March 24, 2004

MEMORIES ... MISTY, BLOOD-SOAKED MEMORIES

For the benefit of all who never met him, the BBC presents Sheikh Yassin: Life in pictures:

1: Hamas spiritual leader Sheikh Yassin, assassinated by Israel, was an inspiration to disillusioned young Palestinians and a hate figure for Israel. Hamas is one of the largest and most militant Palestinian groups fighting Israeli occupation.

No kidding.

2: He devoted his early life to Islamic scholarship and was considered by supporters primarily as a religious figure.

Honour Allah, and attach the detonator here, next to the primary Semtex load!

3: He was welcomed by Yasser Arafat when he was released from prison in 1997, in exchange for two Israeli agents held by Jordan after a botched mission to kill a Hamas member.

The Israelis seem to have fixed that “botching” problem.

4: He became an increasingly powerful figure, and Hamas attacks, in which scores of Israelis have been killed, posed a major obstacle to peace negotiations.

You really think so?

5: Sheikh Yassin opposed the Oslo peace process and refused to recognise the state of Israel, advocating resistance rather than talks.

Surprise me.

6: Scores of Palestinians were inspired by his message to give up their lives, and became suicide bombers.

Scores more Israelis died. Their level of inspiration isn’t recorded.

7: Sheikh Yassin said all suicide bombings - the latest of which came eight days ago in Ashdod - were a "response to Israeli crimes".

Such as “being Israeli”.

8: His hatred of the United States was also well known.

You don’t say.

9: Hamas support was boosted by its charitable activities and support for Palestinians suffering economic hardship.

Well, someone’s got to help out when the breadwinner is spread all over a bus somewhere.

(Via LGF)

Posted by Tim Blair at March 24, 2004 03:48 AM
Comments

I don't understand why jihadis are so upset over this man's death. Shouldn't they be thankful to Israel for martyring one of Hamas' most staunch martyrdom advocates?

I've never understood the transparent hypocrisy of 'spiritual' leaders. They advocate martyrdom for almost anyone, yet almost never volunteer to go themselves. If martyrdom is so great, why do they avoid it? When will people realize that the jig is up?

Posted by: SRD at March 24, 2004 at 04:03 AM

Bah......makes me so sick.....

After that whole list of obvious support Yassin gave to suicide bombers and western hating Jihadists, the BBC and such still believe this was a horrible atrocity committed against the poor Palestinians. Has everyone lost their minds over there?

Osama and Yassin are ONE AND THE SAME. You want to kill Osama than you better not have a problem with Israel targeting people like Yassin.

Posted by: Tman at March 24, 2004 at 04:12 AM

Interesting article in the Irish Times today where Michael Jansen (who's a woman) has a Kerry moment where she describes Yassin as "both a moderate and an extremist."
Hopefully it was only the extremist Yassin the Israelis targeted.

Posted by: Edmund Burke at March 24, 2004 at 05:13 AM

The BBC is the Al Jazeera of Jihadistan.

And they are, naturally, a much bigger fan of Yassin than the Iraqis (at least the blogging one, check healing iraq and others for example).

Posted by: Wingy at March 24, 2004 at 05:22 AM

BEST LINE YET about the killing that piece of filth - from Jeff at Alphecca.com:

Sometimes you just have to get out the "pooper-scooper" and cleanup the crap.
Posted by: Ken Summers at March 24, 2004 at 06:02 AM

Well, crap. That should have been "the killing of that piece of filth"

Posted by: Ken Summers at March 24, 2004 at 06:03 AM

BTW, I am getting dangerously close to printing up a bumper sticker that says "Save Palestinian children - kill their parents"

Posted by: Ken Summers at March 24, 2004 at 06:05 AM

Don't mind me, I've just never posted three four consecutive comments before.

Posted by: Ken Summers at March 24, 2004 at 06:06 AM

Ken

great bumper sticker.

Most of the world wide commentary on the military action against the Hamas leader misses analyzing a real issue.

Sharon and company, no matter what you think of them, are not plain old stupid. They knew what the reaction would be from"world leaders" and Hamas supporters. They knew that there will be a number of terror attacks on Israel and elsewhere against Israeli and probably American targets. Possibly even an attack against a "pro-Palestinian" european country to provoke a backlash against Israel. All of this was known and they still proceded with their mission. The real discussion is to discover the stategy of this event from Sharon's point of view.

Posted by: Ted at March 24, 2004 at 06:24 AM

I'm really sorry but they forced me to pay for this channel! I feel like a slave worker making V1s.

Posted by: Rob Read at March 24, 2004 at 06:42 AM

Ted,

Hamas said no more truces. Advantage Israel. Who can no longer be accused of breaking the (phony) truce.

Posted by: M. Simon at March 24, 2004 at 06:58 AM

If you have rouble breaking the "cycle of violence" then break the "wheelchair of violence"!

Posted by: Rob Read at March 24, 2004 at 07:06 AM

f'ing shi'ite keyboard

rouble= trouble!

Posted by: Rob Read at March 24, 2004 at 07:07 AM

Another good one read somewhere.

"If you seek martyrdom, come to us we can help.

The IDF. Just a phone call away".

PS: Anyone giving odds on Rantisi's lifespan?

Posted by: fred at March 24, 2004 at 09:17 AM

Considering that Israel is essentially a socialist country, why is our ABC so preoccupied with its theocratic enemies and their millenial long problem with the Jews? Or are they fixated on destroying the US and if we destroy the world at the same time, we have achieved our goal?

Posted by: Louis at March 24, 2004 at 09:55 AM

As i have asked elsewhere - would it be a good idea for Israel to knock off the replacement guy right now? He has taken the leadership of a terrorist organisation, thus implicitly backing their tactics, but has now also explicity vowed to continue the attacks on Israel. Ignoring all the rubbish about 'creating more terrorists', i think knocking off two leaders in quick succession would send a rather handy message..

Posted by: atilla at March 24, 2004 at 10:03 AM

Tman:
Osama and Yassin are ONE AND THE SAME. You want to kill Osama than you better not have a problem with Israel targeting people like Yassin.

Right on. To suggest otherwise is to reveal a set of double standards.

atilla:
i think knocking off two leaders in quick succession would send a rather handy message..

Yep. Take him out.

I don't think anybody out there realises just how untouchable and revered terrorists were until:

1) May 2002 when Israel started targetting terrorists.

2) April 2003 - the removal of Saddam

3) Israel, America and parts of Europe began to stop funding palestinians if the money was being used for terrorism.

Before these events, the families of suicide bombers would get large cheques in the mail, and the terror gangs would get more funding from Europe via Arafat.

I think Israel has the potential to show just how succesful pre-emptive assassinations can be against terrorism if they keep this up and knock off some Hamas guys and their families/bodyguards.

Posted by: Jono at March 24, 2004 at 10:33 AM

I have the same questions as SRD (first post). I can't understand why people, who encourage others about the 'glories of martyrdom', wouldn't want to share the 'glory' they talk so much about. I assume they *must* want a taste of it, since they preach about it so much.

So why get upset when a 'professional martyr maker' becomes a 'martyr' himself? Isn't that what they would have wanted? Isn't that what they spent their time encouraging others to become?

Posted by: Chris Josephson at March 24, 2004 at 11:05 AM

err, sorry to get all smutty, but, how does a bloke who is quadriplegic manage to father almost a dozen kids. My knowledge is sketchy, but I assumed that once the spinal cord went all feeling went 'down south' as well.

I'll happily be corrected over this, but er is this an Arab 'Bob Roberts', and is this where Tim Robins got the plot?

Posted by: pat at March 24, 2004 at 11:28 AM

The question was asked, and so it shall be answered. It depends on what has caused his paraplegia. We had a talk from a guy in highschool once who had broken his back when he was 18, but was the proud father of three kids. Apparently there was a form of massage (stop sniggering) that could produce the desired results. The other option he explained was to get a surgeon to (and i quote) "crack your nuts open and get what they need" Suffice to say, he was an entertaining speaker.

Posted by: atilla at March 24, 2004 at 11:40 AM

Thanks atila, here was me thinking that Mrs Yassin had been 'playing away' all these years and no-one had the heart to tell the flid.

Posted by: pat at March 24, 2004 at 11:46 AM

The Israeli-Palesinian conflict is such a tragedy. Fucking fanaticism. Israel would be their best ally, but they keep torturing their guard dog. I see two possible outcomes from their efforts to escalate conflict:

Palestinians lose; Israel wins

Palestinians lose; Israel loses; Syria, Egypt, and Iran win (and Jordan is put on the block).

Or the Palestinians could stop each other from killing Israelis. I don't think that's been a possibility for a long time though. Likely what is needed is a nice big conflict, but how many fanatics do they need to take out and how many people will the fanatics take with them? Can they do it without drawing a large scale attack from someone else? Maybe Jordan would keep things stable though.

Posted by: aaron at March 24, 2004 at 11:57 AM

I don't know, Pat. Is she good looking?

Posted by: Ken Summers at March 24, 2004 at 12:08 PM

Hi sent this letter to Silly Moaning Hilmer, how many chances of it getting it printed? answer: two, Buckleys & none. anyway heading was.
"Incestuous carrying on"
Is Alan Ramsey still a member of the Canberra press gallery? Does getting a Tingle in the morning from another member of the Canberra press gallery explain why Alan Ramsey has gone stark raving mad?
Kind regards
Michael Casey

Posted by: Michael Casey at March 24, 2004 at 12:22 PM

Planting in another man's garden always carries with it some risk, but it would take a courageous man indeed to indulge in some infidelity with the wife of the grand daddy of suicide bombers. I think Mrs Yassin would struggle to 'play away' even if she wanted to.

Posted by: atilla at March 24, 2004 at 02:05 PM

I wrote this in response to a ghastly fawning article on Yassin in the Guardian.

Use it or trash as you wish

Here is my take on what the Guardian might have written in 1945 if it then had its current group of intensely stupid writers and editors.


Dateline 1945

Today, Adolf Hitler, the elderly spiritual and political leader of the German people since 1933, overwhelmed by the intense pressures of the war to defend his homeland, died by his own hand rather than allow himself to be captured by ravening hordes of communist and allied troops hell-bent on killing him or subjecting him to a humiliating post-war trial.

Hitler had been suffering terribly from Parkinson’s disease and intermittent bouts of depression for some time, aggravated, no doubt, by efforts of traitorous Germans to remove him from his position as Fuehrer, and even to kill him.

Hitler had greatness and glory thrust upon him in the 1930’s as he rallied the German people to throw off the yoke of the brutally unfair Treaty of Versailles and worked tirelessly to lead Germany out of the Great Depression. Hitler’s prestige grew inexorably during the 1930’s. Even the Allied powers, his future enemies, appreciated his selfless and intense efforts to avoid war and achieve lasting peace during the negotiations at Munich in 1938. Even the British Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, recognized that the negotiations led by Hitler at Munich meant “Peace in our time.” It was only an isolated, discredited, bitter, bellicose, and unstable Winston Churchill, always a highly partisan critic of Hitler’s, who uncharitably characterized Munich as “a total and unmitigated defeat.” (Churchill held the prestigious position of First Lord of the Admiralty in World War I until he was discredited by the failure of his foolhardy Dardanelles invasion where the lives of many Australian troops were needlessly sacrificed. Churchill was subsequently demoted and sent the front line trenches in France.)

Domestically, Hitler was credited with rounding up many undesirables during the Night of the Long Knives, recognized for his charitable efforts in founding camps for displaced persons of Jewish origin, and hailed [heiled] for improving the literary content of German libraries. However, in spite of his best efforts, the ungrateful British never fully appreciated his accomplishments at urban renewal in the Greater London area. Hitler never withered under the glare of a publicity he could not escape. He became an accomplished speaker, hosted the 1936 Olympics with style, and endured the itnense spotlight of public adoration at Nuremburg as tens of thousands of intensely loyal Germans cheered him with salutes of Zieg Heil.

A decorated veteran of the front-line trenches on the Western Frontin World War I, Hitler is credited with returning the German military to its former glory and leading daring and brilliant military campaigns in defense of the Third Reich. He fell into misfortune when he was briefly imprisoned by shortsighted politicians in the 1920’s. However, Hitler did not allow himself to be deterred by this temporary setback. Unseen, unheard, and isolated in his prison cell, he applied himself to writing his epic work, Mein Kampf, in which he laid out his glorious vision for a new Germany and a new, united, and purified Europe.

Once released from prison, he tirelessly imbued his people with the self-evident glories of National Socialism and won a spectacular election as Chancellor in 1933. In the following years, through his unmatched charisma and foresight, he became Fuehrer of the Third Reich and led his people into a new golden age of power, prosperity, and lebensraum.

But it was the self-sacrificing zeal of his followers, enthusiastically implementing his inspired visions, that did so much to purify the Aryan blood lines and to mastermind new scientific advances ranging from the autobahn, to innovative policing methods, to advances in rocket science which may one day lead us into space, and to innovative new applications for showers and ovens.

Whether he truly intended it or not, he is likely to remain the embodiment of the German spirit and German aspirations for some time to come.

Herr Hitler’s loyal German Shepard, Blondi, and his adoring new young wife, Eva, were with him at the end, although they pre-deceased him by several minutes.

Private burial services were conducted shortly after his untimely death precipitated by the unrestrained fanatical violence employed by his enemies. In lieu of flowers, contributions may be made to The Fund for the Future of National Socialism (FFNS).

Posted by: Disgusted at March 24, 2004 at 03:50 PM

Disgusted: That was spectacular.

Posted by: Ken Summers at March 24, 2004 at 11:57 PM

Spiritual leader of militant organization which helps the poor.
Sounds like Friar Tuck, no?

Posted by: maor at March 25, 2004 at 02:21 AM

Has anyone noticed paralells in isreals' actions in taking out Yassin and taking out Saddam's nuke reactor all those years ago. It seems the international reaction has been pretty similar, however its pretty clear that Saddam's attempts to get hold of a nuclear weapon were compromised by Isreal's preemptive actions. (hmm, the french were helping him out with that, no?)Imagine what would have happened in 1991 if Saddam had had the bomb.
Anyway, it will be interesting to see what the eventual outcome of this latest tactic is.

Posted by: walter graham at March 25, 2004 at 11:32 AM

And what other instructions come "via LGF"?

Posted by: Miranda Divide at March 26, 2004 at 10:12 AM