October 13, 2003


What the hell does Bob Carr think he’s doing presenting a $50,000 peace prize to Hanan Ashrawi -- a member of Yasser Arafat’s cabinet?

Carr might ask Ashrawi what she means by comments like these: “When newspapers ask if Palestinians deliberately sacrifice their children, it's an incredibly racist thing to do ... We are not fond of mass suicide, but we want the right to resist occupation and injustice.”

Not fond? Meanwhile, on the subject of Yasser, the ABC is currently updating its obit for the old freak. Seems the national broadcaster isn’t convinced by the Arafat tummy ache theory.

UPDATE. In other local generosity news, former Viet Cong soldiers will visit Australia next year on the taxpayers’ tab. Some vets aren’t taking this well:

Vietnam Veterans Federation of Australia NSW president Frank Grady said he did not support the visit.

"I would like to shoot them at the airport, and so would 40,000 others," he said.

"They are communists who subjected their own people to years and years of repression."

Posted by Tim Blair at October 13, 2003 04:27 AM

Little Zooks of whom no one was fond
Was launched towards the roof and beyond
The infant's trajectory
Took him over the rectory
And into a lily-choked pond.

Edward Gorey

Posted by: Ron Hardin at October 13, 2003 at 05:56 AM

I know that it is a stretch, but I am taking the liberty of using the reference to the peace prize to segue to the comments of Dr. Robinson about the EPA and DDT. I wonder what the ratios are between how many people die from the lack of protection provided by DDT, and the number of people murdered by Palestinian, Taliban, etc., terrorists; .....or,.. how many deaths per EPA employee as compared to the number killed by those fanatically superstitious individuals. (http://www.accesstoenergy.com/view/ate/s41p1357.htm) .....Hmmmmm,,, do you suppose that, based on the Robinson data and references, the EPA could be considered a terrorist organization? Perhaps someone over there will win the peace prize next time around.

Posted by: K'tar Deaz at October 13, 2003 at 06:20 AM

She wants peace for Israel. One might say she even wants the peace of a final solution for the problem.

Posted by: Mike G at October 13, 2003 at 06:59 AM

Nothing much more peaceful than a cemetery full of dead people.

Posted by: JorgXMcKie at October 13, 2003 at 07:29 AM

Roofing nails cost about $.80 per pound. So $50,000 buys 62,500 lbs of shrapnel for mass-murder bombers so beloved by the Palestinians. Likewise, $50,000 buys just over a ton of smokeless black powder.

Posted by: perfectsense at October 13, 2003 at 08:34 AM

What a joke. This woman is nothing more than propagandist and a terror-apologist.

Posted by: Jono at October 13, 2003 at 11:05 AM

I can understand (if not empathize) with the lack of "fondness" for terrorist activities. Not only can it really make for a bad hair day, but it's all like messy 'n stuff too. All that gore and blood... why it's enough to put you off your Big Mac and fries!

Posted by: 42nd SSD at October 13, 2003 at 11:11 AM

Do the ex-V.C coming here vindicate the domino theory?

Posted by: gaz at October 13, 2003 at 11:37 AM

Of course, they would have their very own state if they hadn't: rejected partition in 1937; thrown their hand in with the wrong side in World War II; rejected partition in 1947; set up a state between 1949 and 1967 when the Israelis could have done nothing about it; done something other than the three "no's" at Khartoum after the Six Day War; shown any interest in a real peace with Israel over the next thirty years; or accepted what was all of what they reasonably could have expected in 2000.

By the way, she claims it's "incredibly racist" to ask if the Palis deliberately sacrifice children for political ends. It may be incredibly racist, but it's also true.

Posted by: Alex Bensky at October 13, 2003 at 12:19 PM

Why is the NSW Premier presenting a peace prize to terrorist politician? Could be in the name. Mr Carr, Bob.

Posted by: pooh at October 13, 2003 at 12:27 PM

Never having heard of the Sydney Peace Prize I was worried that the NSW tax payer had to fork over the cash. Apparantly thats not the case so I could not care less about it.

The site. does explain that, "The Prize highlights the philosophy, language and practice of non-violence and thus affects a country's reputation, self-image and culture."

Obviously the judges forgot to read the selection criteria before they handed out the cash.

Posted by: Gill at October 13, 2003 at 12:55 PM

Does anyone know who sponsors the "Sydney Peace Prize"?

Posted by: Evil Pundit at October 13, 2003 at 01:11 PM

Sorry, I should have done my Google search before asking.

Sponsors of the Sydney Peace Prize. Committee members responsible for selecting recipients. Contact information.

Posted by: Evil Pundit at October 13, 2003 at 01:15 PM

Did you cop a load of the advisory committee.

Some real zoomers among them - no wonder a lunatic got the prize.

Posted by: Gilly at October 13, 2003 at 01:42 PM

Hugh Mackay. Kerry O'Brien.

Tell me that isn't an organisation with a political agenda.

Posted by: ilibcc at October 13, 2003 at 01:59 PM

You think you have it bad? My undergrad college had Ashrawi as the **keynote speaker** for a symposium on the Middle East peace on **9/11/02**. Nice commemoration, huh? Now I tell people I went to Carnegie Mellon.

Posted by: Mortified CC Grad at October 13, 2003 at 02:03 PM

Sydney Peace Group: 'A partnership between the corporate, media, public service, community groups and academic communities.'

Partnership? The first-mentioned partner stumps up the money like the good, stupid corporate citizens they are. The rest spend it running their dangerous pro-terrorist peace mantra.

Pressure groups getting money out of corporates is mentioned in today's Andrew Bolt Melbourne Herald Sun piece warning corporates must cease kowtowing to community pressure groups (specifically green groups) - noting that Southcorp donated a six-figure cheque to the Australia Conservation Foundation and suggesting that 'even if you're not raping the environment, act like you are. Give in to the greens. Tell them you'll focus on the "triple bottom line" - and write them a cheque.'. (No link yet - to encourage sales of the actual newspaper, the Herald Sun does not run that day's most popular articles on its website. Bad luck if you're in Seattle.)

It is important to note that this trend sees you paying taxes to fund dubious pressure groups, then paying again through misplaced corporate 'philanthropy', the cost of which is passed on to the paying customer.

It's no wonder Michael Moore is so rich. People of his type really know how to raise funds.

Posted by: ilibcc at October 13, 2003 at 02:28 PM

At least she isn't as bad as a certain recipient of another peace prize.

Posted by: Andjam at October 13, 2003 at 02:34 PM

Had a counsin in Viet Nam. Arrived back home broken in body and spirit. He's been in and out of hospitals to help him with his mental and physical pain.

He's aware of, and supports, the Viet Nam Vets going back to Vietnam to 'exorcise' their demons.
I don't know how he'd feel if a bunch of ex-Viet Cong were to come to the US officially and be welcomed.

I don't think he'd be very happy. He doesn't talk much about what he experienced over there. But he still has nightmares from whatever it was.

I bet many Ausie Vets are in the same boat as my cousin. Can't the ex Viet Cong be sponsored unofficially by some group(s)? Just out of regard for the soldiers who may be in the same type of pain as my counsin.

Has either government ever sponsored visits by Japanese or German soldiers? I wonder how those vets liked it?

Posted by: Chris Josephson at October 13, 2003 at 02:37 PM

it's not just muckwit hugh mackay and the red-headed shithouse kerry 0'brien on the panel. the irish/black anarchist lefty twat feminist activist judge pat 0'shane's there too. gawd....

Posted by: roscoe p coltrane at October 13, 2003 at 03:15 PM

Wow Tim's on a roll today - lots of abuse for just about anyone who doesn't think like Tim.

You truly are a model of political correctness.

How about you write a book that spells out in black and white what we should all think and even more importantly what we should not think.

Meanwhile, the war drags on and what's Tim contribution to the war effort. You got it. Nothing. Just lies, hate and abuse.

Did you even bother to ask any of your editor's at ACP if you could be given an embed assignment to Iraq. Or even at the Packer Press, do you actually have to have a track record as a journalist who can ask questions and not just cut and paste, to get a posting to a war zone.

I'd say Tim has quietly forgotten his supposed job as a journalist and is now fully committed to just been a right wing attack dog in return for a few gold coins and the occasional invite to a lunch among his fellow travelers of hate.

The real reason Tim get's so upset at my frequent references to lunch, is that Tim rarely gets invited to join in those long long lunches his right wing attack dog mates have every few days in our best restaurants around town.

Oh what a hasbeen wannabe you are Tim - and ain't that the Truth!

Posted by: Tim's Pet Hate at October 13, 2003 at 06:14 PM

He hate's Tim but he love's apostrophe's.

Posted by: pooh at October 13, 2003 at 06:25 PM

Thanks for making me laugh Big Hawk. Seriously mate, stay off the piss, you can't handle it.

I was always under the impression that Australian Nam Vets usually respected the enemy (at least the N.V.A)as skilled fighters. Same for our W.W.2 veterans and their attitude to the Germans. The Japanese were a different case entirely. Some German Afrika Korp veterans came to Brisbane during Anzac Day (our version of Memorial Day) a couple of years ago and apparently everyone got along fine.

I'm very sorry about your cousin, but I'm grateful to him as well, and your uncles.

Posted by: gaz at October 13, 2003 at 06:40 PM

look everybody! GOLD COIN! GOLD COIN! what did i tell yaz? LUNCH is out, GOLD COIN is in.

Posted by: roscoe p coltrane at October 13, 2003 at 06:43 PM

With those gold coins we can buy lots of lunches!

Posted by: Andrea Harris at October 13, 2003 at 08:59 PM

Like the paleosimians and the Japanese, the Viet Cong fought without any honour whatsoever, committing endless war crimes without a shred of shame - indeed with considerable pride. I could totally understand any enemy of these vermin wanting to bayonet them, however many decades on it may be. But we must also learn from the past - all it took was two small nukes to make the Japs peaceful and productive, and turn a brutal, diseased warmongering culture into well-behaved capitalists.

Posted by: Clem Snide at October 13, 2003 at 10:13 PM

From an examination of the census, I see that the number of Australian residents (if not electors) who identify as Jewish is dropping and dropping in percentage terms, currently 0.4%
At the same time the number of Australian residents (if not electors) who identify as Muslim is showing the opposite tendancy, currently 1.5%.

So, if you are a politician chasing votes, which way do you go?

Posted by: bai ren at October 13, 2003 at 10:55 PM

With "Peace Prizes" (I can use apostrophes's too!) going to the likes of Hanan Ashrawi, Susan Sontag and Jimmy Carter, it sure devalues their propaganda value.

Posted by: Jabba the Nutt at October 13, 2003 at 11:43 PM

Hye come on guys , i Arafat can get a nobel then surely Ashrawi's worth a Sydney??!!

Posted by: DeadED at October 14, 2003 at 12:29 AM

Maybe a Goondoowindi Peace Prize with a bonus kick up the butt by a prizewinning racehorse.

Posted by: pooh at October 14, 2003 at 12:02 PM