November 21, 2003


Polly Toynbee has identified the cause of yesterday’s attacks in Turkey -- it’s Tony Blair:

Once had decided to take the country to war, terrorist retaliation was certain.

Toynbee supported the liberation of East Timor -- “There is a right time for dealing with long-running oppressions - Serbia and Kosovo, or East Timor. Whatever the reason, when the chance comes it has to be seized” -- so, by her logic, we may blame Polly for retaliatory strikes against Australians. Strange how often the left forgets Osama bin Laden’s condemnation of that campaign. In hindsight, would Toynbee not have supported a free East Timor? It seems so, given that avoidance of retaliation is her primary aim. Oh, she blames Bush as well:

Bombs in Istanbul are the only outcome from this presidential visit.

No, the bombs in Istanbul are the outcome of a global terrorist cult that would as soon kill Polly as any other infidel. Probably sooner, seeing as she’s such a mouthy chick.

Bombers must be defied, but who is tackling the global causes of bombing?

They’re both mentioned in your column, Polly. For your next trick, let’s see you blame Blair and Bush for this:

Islamic militants burned to the ground thirteen churches and several houses in a remote northern Nigerian town after a Christian student was accused of blasphemy, police said on Thursday.

Posted by Tim Blair at November 21, 2003 05:13 PM

Does Ms. Toynbee have a middle name or a nickname that can be used when she's quoted on this site?

Posted by: Polly at November 21, 2003 at 05:17 PM

Not only did bin Laden condemn Australia's role in the liberation of East Timor but the Al Qaeda press release immediately after the Bali bombing cited it as a reason that all Australians were legitimate targets for murder.

It is inconsistencies such as Ms. Toynbee's (and many, many others) that illustrate the difference between true anti-Americanism from otherwise legitimate criticism. What's that charming word that Brits have for a woman like this? Oh yeah, cunt.

Posted by: Freudrich Nietzsche at November 21, 2003 at 05:39 PM

The problem with people like Ms. Toynbee is that they seem to be OK with the terrorist murderers killing whomever they like whenever they feel like it. Like over indulgent parents who always make excuses for their kids, when the terrorist murderers bomb women and children, hey what do you expect?

Posted by: Jack Tanner at November 21, 2003 at 10:48 PM

Here in the UK she is popularly known as The Dreaded Pollster. And sometimes Poisonous Polly.

Posted by: Peter Briffa at November 21, 2003 at 10:58 PM

Toynbee had some good strong stuff against Islamofascism in the wake of 9/11 - too bad she couldn't follow through. Surprising how quickly some people forget.

Posted by: James Dudek at November 22, 2003 at 12:43 AM

And let's not forget the UN bombing in Baghdad.

Posted by: Chuck T. at November 22, 2003 at 03:28 AM

Fisk has joined the fray in the Independent- the Tukey bombings are all the Pommies fault, not the gutless homicidal loons who packed the cars with explosives and hardware, parked the vehicles outside office buildings, waited for a crowd and threw the switch.

I've linked the article- go and read at your peril.

Posted by: Habib at November 22, 2003 at 12:23 PM

I suggest anyone who's looking for an answer to the "resistant-west-causes-anti-western-terrorism" line could do worse than read a classic of the violent left and its moral posturing on the subject of justified resentment and the righteousness of violence: Frantz Fanon's "The Wretched of the Earth," with uncannily fiskian preface by Jean-Paul Sartre. Sartre, beating his breast--and knowing that his invitation to enraged Algerians to come to Paris and kill, yes, kill all Frenchmen like him who are responsible for Algeria's colonizing will not be taken up--says that if he were an Algerian he would certainly kill Jean-Paul Sartre. Wasn't it Fisk early on in Afghanistan who was attacked by the locals, and who said that yes, he understood his own hatefulness, being western as he was, and if he'd been an Afghan he beaten himself, too?

The fact that terrorists want to kill us is obvious; less obvious is the peculiar logic by which the left positively identifies--and indeed must identify--with violent anti-western genocide. When are we going to come right out and say, not that they the left is--somehow illogically--on the side of the violence they condemn, and not simply, as Glenn Reynolds says, that they are not anti-war, they're just on the other side, but the bald bleeding truth about leftists, which is that they are violent in their minds and and murderous in their souls, and on top of that are cowards because they seem to believe that they need the cover and pretext of concern for the "wretched of the earth" to hide behind and justify their the murderous violence that drives them on? There are two enemies: the Islamist terrorist in the mid-east, and the leftists in the west; and the two are finally one. Where that takes us next, I fear to speculate.

Posted by: Michael McCanles at November 22, 2003 at 02:19 PM

May I correct you Mr Nietche,the word c**t is used for someone particularly nasty,as in "What a C**t!",in Polly's case the word is qualified and the phrase is Silly C**t.Emphasis can then be given to either of,or both words to express degrees of meaning.Try it,it is most satisfying.
However there is still a taboo on the C word and it can raise the emotional temperature considerably.

Posted by: Peter Bocking at November 23, 2003 at 12:51 AM