August 07, 2003


Beer fund recipient Jake Ryan is in Bali for today’s sentencing of Amrozi the blow-tard:

Mr Ryan says he is hoping the so-called "smiling bomber" will be found guilty and sentenced to death.

"Personally, in a little way I wouldn't like to see him die as a martyr," he said.

"But then again we don't really need those people around us or among us so if they want to shoot him, so be it," he said.

Here’s what other victims and relatives think. Regarding the Jake beer blast -- it still hasn’t happened. Jake and his football team have been busy playing football, and Jake has also become a public speaker, addressing school groups. Which is difficult to do when you’ve consumed $1,400 worth of alcohol.

There’s no hurry. And how cool is it that schools invite Jake to come talk to the kids?

Posted by Tim Blair at August 7, 2003 12:09 PM

So what do you do with this prick? Shoot him, and he's a martyr. Gaol him for life, and he's a hero to his arsehole buddies in and out of gaol, and given what recently happened in Manila, the prick might just get out.

Fuck it - shoot the prick. On October 12. He's got two months and five days to appeal.

Posted by: steve at August 7, 2003 at 12:45 PM

All this fear about creating a martyr ... can anyone show me a modern revolutionary martyr who's actually helped his or her cause? All Che did was end up on dumbwad teenagers' walls. The original Red Brigade are all dead, and so (mostly) is the Red Brigade. Baader Meinhof? Dead, like their movement.

Besides, not even the creepiest Islamite terrorists are going to want Amrozi's idiot grin leering at them from worshipful posters.

Posted by: tim at August 7, 2003 at 01:15 PM

shoot him between the eyes

Posted by: avid at August 7, 2003 at 01:36 PM

put him in a cell with only maureen dowd columns to read

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at August 7, 2003 at 01:53 PM

It may be a very barbaric solution, but then again, I have tendencies in that direction. I suggest cutting off his arms, legs, genetalia, eyes, and tongue, all humanely of course. Then give the remainder to his family, alive, with no prison term to be served. He won't be a martyr; he's still alive and could live for decades. The 72 virgins may be pretty long in the tooth by the time he gets there. But it might be a very chilling example to the other fuckwads out there who think that such activities are going to get them a quick ticket to heaven.

Yeah, I'm evil. So what?

Posted by: BigRat at August 7, 2003 at 01:59 PM

I was going down the death-of-a-thousand-cuts path but BigRat's idea is so much colder and gives the benefit of a long-term example. Nice.

Posted by: Jake D at August 7, 2003 at 02:14 PM

plus, we could use him as home plate...

Posted by: Mr. Bingley at August 7, 2003 at 02:15 PM

I wonder if amscumzi has caught up with the news that the Kuran has been re-interpreted - it's not 72 virgins, but 72 raisins!

Posted by: avid at August 7, 2003 at 02:25 PM

"Jake has also become a public speaker, addressing school groups. Which is difficult to do when you’ve consumed $1,400 worth of alcohol."

I don't know, Tim. I taught for 11 years. Piece of cake.

Seriously, God bless Jake's family, friends, football club, and Australia. I hope that justice is done and, as you say, I wouldn't worry too much about martyrdom.

Collective guilt over the death penalty is a Western construct and one that doesn't phase our enemies.

Wack the bastard. Pass the savings of keeping him locked up to the taxpayers. Or donate it to the football club's beer kitty.

Posted by: JDB at August 7, 2003 at 03:12 PM

All of the above!!!

Posted by: Gary at August 7, 2003 at 04:20 PM

Shove pork rinds down his throat then deep fry him in bacon grease.

Posted by: Pete at August 7, 2003 at 05:00 PM

Is that a punishment? Even for a Muslim?

It would be like death by cocaine for a Catholic.

Posted by: Tom at August 7, 2003 at 08:14 PM

He should have a live Gila monster sewn into his abdomen.

Posted by: Rick Squane at August 8, 2003 at 12:20 AM

Drop him, naked, in the middle of the deepest jungle they can find. Then forget about him.

Posted by: mojo at August 8, 2003 at 02:23 AM

Where are the renewed condemnations from leaders of the Muslim community ? They knew the verdict and sentence were imminent - where are their strident statements that their faith has been abused, that they bear no ill-will to the Australian community ? That they see this guy as total scum ?

Pity the poor decent people of Bali, mostly Hindu, who will suffer for many years, compounding the sheer evil of last October.

Execution and "martydom" is too good for this wicked man - and his brothers. He should be jailed, not on his home island of Java, but among the Balinese whom he has harmed so deeply. Then let events take their course.

Posted by: JohninLondon at August 8, 2003 at 02:32 PM

Well, JohninLondon, I read in a few articles that "Islamic leaders" stated they believed justice had been done, Amrozi deserves what he gets, and they have no intent to appeal on his behalf. You don't see Protestant leaders appearing on TV, grinning madly and shouting "YEAH, FRY THE FUCKER!" every time some extreme-right-wing WASPy militia freak commits a terrorist act, so I for one am not going to demand a Muslim equivalent. The reaction we're seeing is entirely appropriate, IMHO.

Tom, I believe Islamic values re: pork closely mirror Jewish ones. Ask a Jew to eat pork, see his reaction. Now imagine how Amrosi feels. (Not that I'm condoning or condemning the "bury him in pork, force him to eat the stuff, fuck a pig, do SOMETHING bacon-related" comments).

Posted by: mark at August 8, 2003 at 08:45 PM