Tim Blair

I have a question. After the infidels have been expelled from Iraq, when Seumas' resistance pals set up their open democracy, guaranteeing religious freedom and women's rights, will they ratify the Kyoto protocol?

They are the enemy. Unlike the quietly plotting muslim population they are just stupid enough to put their head above the parapet and be seen and counted.

When the time comes, they will be working for "sirius cybernetics corporation"...

Well, as long as it's only proponents of democracy who die. That's ok, then.

Just watched the Helen's war doco - part "this is spinal tap", part family embarassment, part insight into a disturbed individual. That pope thing was beyond belief. When your niece realises you are a fraud while doing a doco you really are in trouble. Someone driven by an australian d grade nuclear holocaust movie from the 1960s is dangerous.

In the mind of today's left:

Cowards.

Warriors.

Very nice catch. Says it all.

That's it in one.

The rationale that drives Helen Caldicott's argument seems to be 'we shouldn't kill anyone, for any reason'. While it is naive, I can relate to it on some level.

The same cannot be said for Seumas Milne. This guy isn't some dumb ignoramus. As Rob said, he is the enemy. He openly supports terrorists; their methods and their cause.

And he's a columnist in a popular western newspaper.

Dear God.

[The post has been deleted by the Management. Copying of entire posts or articles without attribution is FORBIDDEN, and will result in the comment being removed and the poster being banned, as this one has been.]

You could have just provided a hyperlink to Tim Dunlop's post, Cloned Poster.

Cloned Poster,

As opposed to Tim Dunlop, the articulate embarrassment.

Tim Dunlop really wrote the above? And some of his stuff I sampled last month (when I dragged myself back to reading his blog) actually seemed sensible...guess he's back to wholesale parroting of every lefty talking point available, just like when I first found him linked through Tim Blair's a while ago. Oh well. Another promising mind wasted to the leftoid malaise.

Amusing how many of cloned posters' statements are in fact false.

Sociopathy is defined as a state where you don't really see the other person as a real person like yourself-- just as a play-actor in your drama.

When the Left wishes suffering on the Iraqi people because it will prove them right, they have crossed the line into being sociopaths.

Cloned Poster, May you please do some solid investigation of what is happening in Iraq from a source other than Green Left Weekly.

Also WMD's have been found because Sarin still counts! Where there is one there are bound to be more, you just gotta know where to look (asin the many shells and stockpiles they are mixed up in).

Yasmin zez:

"...to teach our side a lesson"

What's this "our side" nonsense, b!tch ?

*Your* side can't learn a lesson about any of what is going on short of a complete brain transplant.

Jesus. Could the Clone have posted more lies?

Wait. No, don't answer that. Of course he could.

Heres some more Guardian nonsense, reprinted in the SMH

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/01/1088488089548.html

It's so insulting and wrong on so many levels that it's a work of art.

Just to pick off the top handful of CP's statements for a light pre-lunch fisking:

that the incoming Bush administration underrated the threat of terrorism

Perhaps more accurately, that the incoming Bush administration inherited an inaccurate threat assessment from the Clinton administration.

that the president failed to adequately respond to the August 6 PDB

By doing what? That document was a summary of a couple of old newspaper articles. What could he have done in response to it that would have been (a) justifiable in light of the document and (b) effective in preventing 9/11? Nothing, that's what.

that the reasons for invasion of Iraq have shifted more times than the sands in Iraq

Intelligent people can comprehend more than one reason at a time for a given course of action. There were always any number of good reasons for invading.

that the decision to invade was made well in advance of the announcement to invade

I believe this confuses "decision" with "planning", and overlooks the fact that any military invastion is generally announced by an artillery barrage and airstrikes, not press releases.

There. Time for lunch.

Did someone mention "lunch"?

--that a CIA operative was outed by someone in the administration--

OR

the question is which administration?

Bush or Clinton, considering

convicted spies Hanssen or Ames could have spilled the beans in the 90s....and that's why she was moved around.

Alibhai-Brown: Well, you know, it's really difficult; I was thinking this morning - I mean the kind of moral trauma. I've been against the war and part of you begins to... you know, it's horrible how your mind works. You think 'Good!', you wake up thinking 'Good, there's all this mess'. And then you have to question your own self, saying what kind of a human being are you, that you want this mess? So, I think I'm terrified of what's happening. I don't think we can pull out now.

This is a quote from a live radio interview Yasmin Alibhai-Brown did (excerpted from Normblog at http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2004/04/moral_trauma.html). If she's still asking herself what kind of human being she is, I wish she'd ask me. I can certainly tell her.

According to Richard Clarke (in Against All Enemies), the Bush administration, when their term was starting, was told that the biggest thing that they will be concentrating on is Osama bin Laden. The Bush administration also said that the previous administration spent too much time on Osama bin Laden. In addition, John Ashcroft trimmed a terrorism related budget request from the FBI by 1 billion dollars.

Even Paul Bremer was frustrated that this administration "The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along until there's a major incident and then suddenly say, 'Oh my God, shouldn't we be organized to deal with this?' They've been given a window of opportunity with very little terrorism now, and they're not taking advantage of it."

On May 8, Bush announced a new Office of National Preparedness for terrorism at the Federal Emergency Management Agency. At the same time, he proposed to cut FEMA's budget by $200 million. Bush said that day that Cheney would direct a government-wide review on managing the consequences of a domestic attack, and "I will periodically chair a meeting of the National Security Council to review these efforts." Neither Cheney's review nor Bush's took place.

This doesn't sound to me like an administration that was worried about terrorism, or that "inherited an inaccurate threat assessment from the Clinton administration.".

"According to Richard Clarke..."

Well there's your problem right there.

Cordially...

Besides which, thx-1138, there's more to FEMA than terrorism. See, the acronym stands for "Federal Emergency Management Agency". They deal with other contingencies. Plus, under the new DHS, some functions are being pulled around into other agencies; the funding generally follows the function. The article doesn't go into that sort of detail.

Plus, from my professional experience, FEMA does have some redundant and/or outdated functions. Part of standing up DHS requires a shakedown of FEMA.

So pulling $200 million away from FEMA may not mean this terrorism office is not being funded. It just means FEMA's budget is being cut by $200 million....which is happening to other Federal agencies as well. There are no details as to where the budget cuts are from. Of course, it is a Washington Post article.

The Washington Post is writing out of context, and you are jumping to conclusions.

Please run along home, I'm sure your mommy is calling for you.

to The Real Jeffs

You had a pretty good argument going on there until the last line.

Well, then, thx-1138, don't end your arguments with a conclusion unrelated to the facts presented, and more along the lines of your personal opinions and bias.

Like what I did to you. Get the point?

Oh my, sorry I've come so late to the party -

Gee, don't these sound like Jimmy Carter!?

Well, I see that the odd idea that FEMA is some sort of dastardly Shadow Government Organization Bent on Controlling the Lives of All Humanity in the Case of Alien Invasion (culled from the X-Files) is still popular. Sad.

Personally, I will always remember FEMA as the agency that came down to South Florida after it was devastated by Hurricane Andrew and helped people rebuild their lives with low-interest mortgages and the like. But hey, no doubt that was part of the Sinister Plot to Corrupt Us All.

Oh by the way, "Cloned Poster" has been banned. All such clever attempts to get Tim in trouble for copyright violations will be deleted and banned. Oh, that's not what you were trying to do? Well that's what you did.

By the way, some of you have said that the removed post was one of Tim Dunlop's. If you'd like to know what "Cloned" dumped here, feel free to provide a link to Mr. Dunlop's post.

I am ashamed to admit...

Yasmin Alibhai-Brown actually admitting to shame? Perhaps there's hope for her after all.

RC Dean:

" 'that the president failed to adequately respond to the August 6 PDB'

"By doing what? That document was a summary of a couple of old newspaper articles. What could he have done in response to it that would have been (a) justifiable in light of the document and (b) effective in preventing 9/11? Nothing, that's what."

Let me humbly add: (c) that wouldn't have set the liberals off screaming bloody murder, unjustified pre-emption, etc.