June 17, 2004

IT WAS HIS FAMILY'S HELICOPTER

John "Bonne" Kerry meets Jon Bon Jovi:

This week the rock star Jon Bon Jovi hosted a fundraiser for Mr Kerry at his New Jersey home at which 300 guests raised more than $1 million (£540,000) for the Kerry campaign. Mr Kerry, underlining the importance and financial muscle of the celebrity endorsement, flew in by helicopter for the event.

Hey, maybe that chopper could help him attend Senate hearings. Just an idea. (Kerryís non-attendance excuse is a blinder: ''I'm running to provide responsible leadership, and I intend to continue to do that.") Back at the Bon Jovi party, Jon B. explains all those accusations of leftoid non-patriotism we keep hearing about:

"Iíve had people drive by my home and shout things out," he said. "And I think that they question my patriotism because I decided to stand up and have a voice. And I stood up to have a voice because I think thatís the most American thing that you can do."

Which is exactly what those loud drivers were doing. Stand up and let Jon Bon Jovi hear your voice, motorists of New Jersey! Itís the most American thing you can do!

Posted by Tim Blair at June 17, 2004 02:23 AM
Comments

"Iíve had people drive by my home and shout things out,"

Something's fishy about that.

I mean, it's one thing if he lives in a little ranch house by the road in suburbia, like yours truly, but in Heinz-Kerry's case, how exaclty long is the driveway from the road to his palatial estate ? (I am assuming the shouters were not allowed through the gate.)

Perhaps they used a bullhorn ?

Posted by: Carl in N.H. at June 17, 2004 at 02:50 AM

Orwell would be proud, the left has actually mastered doublethink.

Free Speech is an absolute good. (Best thing you can do!)
Free Speech against what I believe is bad.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at June 17, 2004 at 02:51 AM

if a washed up, no talent ass clown like bon jovi endorsed me as president, i would withdraw from the race, ashamed and embarrassed.

Posted by: Oktober at June 17, 2004 at 03:01 AM

hmm, then i wonder what bigwig drove by my house the other night if kerry went-a-choppering...maybe it was the governor.

carl, it's bon jovi who's saying people shout at his house. it's set back a bit from the road, but a good bellower could perhaps be heard at the front door, but certainly not understood. if i remember i'll drive by and take a photo. fwiw, since sept 11th he's had the front of the house draped in a big american flag, which always reminds the missus and me of the von trapp residence...

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at June 17, 2004 at 03:02 AM

Maybe they could throw some shit. Maybe ding up his car with some rocks or something. I hear that's the second most American thing you can do.

Posted by: Amos at June 17, 2004 at 03:05 AM

actually, while i'm not a big fan of his music, bon jovi is a pretty decent guy; he just has crap tatste in politicians.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at June 17, 2004 at 03:13 AM

I'll bet his window looks down right on the crowded street so he hears every word.

Who's he kidding? Somebody yelling toward his house from the street is probably 200 yards away beyond the the tennis courts and the courtyard.

Posted by: John Rogers at June 17, 2004 at 03:17 AM

I would say that unjustifiable martyrdom is the most *Irish* thing you could do, but that would piss off my grandpa, so I won't.

Posted by: Emily at June 17, 2004 at 03:33 AM

Mr. Bingley:
it's set back a bit from the road, but a good bellower could perhaps be heard at the front door, but certainly not understood.

So next time you do it, shout louder or use a bullhorn. Geeze, I thought I taught you well. If you still had a rear wheel drive car, I'd say leave the studs on and lawn romp, but I don't think the missus would like it if I loaned you the BMW for landscaping use......ah, to be 17 again...

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2004 at 03:57 AM

I demand an immediate apology from Jon Bon Jovi for his unjustified and deeply offensive act of recording and distributing the entire Bon Jovi discography. I've had people drive by my house blasting "Livin' on a Prayer" on their car stereos, and I think that they question my patriotism because I listen to musicians who can use more than three chords in one song.

Posted by: Mike at June 17, 2004 at 03:59 AM

crusader,
i am not a mere 'good' bellower but, in fact, am almost joshua-like in the decibel levels that i am able to achieve, if so inspired.

and, if i may be so bold, may i remind you that when you were 17 the BigWheel you were still driving was, in fact, front wheel drive.

i remain your humble servant, sir.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at June 17, 2004 at 04:10 AM

Hey, I'm a New Jersey driver! Err, where does he live? I want to say Sayreville...

Posted by: Dash at June 17, 2004 at 04:25 AM

and, if i may be so bold, may i remind you that when you were 17 the BigWheel you were still driving was, in fact, front wheel drive.

Uh...no. Plenty of lawn remains were garden hosed off of a certain Trooper and Eagle, not to mention all the neutral drops done in a certain wagon that you inherited, hehe.

And how many bones didst thou break on bikes and skateboards on the way down the driveway? Never a scratch for me atop my BigWheel.....8^P

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2004 at 04:34 AM

1) Bon Jovi produced a lot of excellent songs, musical anarchist postings to this thread notwithstanding.

2) I've got a lot of cognitive dissonance to work through, trying to reconcile one of my all-time favorite music groups' support for a moron like Kerry with my own beliefs.

3) I'd at least respect Kerry a little more if he'd just own up to the fact that he's a hypocritical, elitist snot instead of trying to pretend he's a bunch of things he's not. As it is, it's win-win for American politics. Either Bush wins and we get 4 years of decent (but not stellar) leadership, or Kerry wins and within 4 years the Democratic party self-destructs. 'Sall good.

Posted by: Dan at June 17, 2004 at 04:38 AM

Never a scratch for me atop my BigWheel.....

Just people and small furry animals in your path, diving for cover, praying to all the gods to survive your passing and avoid their own.

ah, to be 17 again...

Something's changed? ALERT THE MEDIA !

Mr. Bingley was kind enough to point out Bon Jovi's house, during our last visit, but I was not allowed to shout, honk or gesture. How very un-Jersey-like.

Posted by: tree hugging sister at June 17, 2004 at 04:44 AM

Mr. Bingley was kind enough to point out Bon Jovi's house, during our last visit, but I was not allowed to shout, honk or gesture. How very un-Jersey-like.

How un-Mr. Bingley-like!

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2004 at 04:56 AM

Just people and small furry animals in your path, diving for cover, praying to all the gods to survive your passing and avoid their own.

Hey I learned from the best, and drove just like you told me to. How many times was the Javelin in the body shop?

PS- The Grinch is coming Friday!

Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2004 at 05:00 AM

I know where Bon Jovi lives. It's up the road a bit from my humble digs and just wouth of the noble and praiseworthy Mr. Bingley gets lit.

The driveway isn't so long and Jersey drivers are loud as it is, so rocker-with-the-cute-bob can probably hear them. Then again he lives on a well-trafficked river that's full of drunken Republicans. They get loud around here, too.

Wanamassa signing off...

Posted by: Gary at June 17, 2004 at 05:11 AM

How un-Mr. Bingley-like!

when's the last time you visited? i have become most sweet and adorable in my old age.

...all the neutral drops done in a certain wagon that you inherited...

i was going to ask you about some of those stains, but now i really, really don't want to know.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at June 17, 2004 at 05:21 AM

Thanks for the correction Mr. Bingley.

My reading comprehension suffered due to the distraction from the all people shouting out in the street.

Posted by: Carl in N.H. at June 17, 2004 at 05:27 AM

when's the last time you visited? i have become most sweet and adorable in my old age.

So I read in USA Today.....

i was going to ask you about some of those stains, but now i really, really don't want to know.

Aw, that was just the passengers reactions to my driving skills.......


Posted by: Crusader at June 17, 2004 at 05:27 AM

Actually, I thought the preferred American inter-car communication technique (after the cell phone) is non-verbal, AKA the Single Finger Salute. Shouting from a car is ineffective, especially with the doppler effect.

Perhaps Bon Jovi has ringing in his ears from Kerry's drivel, and thinks he hears people shouting from the road?

Posted by: The Real JeffS at June 17, 2004 at 05:34 AM

no problem carl. actually, there were lots of people shouting in the street in 2000, when bon jovi held a fund raiser for gorezilla and the secret service shut down the parkway for the idjit...

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at June 17, 2004 at 05:34 AM


"The only thing I like more than my wife is my money" - Jon Bon Jovi.

If you're wondering why he's a Kerry-man, there ya go. Of course, with Kerry, it's _her_ money, but close enough.

Posted by: Dave S. at June 17, 2004 at 05:36 AM

actually, those are also the prefered intra car methods, as well jeffs.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at June 17, 2004 at 05:37 AM

I may be a bit out of the loop here, nor being a car owner myself, but isn't it a bit ill-advised to stand up while driving?

Completely agree with the suggestion to give Jon an earful though. :)

Posted by: PW at June 17, 2004 at 05:38 AM

Mr Bon Jovi owns the Philadelphia Soul an indoor, crap football team and at the start of the season the TV coverage was fawning all over him as a hands on owner, and with him in his private box was......AL GORE!! I knew then that this boy just wasn't right.

Posted by: hen at June 17, 2004 at 06:08 AM

Just exercising his freedom of speech to shout down freedom of speech. Regards

Posted by: EddieP at June 17, 2004 at 06:24 AM

Hahaha, are you trying to equate speaking out on a political issue to insulting the man who spoke out?
Notice that he wasn't calling for the people who abused him to be stopped, he's highlighting the fact that there's something wrong with a democratic country where it's normal and socially acceptable to villify someone you disagree with rather than debate their ideas.
I and others have been raised to respect an America where a difference of opinion is seen as one of its strengths, not something to be stamped out.
America is so polarised it's scary.

Posted by: t at June 17, 2004 at 07:41 PM

"America is so polarised it's scary."

If only someone would make us all think alike.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at June 17, 2004 at 08:11 PM


"If only someone would make us all think alike"

Andrea,
What do you call the state school system? They are already trying. It's confusing how this reconciles with notions of "diversity"...

Posted by: Rob Read at June 17, 2004 at 10:13 PM

Yeah, because my overiding dream is to create a state filled with people who all think the same...

What disturbs me is that a country like america, built on values of mutual respect and discussion of ideas has sunk to the point where the majority of participants in the political process do little more hurl insults at each other such "naiive liberal" and "greedy conservative", "love it or leave it" etc.

It is not a healthy democracy; attack the idea and not the man.

Posted by: t at June 17, 2004 at 11:20 PM

Then stop doing it, "t".

Posted by: Robert Crawford at June 18, 2004 at 12:02 AM

t, are you pulling the same stunt here as on the thread about fat kids? Trying to equalize everyone?

On the other thread, it's a matter of regulating TV advertising because you think people are over advertised? The answer there is to turn the TV off (or slip in a movie).

Here, suddenly, people shouldn't have an opinion. Or at least, they shouldn't express an opinion. Granted, folks shouting out of their cars at Bon Jovi is rude, but so what? That's is not proof that everyone is polarized. Politicians hurling insults at each other might be rudeness, but hardly polarization or the inability to communicate; I recall that President Truman publically called McCarthy a drunk. That was certainly blunt but true.

You are offering an opposing opinion just to be contrary. You are ignoring other ideas because only yours are right.

Hmmmmmm......what sort of behavior does that sound like?

Posted by: The Real JeffS at June 18, 2004 at 12:54 AM

no, that's not a healthy thing t. look at all the restrictions on speech at universities. disgusting.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at June 18, 2004 at 12:56 AM

actually, let me clarify: attaking the person as opposed to the idea is not good or healthy; however, the us remains the healthiest, most robust, longest-lived republic in the world.

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at June 18, 2004 at 12:59 AM

Gee another Democrat supporting musician...how amazingly original. As if supporting being a musician and supporting the Democrats is a brave thing to do.

Give me a break JBJ. Yet another example of why its a bad idea to interview musicians on anything other than music. STFU and stop making an arse of yourself.

Posted by: Andrew Ian Dodge at June 18, 2004 at 01:09 AM

although i may not agree with Mr. Kerry's politics and his tendancy to use President Bush's shortcomings to further his own campaign, i can not believe the ignorance of those who support Mr. Bush. Why you all seem to feel the need to desicrate and belittle those who support Mr. Kerry, or any candidate not of your liking for matter, is totally beyond my comprehension. The show of ignorance in slamming Mr. Bon Jovi for his political decisions is one of the most "un-American" acts I have ever witnessed.

It is his right to stand up for what he believes in, just as it is yours to STAND UP FOR YOUR CANDIDATE, which should be able to be done without having to be belligerent and rude to those who chose to believe differently than you.

And as for Mr. Bon Jovi being a has-been, when you have accomplished as much as he has, earned as much as he has, used your influence to help children and those in need as he has, and learned to support your beliefs in as civil a manner as he has, then get back to me. Maybe then I will be less likely to take your opinion as ignorant fodder.

The comments I have seen in these news sections by President Bush supporters has almost made me ashamed of my country. It is the people with Mr. Bon Jovi's sense of faith, loyalty, committment that keep me believing that not all Americans are self-serving jerks.

Posted by: cyndi at June 20, 2004 at 07:22 AM

Oh god, a Bon Jovi fan weighs in. Hon, get back under the hair dryer; your Big Hair perm is coming undone. (PS: how do you type with those two-and-a-half-inch nails that have the Sistine Chapel painted on them?)

I'm a cowboy... a steel horse I ride...

Posted by: Andrea Harris at June 21, 2004 at 01:46 AM