates people's First Amendment rights when they pull troll comments.

"Government shall make no law..." doesn't mean I have to make space for him on my web log.

Thank goodness.

Posted by: A Hunny at September 17, 2004 at 03:54 AM

What an idiot the professor is.

What happens when the documents are shown to be perfectly legitimate? Well, assuming we haven't entered another dimension and are still on this planet: We'll be watching the pigs fly and hell freeze over while the media types trumpet their victory over the 'pajama wearing' bloggers.

There would be NO PLACE on God's Green Earth to escape the headlines all the media would produce if those documents were shown to be valid. The only people who would not know about it would be those who are dead or in a coma.

I can't understand the concern about 'pajama clad' bloggers misleading anyone when we have one of the 'Big Media' stars acting like Pres. Nixon during Watergate. We've just been lied to, by a major US news organization's 'star/ace newsreader/reporter' in the midst of a presidential election campaign! They've been caught and all they can do is continue to insult the intelligence of whatever viewers they have left.

CBS News' reputation is in the toilet and all this journalism professor can wonder about is what will happen if the docs. prove valid?! This guy teaches journalism?

Posted by: Chris Josephson at September 17, 2004 at 03:59 AM

From Dowd's second to last paragraph "Iraq is a vision of hell, and the Republicans act as if it's a model kitchen." a model KITCHEN?????? What the h*ll is she talking about?

Posted by: Stacy at September 17, 2004 at 04:09 AM

How typically lefty of the Guardian guy.

"Hi, I'm here to spoof your private community and misrepresent who I am. Oh wait, I've been banned (for speaking The Truth (while lying about who I am)). First Amendment! Free speech! Lying liars!"

Posted by: Steve in Houston at September 17, 2004 at 04:43 AM

I don't know about you guys, but my kitchen pretty much resembles a "vision of hell" even on a good day.

Posted by: Sho at September 17, 2004 at 04:46 AM

I also like how the Guardian person tried to clothe himself in Deep Understanding of American Politics by giving himself the handle "weholdthesetruthstobeselfevident". "Jeffersonian", he called it. The idea being that he's more authentically "American" than these evil Freepers, even speaking as a Briton. Wow, how profound and thought-provoking.

Only to display typically inane misapprehension of what the First Amendment says and means, only paragraphs later. Yeah, Guardian person, you're the one gamely understanding and upholding American values, and the Freepers are the ones being freaky fascists. Got it.

Posted by: Brian Tiemann at September 17, 2004 at 05:21 AM

Yo, Treacher! Leave off the Rather blather for a bit and tell us more about the Space Unicorns, the Cloud People, and Lord Gnarl and the Carved Army. I'm sitting here in my feety flannel jammies and want a story.

Posted by: Angie Schultz at September 17, 2004 at 06:00 AM

Oh, Maureen is a lot more puzzled than that. Check out the "discussion forum" (in which no actual discussion occurs) she has going between herself and Gail Edwards: "A Discussion on Women, the Presidency, and the Election." Chock-full of howlers, i.e.:

"Howell Raines, a mentor for Gail and me, used to say that politicians like Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton succeeded because they had true believers around them who were passionate about them."

Howell Raines, MENTOR. Of what, resignation letters? Good pick, Mo!

Posted by: ilyka at September 17, 2004 at 07:03 AM

Tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-tick-DING!!!!!!!

That's what you'll likely hear soon from the 60 Minutes stopwatch.

Posted by: Attmay at September 17, 2004 at 08:33 AM

FAIR is a transparent liberal organ. Note that even though refer to Killian by his proper title of Lt. Col. they cannot bring themselves to address G Dub by his proper title of President. They won't even throw a Pres. his way. I first became aware of FAIR when a couple of my friend at UT Austin pointed it out to me. Unfortunately these friend of mine also happen to be liberal douchebags. (Nobody is perfect.) However they had already pointed me towards Indy Media and Chomsky so I knew immediately that FAIR was a group of partisan hacks. FAIR is so far left that they take the Chomsky view that Republican and Democrats are just factions of the same imperial, fascist party. No serious person should pay FAIR any mind.

Posted by: Alex White at September 17, 2004 at 01:30 PM

The "right wing" Media Research Center posts videos and transcripts of liberal howlers by the MSM.

From MoDo's column:
...the Democrats are...a preposterous, paranoid fantasy...clamoring for...[a] blood-drenched Iraq.

Posted by: Some Seppo at September 18, 2004 at 02:37 AM

Angie Schultz:

I want either a nice long fantasy novel or a 39 episode anime series.

Barring that, I want whatever Treacher is drinking. Or, uh, consuming.

Posted by: Steven H. at September 18, 2004 at 03:41 AM

Hey I work on the same block as Emerson and Jeffrey Seglin - Maybe I can explain to him the chance of the docs being revealed as legit would depend on the CBS sources producing them - maybe I can also see if he wants to bet on football because if he thinks these docs are legit I think there's a fortune to be made betting against his prognostications of the future.

Posted by: Jack Tanner at September 18, 2004 at 04:03 AM

I'm guessing Maureen Dowd's "model kitchen" is a reference to the "kitchen debate" in 1959 between Nixon, then vice-president, and Khruschev: While inspecting a model kitchen at a U.S. trade show in the USSR, they began arguing about the relative merits of capitalism and communism. Khruschev insisted that Soviet workers live as comfortably as American workers, which was clearly untrue.

Posted by: Joanne Jacobs at September 18, 2004 at 07:23 AM

"Barring that, I want whatever Treacher is drinking."

Killian's, natch!

Posted by: Jim Treacher at September 18, 2004 at 10:20 AM

Boy, if Jeffrey Seglin still believes the documents might be proven to be authentic, then he is probably telling that to his students. What a fine and quality education those kids are getting.

Posted by: Gary B. at September 18, 2004 at 11:02 PM