April 20, 2004

ENDLESS HATRED

As Spain pulls its troops out of Iraq, the body of a Spanish policeman killed when Islamic terrorists blew themselves up has been pulled from its grave and set on fire:

The coffin and body of special agent Francisco Javier Torronteras were pulled from the tomb in Madrid Sur cemetery in Carabanchel and pushed 1,000 yards in a wheelbarrow before being doused with petrol and set alight.

The body was found with a pick driven into its head and a spade dug into its chest.

The interior ministry said the act of desecration could have been part of "an Islamic rite of revenge".

It shouldnít be difficult to find the culprits. Just scope out the burns wards. These idiots donít have particularly advanced fire skills.

Posted by Tim Blair at April 20, 2004 04:53 PM
Comments

Unbelievable....can anyone doubt that storm clouds are gathering?

Posted by: PJ at April 20, 2004 at 04:56 PM

"Although no motive was immediately apparent,...."

They must be pretty dumb police officers then.

Posted by: Mike Hunt at April 20, 2004 at 05:01 PM

Tim, Please try not to post pictures like the fire skills one when I'm drinking coffee. I laughed so much I sprayerd a pile of legal documents and nearly the keyboard!

Posted by: Sue at April 20, 2004 at 05:08 PM


That appeasement just didn't come fast enough! If only the Spainards had pulled out within 72 hours like they said, then I'm sure these Islamists would have treated this man's grave with respect.

Posted by: Andrew at April 20, 2004 at 05:13 PM

Photoshop is priceless.

Posted by: LD at April 20, 2004 at 05:18 PM

Actually, it's $649 on Adobe's website.

Posted by: david at April 20, 2004 at 05:29 PM

Did they learn these skills from their Celtic Cousins?

Posted by: Bran at April 20, 2004 at 05:45 PM

These are the the kind of f...ing animals we are dealing with and we should treat them accordingly. My sympathies to the policeman's family .

Posted by: chileau at April 20, 2004 at 05:57 PM

Interesting to see what the media reaction to this will be. Lately I've noticed alot more airtime given to allegations, for example, of Marine atrocities in Fallujah, than to reports of insurgents using kids as human sheilds. Imagine the reaction if a western nation buried dead terrorists in pigskin: the Indigno-meter would go off the scale. Yet abuses such as this one seem to elicit "root causes" apologia from many western media outlets. Witness Yassin and Ratissi: freedom fighters.

Posted by: fidens at April 20, 2004 at 05:57 PM

mutilation of bodies is one of the signs of Qiyamat (end times) in the Quran. Could be another sign of the 'messianic whirlpool' discussed at Jihad Watch

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/001329.php

Posted by: Julian at April 20, 2004 at 05:59 PM

I have never been accused of taking things too seriously, but something like that removes any ability I may have to make pithy comments, as i am too filled with revulsion and anger.

The ritual burying of the dead has held an important place in human civilisation since before it could even be referred to as 'civilisation'. Respect for the dead holds a very strong place in our minds, which is why animals like that commit such atrocities.

I hope the Spanish police catch the perpetrators, and give them an absolute hiding, before locking them away for a very long time. There is almost no punishment that would be excessive for anyone willing to do such things.

Posted by: attla at April 20, 2004 at 06:07 PM

Unbelievably disgusting.

Posted by: CCD at April 20, 2004 at 06:13 PM

There's some things you have to read a few times to make sure you're not misreading or misinterpreting them. This was one of them.

If you deny we at war when you hear of such things, then you are a useless impediment. Get out of my way. I think dark things when I read stories like this.

Posted by: David Gillies at April 20, 2004 at 06:14 PM

It won't stop.

Posted by: miklos rosza at April 20, 2004 at 07:54 PM

Is western civilization doomed? Sometimes I wonder.

Probably time to ratchet things up a bit. A few well-placed MOABs ought to make things a bit more clear.

I'm starting to think that Rome's policy of attacking any country which harmed a citizen of Rome was a fairly good way of conducting foreign policy.

Posted by: david at April 20, 2004 at 08:03 PM

Fucking Scum!

Posted by: Gilly at April 20, 2004 at 08:06 PM

Nice fire picture, but where are all the lefties griping about blowback?

Posted by: William Sjostrom at April 20, 2004 at 08:16 PM

You know, I'm just guessing that maybe "peace love and understanding" are not high on the Islamofascistiravingloon scale of things. But what do I know, I'm just a Bloodthirsty Warmongress™.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at April 20, 2004 at 08:39 PM

I think its time for patriotic Spaniards to start a campaign of porking Muslim graveyards in Spain. Now finally a use for ole' pork meat.

Posted by: Andrew Ian Dodge at April 20, 2004 at 08:53 PM

ooh, I didn't realise these actions were a traditional Islamic rite of revenge . . . that makes it alright then. After all I wouldn't want to pass value judgements on Islamic culture - you know its a religion of peace, don't you?

Posted by: Emily at April 20, 2004 at 09:03 PM

the MOAB is ready to go!

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at April 20, 2004 at 10:02 PM

For the love of God...! Forget the Thermobaric MOAB'S..big, but not big enough. Time is approaching for Thermonuclear fire me thinks.

Posted by: Dog at April 21, 2004 at 12:49 AM

So what? What are the Spanish going to do about it? When you cower to bullies you only get bullied some more and Spain is now officially the world's bitch...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 21, 2004 at 01:13 AM

Are there any depths to which these arseholes will not sink?

Here is the end result of capitulating to terror tactics.

Read the lesson well, appeasers and cowards.

Posted by: Pedro the Ignorant at April 21, 2004 at 01:34 AM

I hope the media will be so 'mellow' when it comes time to discuss the 'traditional' Anglo-Saxon rite of revenge. It may not be a long held tradition (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) but a tradition none the less.

Posted by: Steve B at April 21, 2004 at 02:00 AM

it's actually the traditional anglo-saxon rite of 'cleansing by fire'...

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at April 21, 2004 at 02:15 AM

I don't know about the rest of you, but that made me cry. And it made me even more determined that no little Islamofascist bastards will be digging up graves in my country.

Posted by: Rebecca at April 21, 2004 at 02:57 AM

I guess just killing infidels is no longer enough. These people truly are nuts.

Posted by: Randal Robinson at April 21, 2004 at 03:01 AM

Things may have changed, but the last time we were in Spain NOBODY messed with the cops. I suspect that the 'alleged' perps will be slid under the door to a police station 'anonymously.'

Posted by: rabidfox at April 21, 2004 at 05:25 AM

Fidens: Well, of course.

Don't make the mistake of thinking the chattering classes are using some sort of traditional moral judgement like sane people.

Bloody postmodernism, the lot of it. I blame Foucault. In a nutshell: "Power = oppression (= wrong)". Add in some post-colonialist neo-Marxist tripe that absolves the once-oppressed of ever being oppressors even when they get power, and the whole thing is sparkling clear.

The Oppressed Victim Class (Arabs, Muslims, etc.) can do no wrong. The Oppressor Class (Europeans, Honkies, Christians, etc.) can do no right except by complete surrender and attendant destruction.

Wrong, but sparkling clear.

Posted by: Sigivald at April 21, 2004 at 05:57 AM

Spains new Interior Minister Joe Alonso, didn't mention the body of this Spanish hero being strewn out on the street and burned, during the memorial service, where Francisco Javier Torronteras was awarded a posthumous medal of valor.

I beleive you have seem your answer as to the official Spanish position. It is Ankle grabbin.

Posted by: Papertiger at April 21, 2004 at 08:54 AM

Am I missing andjam's snarky comment here, or has Andrea already taken it down?

Posted by: JorgXMcKie at April 21, 2004 at 09:25 AM

Disgusting and pathetic. My sympathies to the family for this disrespect of the dead.

Meanwhile, on some TV channel in Spain:

Left WIng Liberal Appeaser: Gee, why would we think Islamic fanatics did this? We appeased them! We appeased them! Shall we offer our daughters as interim virgins during their wait to enter Paradise? That might calm these guys down in the meantime......

Posted by: JeffS at April 21, 2004 at 10:19 AM

Wondering what the soon-to-be-withdrawn Spanish military are making of all this.

Posted by: ilibcc at April 21, 2004 at 11:34 AM

Jorg: I haven't removed any comments from this post.

Posted by: Andrea Harris at April 21, 2004 at 02:31 PM

Sigivald I agree with you completely. At the core of every leftist position is the "Power" relationship. Another poster here asked if Western Civilization was doomed? Frankly, I'm not particularly optimistic. The chattering classes, the acadamy, and over half of the political entities are all singing from the same hymnal. All civilizations decayed from within. The self-loathing, and even more importantly, the lack of belief that there is anything to defend is most distressing.

And the wrong headed inability to use our power to defend our way of life gives testimony to our impotence and vulnerability. For crying out loud, we have been held hostage by a small fanatical subclass of a broad society, that collectively couldn't mount the wherewithal or skill to defeat the tiny state of Israel in five wars!

The day after 9/11 they were all shitting bricks because if the shoe was on the other foot they sure knew what they would do and they were a teeny bit worried we might take a page from their book. It didn't take them long to know that nothing had really changed. Then, as now, the biggest fear the West has, according to its media, is "inflaming the Arab Street". They know we have overwhelming force, but that is no guarantee of victory. Just ask Montezuma.

Posted by: JohnPV at April 21, 2004 at 04:44 PM

The irony is that we now have Western lefties acting as apologists for the most ultra-far-right, fascist, racist movement since Nazism, just because these particular fascists/racists are brown-skinned and from a different culture. Idiots!

At least here in France we are starting to get some sense about all this. Banning headscarves in public schools is a sensible first step in dealing with far-right religious fascists who do not belong in western liberal democracies.

Jean-Luc Bidet

Posted by: jean-luc bidet at April 21, 2004 at 05:23 PM

Far right? Facists? Dude let me educate you.
First the Facists are in favor of total government control of every facet of their subjects lives. It was called the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany before it was named Nazi party for short.

If you are looking for something right of conservative then you are looking for Libertarian. Think of no government at all as the extreem side of the right wing.

Posted by: Papertiger at April 21, 2004 at 09:10 PM

Papertiger, let me educate you dude. Fascism, the word, is Italian and was Mussoliniís party. Nazi is derived from the German pronunciation of the word "National" which sounds like Natzinall. Fascism is technically considered "right wing" because private ownership of property is allowed, which is its distinction from Communist totalitarianism. Both Hitler and Mussolini used the threat of Communism in their quest for political power. In practice, there is almost no difference between extreme left wing, right wing political practices in terms of centralized and repressive control of their populations. You know the old saying that capitalism is an example of man's inhumanity to man and communism is the other way around. There is a philosophical distinction in that Fascism used the idea of racial/ethnic superiority and the manifest destiny inherent in that to justify their military/political aggressiveness. The Islamoterrorists divide the world into true believers, Muslims, and non-believers, infidels. The infidels are to be killed or converted. Couple this with how they run their economies, and a picture of fascism emerges.

I'm not sure that I agree with Libertarianism being the far end of conservative thought any more than I think nihilism is the far end of liberal thought. Some aspects of mainstream conservative/liberal beliefs are contained there but it doesn't mean liberal or conservative thought inevitably leads to either libertarianism or nihilism.

Posted by: JohnPV at April 22, 2004 at 01:21 AM

Nothing these animals do surprises me at all.
The general public will soon reach their limit!

Posted by: Brian. at April 23, 2004 at 03:27 AM