June 21, 2004


If enough people turn up at Gleebooks (49 Glebe Point Rd, Glebe) tomorrow, we can bankrupt Margo:

G'day Webdiarists. No Webdiary this week - I'm travelling and chatting on radio to launch my book, "Not happy John! Defending our democracy". Here's my current itinerary, subject to change. I hope I can meet some of you at the launches and that you can tune in to an interview. The launches are all free except Gleebooks in Sydney - $7 to hear my hero Tony Fitgerald launch it. Please introduce yourself and I'll refund the money.

You’d think she’d be able to spell her hero’s name correctly. More about Margo and her national unhappiness tour in my Bulletin column later this week.

UPDATE. Comment of the week comes from Harry Heidelberg, who has contributed a chapter to Margo’s "book":

Margo is the sun and you guys are just planets or moons orbiting planets. In the end though, the overriding orbit is around the sun. There is a world of information and commentary out there but in here I see a strong focus on Margo. That says a lot. It says she is articulating views you find simply impossible to ignore. Margo reminds me of the Erasmus of Rotterdam during his "Basel years". The Erasmus was the "wandering scholar" and exceptionally cool to boot. He would look at the sectarian world before him and call it as he saw it. His clarity and strength of purpose was scary to the prejudiced and the ignorant. Why did he prosper in the Swiss city on a bend in the Rhine? Basel was a free and open city where intellectuals could find refuge. In the end it is up to you guys to either orbit the sun as you do now, or engage properly and create your own virtual Basel. A good starting point would be to read Margo's latest book, "Not Happy John". It's published on Monday 21 June. Together, we can take back Australia.

Margo reminds him of the Erasmus of Rotterdam during his "Basel years"? Reader Donna V. replies:

Margo reminds me a lot of Crazy Aunt Mabel of Cedar Rapids during her menopause years.

Posted by Tim Blair at June 21, 2004 03:19 PM

Tony Fitzmargo or Margo Fitztony?

Posted by: Craig G at June 21, 2004 at 03:36 PM

She wrote a whole book?

She can't cobble a sensible paragraph together.

Posted by: magro at June 21, 2004 at 04:34 PM

Proof that if you get 1000^1000 monkeys and type away for 1000^1000 years you will get something smarter than your average lefy collumist because even random junk smeared with feces is more informative then Magot - I mean Margo

Posted by: JBB at June 21, 2004 at 05:20 PM

Tell me how Margo can take time off to write a book, can produce web-diaries where she writes nothing at all, her employer advertises her book and her publicity tour on its website during a week when she wont even be working!

If I was a shareholder at Fairfax, I would be mightly pissed off indeed.

Posted by: nic at June 21, 2004 at 06:05 PM

Stop being ridiculous!

Posted by: Harry Heidelberg at June 21, 2004 at 07:00 PM

[Comment that has already been posted to a previous thread removed and -- as we can see where this was going to lead -- the commenter has been banned. The Management.]

Posted by: Harry Heidelberg at June 21, 2004 at 07:08 PM

If Margo is the "sun' and we revolve around 'it' that would leave you in 'uranus'

Posted by: nic at June 21, 2004 at 07:12 PM

A black hole, no information can escape it.

Posted by: JBB at June 21, 2004 at 08:20 PM

Incredible, isn't it?

In the run up to the US and Australian elections, every leftie in creation's trying to make a buck from their pet anticonservative whinge. From Michael Moore to The Day after Tomorrow, from Margo's 'Not Happy' crap (when was she ever happy??) to the Supersize Me anticorporate BS, the LLLs are coming out of the woodwork trying to sell us something. And then they have the nerve to call us capitalists.

Posted by: Byron_the_Aussie at June 21, 2004 at 10:40 PM

Doesn't this really tend to prove my claim that "Margo Kingston," like "Maureen Dowd," are not real people but are practical jokes inflicted on the reading public by newspaper editors?

Posted by: Alex Bensky at June 22, 2004 at 12:58 AM

For a Texas version of the event you can meet Molly Ivins at this generic honky tonk anytime and anywhere around the Austin area. Usually at the bar. You can't miss her .

Posted by: BC at June 22, 2004 at 02:03 AM

Why is Harry Heidelberg taken down but someone like "JBB" allowed to remain? If this Blog had any standards, it would not take down legitimate commentary while allowing mention of faeces (the correct ENGLISH spelling) and referring to Margo as Magot as "JBB" does. In one sense it is all very juvenilie and ha ha ha but in most senses all this Margo talk reflects badly on everyone who participates. Attack her ideas, not her as a person. Whatever she is doing it is working because of the daily diatribe against her. A lot of people need to grow up.

Posted by: mats nilsson at June 22, 2004 at 06:09 AM

..attack her ideas, not her as a person...

You couldn't be more wrong, Mats.

It's no coincidence that Margo, Germaine, Phatty and so many on the Left who torment us are physically unappealing. They deal with their self-hate by projecting it onto others; in particular, their fellow countrymen and the culture that's given them so much. If you'd had much dealings with the Left you'd know that it's not only their politics that are screwed up; it's often their relationships with family, friends, and work colleagues. We should not be self-censoring ourselves from personal attack on the Margos of this world; we should be redoubling our efforts towards that purpose. If they can be driven- by our contempt- to reassess their failures as human beings, they may be retrievable, personally and then politically. Would you want some young female Leftist of your acquaintance to spend a long sad embittered unreconsidered life, like Germaine? Have some concern for others, why don't you.

Posted by: Byron_the_Aussie at June 22, 2004 at 08:35 AM


Please! Lefties Physically Unappealing? What about the sardonically handsome Robert Manne? The svelte Michael Moore? The eroticly rousing Malcolm Fraser (the Memphis Belle's delight)? I could go on.

Posted by: Sue at June 22, 2004 at 09:08 AM

I can't believe it, I had honestly thought the ridiculous Harry H comment was SATIRE when I first read it. I thought it was hilarious, too. But it was sincere?

Posted by: Sortelli at June 22, 2004 at 09:59 AM

If the Harry H persona was real, and you banned him, you are a very stupid woman, Andrea.

Let me explain something to you: on a blog, when you write about a subject in the media and that subject actually comes to your site, that is a good thing. People can pillory him if they like, or whatever, but it's a pretty rare opportunity.

I don't like your tendency to ban people, Andrea, because I don't trust your criteria.

I know that Tim relies on you for the webspace, and that you're very nice for giving it to him; But if you're going to give it to him, do him the courtesy of not banning his subjects on Comments.

Tim, I think you need to have a word with Andrea on this one.

All the above is contingent on Harry H's being the real deal.

Posted by: poed at June 22, 2004 at 10:46 AM

Maybe I'm wrong...but is Julia Gillard and Bob Brown really launching the book?

Posted by: bad templar at June 22, 2004 at 01:57 PM

Well, I am flattered that I made the front page of Tim's blog:-)

In one sense it is all very juvenilie and ha ha ha

Ha ha ha, indeed. Matts unwittingly reveals what really disturbs lefties and what must drive them batshit when they visit this blog - ridicule.

They can serenely ignore serious arguments and being called commies or appeasers or thug-lovers rolls right off their backs. But laughing at them? That pisses 'em off.

I intend to keep laughing. I don't know how the hell anybody with a fragment of brain tissue can possibly take either Margo or her disciple Harry Heidelberg seriously.

Posted by: Donna V. at June 22, 2004 at 03:19 PM

Ohhh..."The" Erasmus of Rotterdam! As opposed to all the other famous Erasmuses of Rotterdam? Thanks for the clarification, Harry.

Posted by: timks at June 22, 2004 at 03:59 PM

And I've checked with Harry and he is the real deal. Of course Harry would be able to speak for himself had he not been banned.

Posted by: mats nilsson at June 22, 2004 at 05:26 PM

Margot reminds HH of Geert Geertsen? Sure, his mother's name was Margaret, but other than that, Margo and EoR have about as much in common as me and that bastard Jiang Zemin (15 generals! I'll give him 15 generals...).

Let's see how they shape up.

Erasmus was an independent scholar. Margo is a dependent journalist.

Erasmus mastered Latin late in life. Margo is still yet to master English, her native tongue.

Erasmus was in sympathy with the main points in the Lutheran criticism of the Church. Margo is in sympathy with indymedia criticisms of capitalism.

Erasmus believed the chief evil of the day was formalism, a respect for traditions without consideration for the true teaching of Christ. Margo believes the chief evil of the day is people who don't see the world in her way.

Erasmus displayed his skill in semantics. Margo displayed her skills in non-flushing of the toilet.

Erasmus has ten columns of the catalogue of the British Library taken up with the bare enumeration of his works and their subsequent reprints. Margot would be lucky to have 1% of one column even if you included all her Web Diary rants.

Yes, HH, I can see your point. They're almost identical.

Posted by: Wen Jiabao at June 22, 2004 at 07:16 PM

Liz Wise. Now there's a name that's been absent from the NCP for a few years now. Just the other day Hu Jintao said to me, "Where the hell did Liz Wise get to?" I shrugged my shoulders and smiled, but later in my room - as a bevvy of 16-year-old gymnasts performed routines sans leotards - I wondered (Mao, talk about spineless...). Had the years after Tiananmen been as hard for her as the rest of us? Or had she escaped across the border to the cultural desert of Hong Kong? And so I checked around.

It turns out she never met Deng Xiaoping. Ever.

Liz, if your out there reading, give me a ring. Just use the number Jiang Zemin gave you. I'm in charge now (suck on that Water Boy), so if you just ask for the zhuxi (sounds like a slurred "juicy") you'll get through.

Hey, here's to the old times.

Posted by: Wen Jiabao at June 22, 2004 at 07:26 PM

Matts Nilsson: my reasons for taking the comment down are in the removed post -- and as you can see Tim helpfully added the earlier comment to his post so you can read it. I hope you are enlightened. And I banned Heidelberg's IP because spam is not allowed in the comments. Identical comments to several threads are spam. If Heidelberg/Margo want to advertise on Tim's blog, they can bloody well pay for it.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at June 22, 2004 at 08:46 PM

Erasmus of Rotterdam?

Is that the same Erasmus of Rotterdam that used to bowl off spin in the Cootamundra 2nd XI?

Couldn't hold his piss, and never cleaned his boots either.

Posted by: Pedro the Ignorant at June 23, 2004 at 12:11 AM

Sure there's a world of information out there, but how much of it is so much fun to point at and laugh?

Posted by: richard mcenroe at June 23, 2004 at 01:19 AM