January 07, 2004

ON HIS HOME PLANET, RADIO HAS PICTURES

Dennis Kucinich. Congressman. Presidential candidate. And Supergenius:

Federal spending was the topic and Democratic presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich came prepared with a pie chart to argue his point about a bloated Pentagon budget.

But although many listened to Tuesday's presidential debate, few could see the Ohio congressman's prop.

The debate was broadcast only on National Public Radio.

Via Roger Bournival. Kucinich is almost as bright as that Neal Starkman guy, who thinks people can be regular recipients of the Darwin Awards.

UPDATE. Kucinich impresses NPR listeners with his fashionable homemade trousers:

Posted by Tim Blair at January 7, 2004 02:01 PM
Comments

Is that the shadow of an anvil I see?

Posted by: Andrea Harris at January 7, 2004 at 02:05 PM

Pfft! A mere pie-chart. Australian Labor Party ex-President (now part-time President) Barry Jones once tried to explain this on radio. Laughingly known as the spaghetti and meatballs diagram, it was a major plank in Labor's subsequent election loss.

They use it now to figure out where to put illegal immigrants.

Posted by: ilibcc at January 7, 2004 at 02:34 PM

"Congressman Kucinich is holding up a pie chart, which is not truly effective on radio," Conan told his listeners.

Kucinich was not deterred.

"Well, it's effective if Howard can see it," he replied.

BWAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: scott h. at January 7, 2004 at 02:40 PM

Reminds me of the story about ventriloquist Edgar Bergen's old radio show. He actually used the dummy, talking back and forth with it just like in his live act, and he was so convincing that one time the boom mike guy actually moved the mike back and forth between the two of them. All the audience heard was Bergen's "side" of the conversation. Or maybe it was Paul Winchell? One of those guys.

Come to think of it, Kucinich looks like he'd be right at home on somebody's lap with their hand up his ass, huh?

Posted by: Jim Treacher at January 7, 2004 at 03:08 PM

Enough with the unwarranted attacks on Starkman. A significant percentage of the global population believes in reincarnation. Possibly they are correct.

The Darwins should consider a lifetimes achivement award for multiple recipients.

Posted by: Greg at January 7, 2004 at 03:14 PM

He was pulling a fast one. The pie on the left was made to look biggest by surrounding it with smaller pies. Bob and Ray used to do that all the time.

Posted by: Ron Hardin at January 7, 2004 at 03:14 PM

Fools! Maybe Starkman was right about you guys. Obviously, Kucinich is aware that pie charts can't be used via radio. He was displaying the charts for the transmission back to the folks on his home planet.

I mean, how slow do we have to go for this lot...?

Posted by: Jerry at January 7, 2004 at 03:19 PM

Mentioned on another thread - 'He (Kucinich) has a face made for radio'.

Posted by: Roger Bournival at January 7, 2004 at 03:43 PM

Wow. John Edwards has put on a lot of weight.

Posted by: g wiz at January 7, 2004 at 04:19 PM

[[[ Wow. John Edwards has put on a lot of weight. ]]]

LOL!

Posted by: Tim at January 7, 2004 at 04:29 PM

Jeez what a bunch of losers. It looks like a business school faculty meeting at one of our crappier polytechnics.

Posted by: Gordon King at January 7, 2004 at 04:30 PM

Speaking of ventriloquists, isn't our man Dennis a ventriloquist himself? Maybe he could use his dummy to explain the pie chart better. You know, appeal to those of us Starkman says have the lesser intellectual capacity.

Posted by: Sortelli at January 7, 2004 at 04:45 PM

The reason for the chart was to impress the folks in the NPR studio. These are type of people he needs to help him win.

Who knows who may have been listening via radio? Could have been some of the 'great unwashed' like me (I do listen to NPR). He wanted/needed to make points with people at the local NPR station so they'd become part of his army of believers.

The NPR folks, if they become his believers, can help him in many ways. They can pick and choose the stories about him to put him in the best light and they can make stories about his
opponents be framed in the worst possible way.

He was being wise, not stupid. He knows that if he can get the NPR folks to believe in him, he gains an advantage over his Democratic rivals.

Posted by: Chris Josephson at January 7, 2004 at 07:59 PM

The reason for the chart was to impress the folks in the NPR studio. These are type of people he needs to help him win.

Who knows who may have been listening via radio? Could have been some of the 'great unwashed' like me (I do listen to NPR). He wanted/needed to make points with people at the local NPR station so they'd become part of his army of believers.

The NPR folks, if they become his believers, can help him in many ways. They can pick and choose the stories about him to put him in the best light and they can make stories about his
opponents be framed in the worst possible way.

He was being wise, not stupid. He knows that if he can get the NPR folks to believe in him, he gains an advantage over his Democratic rivals.

Posted by: Chris Josephson at January 7, 2004 at 08:00 PM

Kucinich is clearly a mason.

He is signalling this to the same people who saw his pie chart on radio. Could it be a surreptitious message to the evil right-wing neocon conspiracy (who see all) that he is really one of them?

Posted by: The Mongrel at January 7, 2004 at 08:43 PM
UPDATE. Kucinich impresses NPR listeners with his fashionable homemade trousers:
He just forgot to take off his bicycle clip.


Posted by: Ernie G at January 8, 2004 at 12:14 AM

"Federal spending was the topic and Democratic presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich came prepared with a pie chart to argue his point about a bloated Pentagon budget."

Maybe his point is that, if the Pentagon would not eat so many pies, it wouldn't be so bloated.

Posted by: Dave T. at January 8, 2004 at 12:16 AM

Alfred E.Kucinich, please, please, PLEASE get the nomination.

Posted by: Doc at January 8, 2004 at 12:30 AM

I think Tim was right with the "home planet" business. Those are the same kind of pants they used to wear on Star Trek.

Posted by: Angie Schultz at January 8, 2004 at 01:02 AM

For those of you who haven't read it -- have a look at the bill Kucinich sponsored two years ago that would have, among other things, banned chemtrails and space-based mind-control rays. Mind control rays: section 7(2)(A)(ii)(II); chemtrials: section 7(2)(B)(ii).

Posted by: Combustible Boy at January 8, 2004 at 01:13 AM

The reason for the chart was to impress the folks in the NPR studio. These are type of people he needs to help him win.

If every single NPR listener decided to vote for Kucinich that would boost his poll numbers from 2% up to about 3%. Maybe. What Kucinich needs to help him win is a space-based mind-control ray.

Posted by: Randal Robinson at January 8, 2004 at 01:30 AM

Yeah, that's the ticket. He wanted to impress the radio folks in the radio studio. I bet they all remember the time they brought in a pie chart to use while on the air.

When I run for president, I won't be trying to reach that big, messy anonymous national audience out there, I'll aim for that hot chick in the front row of the debate. If I can get her support, I have done all I need to do.

Posted by: Sortelli at January 8, 2004 at 02:08 AM

Kucinich's sponsorship of that anti-space-weapons bill is his attempt to set us up to be defenseless against an invasion from his homeworld. I saw Independence Day, I know what's up.

We must kill him now, before it is too late.

Posted by: Bill at January 8, 2004 at 04:25 AM

Incidentally, imagine being the secret service detail that has to watch Kucinich right about now. You'd have to bike everywhere, and the smell of patchouli oil must be overwhelming.

Posted by: Bill at January 8, 2004 at 04:26 AM

I wish DK would get more opportunities (with or w/o pie-charts) to explain how he managed to bankrupt Cleveland when he was mayor.

Posted by: Theodopoulos Pherecydes at January 8, 2004 at 04:29 AM

Theo, I know this will come as a surprise, but I think his explanation is: "It was the fault of big corporations."

Posted by: Bob71 at January 8, 2004 at 06:41 AM

Where on the web can I find the pie(s) chart? It isn't at kucinich.us.

Posted by: Bob71 at January 8, 2004 at 07:03 AM

What's with all the black suits? You would think they were at a funeral.

Posted by: El-Diablo at January 8, 2004 at 07:10 AM

And remember, ladies, that sharp dresser is still single and very available.

Posted by: Les Jones at January 8, 2004 at 07:13 AM

Where is John Kerry's tie? Do haughty looking Frenchmen (who by the way served in Vietnam) wear ties these days?

Posted by: Joel at January 8, 2004 at 07:13 AM

Hmmmmm...a future president or future spokesmodel for Docker's? Nice pants!

Posted by: Zonker at January 8, 2004 at 07:24 AM

Where is John Kerry's tie? Do haughty looking Frenchmen (who by the way served in Vietnam) wear ties these days?

Looks like Kerry realized that this was radio and no one could see he wasn't wearing a tie. We're just lucky he wore pants.

Posted by: Randal Robinson at January 8, 2004 at 07:34 AM

Hey, has anyone seen Rev. Al around lately? What's happened to him? I haven't seen or heard from him since his SNL appearance.

Not that I'm complaining...

Posted by: Lawrence at January 8, 2004 at 07:37 AM

What's with Dean??? Grinning like a drunken uncle at a family gathering. At least, at this point, his hands are in his own pockets, not in mine looking for extra tax revenue. Really, would you allow yourself to be photographed with your hands in pockets while wearing a suit? Almost "used car salesmanish".

Posted by: Todd at January 8, 2004 at 08:17 AM

Help out a non-seppo: how do you pronounce the Space Cadet's name? Is it KOO-sin-itch? koo-sin-ICK? koo-SIN-ick? kooks-n-hicks?

Posted by: Fidens at January 8, 2004 at 08:20 AM

Tinfoil hats control static cling.

Posted by: Fred Boness at January 8, 2004 at 09:08 AM

The first one. Rhymes with spinich.

Posted by: Sortelli at January 8, 2004 at 09:09 AM

Although his name is spelled as "Kucinich," it is pronounced as "Doofus." Or was it "Throat-warbling Mangrove?"


Posted by: charles austin at January 8, 2004 at 09:12 AM

That photo look like the reunion of the debating club from high school. Sorry looking bunch then and now...

Posted by: Jake D at January 8, 2004 at 09:42 AM

Pie is goooood.

Posted by: Weebl at January 8, 2004 at 10:33 AM

Fidens -- you were close with the first one. It's koo-SIN-itch; strangely, the emphasis is on the sin and not on the cuckoo.

Posted by: Combustible Boy at January 8, 2004 at 11:29 AM

Fidens asked:
Help out a non-seppo: how do you pronounce the Space Cadet's name? Is it KOO-sin-itch? koo-sin-ICK? koo-SIN-ick? kooks-n-hicks?

His campaign manager says it rhymes with "spinach." So...
koo-SIN-itch

A good Croatian/Middle America (fly-over country) name.

Dennis' trousers look so funny because his mother made him wear his galoshes on account of all the snow, the cuffs just got caught.

Alternate theory: aluminium foil knee protectors caused his trouserlegs to ride up.

I used my computer's sooper-dooper magnifiying scooper on the photo to see that Kucinich's lapel pin is indeed a "Junior Airman." He's good for the bottle and box top vote.

And Kerry: dark suit, no tie, brown shoes (they look like slippers, maybe he got a little wet out there and borrowed something)

Funny they put Dennis between the two tall guys, almost looks like they're poking at him, kind of like you'd do to your little brother in a family photo when you were like ten. "chee...eee...whiz...guys! stop it!"

Howard almost looks tall next to Carol. Howard and JohnE look like Lipitor (TM) candidates.

I just realised who Kerry (at least in this photo) looks like...that head bartender in "Cheers." Poofy hair, long face, smile, open shirt, iffy shoes...

Actually I first heard of the pie chart on NPR, when I was driving to work this morning...they seemed to think it was a hoot.

Posted by: Timothy Lang at January 8, 2004 at 02:27 PM

I just figured out why ol' Howie Dean is smiling. HE'S PLAYING POCKET POOL!!! AND, he's standing next to Carol Mosely-Brown while he's doing it.

Posted by: David Crawford at January 8, 2004 at 04:14 PM

David - Ewwwww. You just destroyed my chances for ever having a normal sex life again.

Posted by: Quentin George at January 8, 2004 at 04:40 PM

Hey, just a minute, I swear think Howard Dean is playing with himself. Holy shit!! I think John Kerry is playing with Dennis Kucinich!!!

Posted by: Harry at January 8, 2004 at 04:54 PM

Combustible Boy:
Thanks for the link. I went there and read the resolution. Mind control from satellites: Wow. That's Tinfoil-hat City.

But what are chemtrails? I had to google on "chemtrails" to find out. Double wow! Downtown Tinfoil-hat City. First and Main.

The resolution also bans "tectonic weapons". Presumably these could be used as WMDs to cause earthquakes in hostile countries. Not to worry, DU and others have already made the Bush-Bam connection.

Posted by: Ernie G at January 9, 2004 at 12:37 AM

Is the picture the Australian version of the Goon show? Wow, they all look well wacky!

Posted by: Rob Read at January 9, 2004 at 09:05 AM