Tim Blair

He's actually right... But misleading. "Every fact in this film is true" is a tautology, by the defition of "fact". He's saying the "facts" are true, not claiming that the film has any basis on reality. (There are precious few 'facts' in this film, but the ones that are facts, are true, by definition.)

I sat through the DVD on the weekend, having the flu and being unable to drink. I'll post a review shortly- how the fuck did it win an oscar? Besides the blatant bullshit and cheap shots, it was so poorly made, edited and researched that even the Australia Council probably would have knocked it back for funding if it was made here.
I have seen much better student films at local festivals, with nothing like Fat Boy's budget (or profile- and we're talking planetary profiles here).

I sat through the DVD on the weekend, having the flu and being unable to drink.

Your tolerance for pain is astounding.

Yeah I came into possession of a copy of the film. It didn't appear to flow properly. It honestly looks like there was no real plan involved - I was left at the end of it thinking: what point was he trying to get across? And gee I feel like a Big Mac(TM).

The film is a hit because it caters to the popular and expanding anti-american bigot market. Ho ho, aren't yanks dumb, stupid yanks, ten bucks to se this garbage? No problem.

So it's big in hollywood, and huge in France in the same way the 1934 Alabana film "The Rapist Nigger Menace" and the 1945 Japanese Documentary "Round-Eyed Foreign Devils are Destined Cower Befor Our God-Emperor" both had their day.

Moore is basically your common or garden tabloid hack elevated to insane heights. I used to get a giggle out of his TV trash doccies, specially the one about the woman who sold fluffy bunny rabbits to families, and also flogged them as meat (seen matter-of-factly killing and skinning a beloved charge in her back garden).

I watched an 'illegal' DivX / xVid copy of this movie some time ago. (DivX / xVid are the two most popular video compression formats for movies privated and legal)

When I watched it I also felt there was a serious lack of flow.. And had to pause it several times to get over the shear audacity of some of the cheap shots. What I found even more annoying was that the film doesn't even have the guts to suggest a solution, or even present an arugement in a way where as the view can agree of disagree - its nothing more then a disjointed series of cheap shots and poor humour.

he's fat, you say? why, i had no idea. thankyou for bringing this heretofore unknown fact to wider attention.

NEVER TRUST A MAN WITH FIVE CHINS

never trust a man with one joke.

Michael Moore: a mind is a terrible thing to waste, a waist is a terrible thing to mind.

I love this site because nowhere else can a goldfish like me be constantly reminded that Michael moore is overweight.

Hold on...Michael Moore's fat? Oh, har-de-har-har!

I love this site because nowhere else can a goldfish like me be constantly reminded that Michael moore is overweight.

Hold on...Michael Moore's fat? Oh, har-de-har-har!
I love this site because nowhere else can a goldfish like me be constantly reminded that Michael moore is overweight.

Hold on...Michael Moore's fat? Oh, har-de-har-har!

You're right - we shouldn't just make fun of Michael Moore's weight problem. He also needs a bath.

How about a book entitled "Michael Moore is a Big Fat Idiot"? Oops, that one was already taken by a sensitive, caring liberal named Al Franken. Libs, being the caring, nurturing individuals that they are would never make fun of a person's weight, now would they?

Meanwhile Limbaugh is called fat to this day... be sure to tell sites saying that the same thing okay?

Adrian,

Holy crap, you mean to tell me Michael Moore is fat? And here I was the whole time thinking he was just fulla shit.

You mean that cheesy secretion that collects between the glans and the foreskin has made a movie? Oh, sorry, thats smegma, not Michael Moore. Forget I said anything. (I'll bet they smell the same.)

Yeah, constantly cracking about Michael Moore's weight is really overdone. It would be like - I dunno - constantly cracking about Bush being dumb.

I guess the only differece is that the latter is debatable, while the former is empirically obvious.

Michael Moore is so fat that when he lies around the house ... he get the Academy Award.

uhhh... make that "gets." Dammit.

"And anybody who says otherwise is committing an act of libel.”

Slander, Mikee. Libel is printed.

wow. congratulations, all of you, for missing the point. allow me to spell it out: that joke's not funny anymore.

if you think a lack of originality in your insults can be justified on account of someone else's lack of originality in their insults, then clearly the wait for a conservative comedian who is actually amusing [dennis miller therefore excluded] will go on for some time yet.

Oh Adam, Don't be so sensitive. Moore's an idiot too!

And a Liar.

And a Hypochrit.

A message to Michael Moore, What few facts are in your piece of trash fantasy film "Bowling for Columbine" are twisted to suit your own ends.

Oh, and you're fat, too.

So sue me.

Hey Adam check this out.

Michael Moore is so fat that this one time when he was hanging out on a street corner the cops came by and told him to break it up.

Can't believe Michael Moron got so many replies (me guilty of it too),no wonder he's so popular in Hollyweird.

Listen folks,Hollyweird and it's silicone occupants are not from this planet,never mind the good old US of A. They even cheer and cherish Jacko Wacko..
There,I rest my case.

BTW,great site Mr.Blair and mighty glad that I found it.

If we don't call Michael Moore "Big, Fat, Lying Bastard" then how will we distinguish him from a "Slim, Svelte, Lying Bastard" like John Pilger? Or an "Aging, Decrepit, Lying Bastard" like Ralph Nader?

With regards to "Facts are true" being a tautology:

A fact is something presented as having an objective reality. The objective reality of a fact may be that it is false.

Remember all those years back when we were in grammar school? Fact versus opinion? Facts are things you can prove true or false. Opinions are not.

Of course, nobody uses this definition of "fact" anymore-- everyone just uses it to mean "something that is true." So I guess there's nothing wrong with calling Moore on it.

But we don't have to resort to picayune technical errors when confronting Moore-- why fuss about the hoofprints on your carpet when there's a cow in your living room?

There should be a prize for guessing Adam's weight.

My kids insisted on "Bowling" this Labor Day weekend. OK and we made it a family discussion project. I had read all of the reviews that pointed out the falsifications, and I wasn't disappointed; the staged bank scene, the Lockheed facility in Littleton that makes rocket boosters for satellites, not WMD; not explaining that the aid given to Afgan/Taliban was for food and medicines/vaccinations; the B-52 plaque that supposedly rejoices in the Vietnamese killed, etc...
Touching scene: The kids shot at Columbine in K-Mart HQ (with Moore leading them on) explaining why bullets should no longer be sold in its stores. Their grief and pain are genuine and K-Mart's decision to stop selling bullets within 90 days complemented their feelings.
Film's pace: Like an overactive pinball machine. Jumped around too much.
Message: American White Man's fear of the "other" is responsible for gun deaths. Such a stretch, (black on black killings are all the rage in Chicago) but it coincides with his book called "Fat White Men" or something like that. I guess Norman Mailer must have seen the film/read the book. Do you remember his opinion piece from, I think, the London Times? He, too, blamed the shrinking manhood of White Men as the cause for the Iraq war and the decline of the USA.
Film makes interesting points, but I'm disappointed it was taken as a documentary. Euro students I have just love it. When I tell them it was BS, they tell me it won an Oscar as a documentary, so how could it not be true?

I sure am glad Adam's here to tell us what is funny and what is not.

...and being unable to drink.

This, among other reasons, is why I love you Aussies.

Back in the day, when I was I young Marine, I (and several of my shipmates) made the mistake of trying to keep up with some RAN tincan sailors on liberty in Hawaii. We thought we could drink...

All I can say is thank God you're on our side.

Oh yeah, and Michael Moore is fat.

He's got more chins than a Chinese phone book.

Not only can he direct, but he can act, too.

I was moved to tears during the second Austin Powers movie, when he said,"I eat because I'm unhappy, and I'm unhappy because I eat."

I laughed during that same movie when he sang, "I want my baby-back baby-back baby-back baby-back...ribs."

The range, the ability to throw himself into a character...

Pardon me while I have a moment...

Person A: "Moore is an irritating hypocritical liar, for concrete reasons A, B, C, D... *fat joke*"

Person B: OMG YOU CALLED HIM FAT IF THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO THEN SHUT UP.

Remember, kids: if you make fun of someone, every single legitimate criticism you have is thereby rendered null and void.

Oh bollocks. From where I sit he's not fat at all. You want fat, come round to my place and I'll show you fat.

As to the film, I too watched it for the first time on DVD over the weekend. I'm a little concerned for those of you who din't understand what it's central message is. It really could not be much clearer.

But the film is not crash hot. First 20 minutes held the interest level, but it was all downhill from there on. I think I nodded off quite often thereafter. Given the simpliciity and obviousness of the core message, perhaps 30 mins is more than enough time. Oscar winner? Nah.

If you want to see what the state of mind of the typical Academy voter is, consider that BfC won the Oscar over the movie "Spellbound" which shows, in my opinion, the exact opposite of Moore's America: Hopeful, ambitious, successful, and from all walks of life and backgrounds. But of course, that would send the wrong message from Hollywood, wouldn't it? Here's an imdb link to those of you Down Under who haven't heard about this great little documentary (which is 100% real btw). Spellbound Info

Well, I'm glad that at least one person here agrees that "George Bush is dumb" is as vaid a statement as "Michael Moore is fat".

At least Michael Moore can cut back on the pork rinds and take up jogging. What can Bush do about his mental "90-pound former cheerleader on the beach" problem?

Well, I'm glad that at least one person here agrees that "George Bush is dumb" is as valid a statement as "Michael Moore is fat".

At least Michael Moore can cut back on the pork rinds and take up jogging. What can Bush do about his mental "90-pound former cheerleader on the beach" problem?

Adrian dear, you only have to click once.

Is it just me, or are there more people explaining to us all what is and is not funny than there were just a few years ago? Some twit over on the Dailypundit explained that Scrappleface isn't funny because it isn't done like the Onion. How would I ever know when to laugh without these brave souls?

Hi Australia!

from cedar rapids, iowa..usa

oh yes, that guy is fat.

Hi Mark!

I'm waiting for the Mike Moore film/DVD/plastic squeaky bathtub book/whatever that blames multinational food companies for making Americans fat.

Moore is a lying, sad and sorry sack of shit and his 'documentary" would be more rightly termed a 'mockumentary". My uni film lecturer would have suffered apoplexy had we students ever turned out crap like that BfC.

Oh -- and Moore's fat, too!

Mufti Ebrahim Desai at Ask-an-Imam says:

1. ... one should only eat when necessary and not munch away the whole day. When eating, one should eat to fill the stomach and not the desires.
Because the stomach has a limit, whereas desires are unlimited.

2....one should recite 'Bismillah' before eating. If one does not do so, then it is reported in the Hadith that Shaytaan partakes of that meal (which results in over eating...

3.... Allah Ta'ala stipulates a child's sustenance and then sends it into this world. The day it eats the last morsel which was stipulated for it, the angel of death arrives to extract its soul. Therefore, whenever you eat remind yourself that you are in actual fact eating away your life.

From this I gather:

1. Mikey has been suppin' with Satan;

2. the fat bastard ain't long for this world.

Insha-allah!

All the facts in "Columbine" are true, of course: but many (most?) of its assertions are not facts. A blurb on a book by humorist Dave Barry proclaimed it to be "a 100% fact-free book"; perhaps Moore can borrow that for his own work.

"Well, I'm glad that at least one person here agrees that 'George Bush is dumb is as vaid a statement as 'Michael Moore is fat'"

Hey, dumbass - read my post again. Or do you not know the difference between "debatable" and "obvious"?

Just to be perfectly clear, I believe Bush is intelligent. I simply concede that it is a debatable point, because it is not empirically provable ("intelligence" has no single, solid, testable definition.)