January 03, 2004


Americans are behaving badly in Baghdad, according to The Guardian:

Surrounded by upturned chairs and an abandoned turban, Sabah Al-Kaisey surveyed his ransacked office yesterday.

The American troops who burst into his mosque on Thursday morning had smashed down the front gate, broken the air conditioners and ripped up the carpets. They had also thrown several Korans on the floor and allegedly punched the man giving the call to prayer in the face.

"They even took our nuts," said Mr Kaisey yesterday.

They got your nuts a long time ago, pal. But why were these US troops being so unruly?

The troops who raided the Ibn Taymiyah mosque, used by Baghdad's Sunnis, appear to have been looking for weapons used by Iraq's resistance. They recovered a couple of AK-47s, hand grenades and an anti-aircraft missile, US military officials said.

Hmmm. Explaining that stash of goodies might be a little difficult.

Abdul Sattar, the mosque's imam, said the weapons were used by its guards. "They were there to protect ourselves," he told the Arabic TV station Al-Jazeera.

Excuse me ... an anti-aircraft missile?

Posted by Tim Blair at January 3, 2004 04:58 PM

And those grenades were just really really big nuts that grow native in and around the Sunni Mosques of Baghdad...


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Posted by: Daniel at January 3, 2004 at 05:27 PM

Well it is Baghdad. They're obviously afraid they'll be attacked by a Roc, and since Sinbad isn't around to protect them ....

Posted by: Sean O'Hara at January 3, 2004 at 05:36 PM

what was that joke about being "in dad's bag while dad was in bagdad"?

Posted by: roscoe.p at January 3, 2004 at 06:02 PM

I wish someone would seize my nuts.

Posted by: scott h. at January 3, 2004 at 06:19 PM

"Excuse me ... an anti-aircraft missile?"

Yeah Blair, and you're going to try and convince us that your neighborhood Anglican church doesn't have a couple of Stingers hidden down in its basement.

Posted by: David Crawford at January 3, 2004 at 06:22 PM

They need the AA missile for firing into the air on extra-special celebration days. Like it's your daughter's wedding and everyone's blasting away, suddenly you get word your beard's been voted "Bahgdad's #1 most Islamtastic" in Mostly Mullah magazine.

Then the AK isn't going to do it, you have to break out the shoulder-fired missile.

Posted by: Amos at January 3, 2004 at 06:26 PM

To protect themselves from someone hijacking a plane and trying to fly it into the mosque!

Posted by: Andjam at January 3, 2004 at 10:29 PM

No, it's to stop birds building a nest in the roof.

Posted by: Johnny Wishbone at January 3, 2004 at 10:50 PM

No, it's a HOLY anti-aircraft, for defence against the Rabbit of Caerbannog...

Posted by: cheshirecat at January 3, 2004 at 10:58 PM

No, it's a HOLY anti-aircraft, for defence against the Rabbit of Caerbannog...says so in the Qu'ran:

(Sura 1092:03)
And the Prophet(PBUH) spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, firest thou thy Holy Anti-Aircraft missile of Shiia towards thy foe, who, being dhimmi in My sight, shall snuff it.'

Posted by: cheshirecat at January 3, 2004 at 11:04 PM

Mullah 1: "Oh it's a missile? Is that what that is? We had no idea!"

Mullah 2: "We had it just propping some shit up.. like a door or something."

Mullah 1: "Window-"

Mullah 2: "Or something, open... propping it open."

Mullah 1: "Right. Fresh Air."

Mullah 2: "Very important.. for our .. uh.. "

Mullah 1: "Holyness."

Mullah 2: "Right."

(Exchange nervous glances)

Posted by: Amos at January 3, 2004 at 11:56 PM

Anyone remember Palestinian "militants" invading and trashing the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem to escape Israeli soldiers?

Muslims, in general, have very little respect for infidel holy places. The US and it's allies should treat Muslim holy places with the same respect Muslims show Christian, Jewish, Hindu and Buddhist holy places.

Posted by: Reid of America at January 4, 2004 at 01:58 AM


I think that, once you start storing grenades and anti-aircraft missiles in a building, it's stopped being a holy place and has become an ammunition supply point.

Posted by: David Crawford at January 4, 2004 at 02:52 AM

Hammorabi at http://hammorabi.blogspot.com/ has comments about the recent name change of this mosque to one which conotes "wahabism" mullah followers. Scroll down to Jan 2nd entries.

Seems to put the right perspective on that missile.

Posted by: Gary at January 4, 2004 at 02:58 AM

Hmmm. Yup. The sacremental AK-47, the holy hand grenade, the SAM of Allah... it really DOES sound like a Monty Python skit.

Sure. Anti-aircraft missile. To protect themselves. Y'know, a few weeks back, someone ran into my car. It was just fortunate for myself that I had the roof-mounted Browning M2 .50 Heavy Machine Gun. To protect myself! He COULD have been trying to really hurt me, instead of skidding on the icy street while trying to stop!

Can't be too careful, y'know.

Posted by: Wonderduck at January 4, 2004 at 03:28 AM

Nuts and dolts.

Posted by: Sissy Willis at January 4, 2004 at 03:58 AM

Gives a whole new meaning to prayer and "nuts" or should we call them 'prayer nuts"?

Posted by: Brian J. at January 4, 2004 at 04:25 AM

Unless they were holy relics put there to attract the faithful.

Posted by: Dani at January 4, 2004 at 04:50 AM

Kemo Sabah has a point, I can understand needing an anti-aircraft missile for self-defense. Just in case Mohammed Atta returns from his torments down in the 7th level of hell. Drag that rat bastards entrails thru the coals once for me, oh Jinn.

Posted by: Carl H. at January 4, 2004 at 05:13 AM

Major Sean Bannion has pics of what they found. TNT, blasting caps, mortar sights (for self-defense, you know).

Posted by: scott h. at January 4, 2004 at 07:17 AM

What a second, there are no pictures of the nuts! Cover-up!

Posted by: scott h. at January 4, 2004 at 07:21 AM

My local Anglican minister was busted for storing a howitzer in his chapel. Said he needed it to 'blast Satan from our hearts". If he had to go to jail I don't see why these Mullahs get a free pass.

Posted by: Amos at January 4, 2004 at 08:02 AM

I often keep an anti-air craft missile stashed in my pants. Y'know, just to impress the ladies.

Posted by: Quentin George at January 4, 2004 at 08:07 AM

No, no....it's obvious that the items in question were left in the collection plate by a member of the congregation, as their tithe!

Yeah, I once left a 9mm Browning HiPower in the collection plate at my church, when I was a little short on cash. Happens all the time!

Posted by: rinardman at January 4, 2004 at 09:13 AM

Were they going to claim that the weapons were souveniers of the Saddam era? Aw, Nuts!

Posted by: Teresa at January 4, 2004 at 09:14 AM

Imagine stealing from the collection plate in that church!

Posted by: QuentinGeorge at January 4, 2004 at 09:52 AM

Just another example of the Arab/Islam side breaking the rules first and when the other side responds it is seen as culturally insensive. How Leftoids will pontifcate with the news US soldiers raided a mosque, ignoring that it has been turned into a weapons dump.

Same at the Church of Nativity, Palestinian militant blasted their way into the Chruch with shotguns, shooting a locked door to bits and held the clerics hostage, however it was Isarel who violated the sanctity of the Church by stationing tanks outside, which never fired!

And Israel breaks the rule of war by "stopping' Red Crescent ambulances (but letting then go after they were checked) yet this only began to happen after the Palestinians broke the rules by smuggling sucide bombers in ambulances.

If you hit below the belt then all bets are off.

Posted by: Mark at January 4, 2004 at 10:18 AM

I just keep thinking of the movie "Monty Python And The Holy Grail" and the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.

..."And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy".

Posted by: P.J. at January 4, 2004 at 10:55 AM

First of all, you shouldn't believe this story, the source of which are the Sunni Imams. I just read that Iraqi Police proceeded the American Soldiers into the Mosque. I don't believe there was any desecration by the Americans. The Moslems ripped up there own Koran.

Posted by: Jabba the Nutt at January 4, 2004 at 12:02 PM

My main question is how Abdul Sattar, an academic at Griffith University when I studied IT there became an imam.
See here

Posted by: Quentin George at January 4, 2004 at 12:35 PM

I tend to think that the Holy Qu'aran may have had a page or two ripped out - the pages with hand-written instructions to the Faithful on RPG and AA missle launching.

Come on fellas - it's Baath time!

Posted by: Thorn at January 4, 2004 at 12:37 PM

Infidels! You do not understand or show compassion! The airplanes are getting between our prayers and Allah! The missiles are an essential part of our peaceful, inclusive faith you Frankish Crusader pigs!

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at January 4, 2004 at 01:24 PM

If mosques have anti-aircraft missiles, it is only to preempt the Vatican's notorious plans to proselytize Iraq with flying nuns.

Posted by: David Blue at January 4, 2004 at 02:42 PM

I've seen the photos of the weapons (on the Net) seized from that Baghdad 'mosque'. About a dozen AK-47s/a sniper rifle/ a heavy machine gun, mortar tubes and 3 mortar sights, lots of blasting caps, explosives, couple dozen loaded clips for the rifles, machine gun connective clips, and much, much else.
I hate to be cruel, but this Mosque cries out to be leveled. Lessons taught, lessons learned.

Posted by: Gerry at January 4, 2004 at 02:44 PM

Nothing a handy anti-aircraft battery on the mosque, gives it that homey feeling doesn't it?

Posted by: Andrew Ian Dodge at January 4, 2004 at 02:47 PM

OT: Australian idiotarian John Pilger is lagging behind in the LGF "idiotarian of the year" award! Have you guys no sense of national pride?

Posted by: Andjam at January 4, 2004 at 04:34 PM

Let's not forget the real crime here, a navy turban with those slacks? Hel-o!

Posted by: Amos at January 4, 2004 at 11:02 PM

An abandoned turban?

Good. I am glad our boys are fighting turban blight in Baghdad . . . . .

Posted by: Lewis at January 4, 2004 at 11:47 PM

I think I heard Charlton Heston once say,"They'll have my gun when they take it from my cold, dead Imam." Something like that . . . .

Posted by: Lewis at January 4, 2004 at 11:49 PM

We'e all so culturally insensitive! We just don't appreciate the proper furnishings of a mosque. It's not just the Americans, either. The British, who really ought to know better, committed a similar outrage nearly a year ago:

"Anti-terrorist police who burst into the Finsbury Park mosque in north London early yesterday found weapons including a stun gun and hundreds of suspected forged or stolen passports, identity and credit cards.
They also found a CS gas canister and a blank-firing imitation firearm at the building, which security forces believe has been used as a haven and base for Islamic fundamentalist terrorists." -Telegraph Jan 21,2003

Posted by: Ernie G at January 5, 2004 at 02:17 AM