Tim Blair

Is anyone else thinking that asking a man who in in a job which relies on there being climate change what he thinks of the future of climate change is just a mite bit silly? 'Oh it's just horrible, horrible... give me money'

I've been burning tractor tyres, venting the gas out of all the old fridges and air-conditioners in my back-yard and feeding my critters beans to create CO2 (we are hillbillies up here, you know) to try and generate some global warming- it's colder than hillary clinton's tits here at the moment.
I would give my left nut for some greenhouse effect action.

""(Except you can’t really see it or anything, so maybe it hasn’t been “found” in the sense that weapons inspectors "find" things. And it probably doesn’t even exist. But hey! WMD!)""

Sounds like your buddies over in Iraq Timbo. Nothing to see, but hey, WMD!!

Assume then if you are wrong and he is right, there will be no objection from you bronwshirts to entire populations from the south pac relocating to oz??

At least we'd always win the rugby...

I'm Victorian, Sphinc. Please refrain from mentioning rug ... er, that game at my site.

Respect for my religion is all I ask.

That's despicable. I always suspected there was a pro-AFL slant to this site. Shame, shAme, shaMe.

Meanwhile while we were worrying about harmless Saddam's so-called WMDs the USA has all the while been secretly building a deadly giant sea urchin! We've been fooled!

Is the ban on mentioning rah-rah due to the fact that the AFL is mainly a bit of a waste of possibly adequate second-rowers?

Habib, am I going to have to nut you over sport as well as politics?? Sorry Tim I agree with you, I'm an aussie rules (St Kilda) man myself (aren't all lefties?).

But the thing with R*gby is, though it is a total monkey sport, we sometimes lose to people like England and New Zealand. The left and right can agree that this is a point of absolute shame- we may as well let their best rams come over and shag our mothers!

Australia is unbeatable at Aussie Rules for the same reason the US are Champions of the Universe at Gridiron- no-one else bloody plays it.
How come every Bledisloe Cup game at the MCG is sold out, as are all the World Cup matches?
Rugby is second only to Wog-ball as a world game.

Oh yeah, Rugby, world sport! Right behind the wall game, polo, brasilian jiu jitsu (which is at least fun) and full contact pilates!

Aussie rules may be parochial, but surveys show that your women would rather bonk our players...

This article is typical of the hysterical pronouncements made about global warming. Just consider *one* claim: "The US mainland was struck by 562 tornados in May, killing 41 people, he said, but the developing world was hit even harder. "

What does this prove? In order that we can deduce *anything* meaningful from the claim, we need to know, at least the following:
* how many tornadoes were there and how many people killed one hundred years ago before anthropogenic global warming supposedly started?
* what proportion of tornadeos are detected now and were detected in the past - could it be that a greater proportion are detected in modern times due to better instruementation and surveillance?
* how do population densities compare now with pre-GW times? If there are 10 times as many people living in tornado prone areas, you would expect more people to be killed by them.
* how does housing compare now and in the past - how many people in tornado areas live in flimsy trailer homes? How many lived in flimsy homes in pre-GW times?

Apparently Australia is also very tornado-prone! This is never news because hardly anyone lives where the tornadoes are prevalent!

Great, can we use it against greenies and their adorers, communardo governments like the mongrels in Spring St, W.A. , Queensland, N.S.W., and Canberra.

Oh, forgot to mention the incestuously bred retards of S.A. and Tas. which lettering, I'm sure, has an equivalent classical expression in either Greeek or Roman meaning incestuously inbred bastards.

In answer to aptly named sphincter who writes "Assume then if you are wrong and he is right, there will be no objection from you bronwshirts to entire populations from the south pac relocating to oz??"

a) morally, why should Australia accept them? Australia has contributed only the minutest amount to greenhouse gas emissions - around 1%. The change in sea level due to Australia is totally immeasurable.

b) only a few South pacific islands are actually prone to flooding from sea level rises. For example the biggest island nation, Fiji, has no worries from sea level rises, because it is mountainous. It would be no more affected by a rise in sea levels than would be Australia.

c) Assuming we did accept all the inhabitants of every Pacific island drastically affected by sea level rises of say 0.5 metre, it would amount to a few tens of thousands - a few months normal migrant intake. I have no problem with this - what is your problem? Don't like darkies?

Tom, one does not even entertain sporting a tan.I'm lilly white and proud of it.

Tom, you are so thick, go back and read what i said again. I'm happy to have them all, then again I have no phobia about immigrants full stop. Given the likes of you guys running around, they could only improve the gene pool.

And yes we would have a moral obligation to people who no longer had islands to live on- because they are human beings and we have plenty of land.

But you wouldn't understand moral obligation if it was defined with a lazer on the inside of your drooping docile eyelids.

"And yes we would have a moral obligation to people who no longer had islands to live on- because they are human beings and we have plenty of land. "

Interesting. considering the 'plenty of land' we have left is basically the australian desert, should we put them there?

Are not environmental groups saying that australia could only support a population of 20 million (a figure ive heard tossed around in the news)? You cant have it both ways.

"Are not environmental groups saying that australia could only support a population of 20 million (a figure ive heard tossed around in the news)? You cant have it both ways."

You? Meaning me? Why am I them? I'm not. This country can hold 50 million, according to the most comprehensive report (ie the CSIRO one) released.

That's about the population of several European countries which are minute compared to us. Surely you don't all hum the same tune on this; after all, more migrants makes for good economics, and the more desperate they are the harder they will work to achieve.

As you've correctly identified this is not a simple left-right split issue.

I can't believe I'm actually writing this Sphincter, but I agree with you. No one in their right mind can say Australia is overpopulated. We need a lot more people, including a lot more refugees.